GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST

[gigantes]

Foof, I'm STILL not sure what to think about Giannis undercutting Kyrie like that.

In terms of how the game is played, I guess it's... just how things go?

At the same time, looking closely at the replay-- here's a HUGE, lengthy dude sneakily taking away every possible place for a little guy up in the air to safely land. Replay looks okay at first, but looks a little more evil every time I look at it. Just more and more nasty. And yes, I know that all bets are off around the basket. Dagit...

But man... I've been a huge Giannis fan ever since Kidd found a way to unleash the beast. Unfortunately, he seems to have stopped growing at a certain point, and almost seems to be stagnating these days. So I wish him well and all, but I'm thrilled for Jokic's MVP win, and I look forward to future non-Giannis MVP winners, in future.

[therealbig3]

Nothing about Giannis has ever suggested that he’s a dirty player that intentionally does stuff to injure people, I do think he got overly focused on the rebound but made a reckless play. Should have been a flagrant, but it wasn’t intentional. I don’t even blame Giannis, I blame the officials for not calling it.

[CalamityX12]

Again, the fact that Giannis walked off of that floor without a scratch is infuriating.

We're a reflection of our coach...

Supporting players too timid to do anything without big 3 approval. They don't have the balls to fight back for respect

Y’all are advocating for injuring opposing players, which is some bush league ****. GTFO with that nonsense.

You get respect by going out there and winning the damn game, not with cheap shots.

No one said anything about injuring. Who said that?

There's playing physical, hard n not being pushed overs vs bucks and there's taking cheap shots with malicious intent to injure...

Where did we advocate cheap shots or injuries?

[therealbig3]

We're a reflection of our coach...

Supporting players too timid to do anything without big 3 approval. They don't have the balls to fight back for respect

Y’all are advocating for injuring opposing players, which is some bush league ****. GTFO with that nonsense.

You get respect by going out there and winning the damn game, not with cheap shots.

No one said anything about injuring. Who said that?

There's playing physical, hard n not being pushed overs vs bucks and there's taking cheap shots with malicious intent to injure...

Where did we advocate cheap shots or injuries?

I hope Tucker is **** ing hurt. Good screen Blake!!!

Really upset that dirty Giannis play took Kyrie out the game. F that.

Someone needs to catch a Flagrant 2. Go right for the head.

Good shot Joe. Bust his eye open

Good shot Joe. Bust his eye open

Best shot he made

I just went back and watched the play again. Giannis comes in and puts his foot under Irving. I get it Giannis was coming in for the rebound. But outside the pain this is a flagrant foul

Again, the fact that Giannis walked off of that floor without a scratch is infuriating.

Then wtf is this nonsense? Consistently advocating for and praising hurting other players, and you agreed with it multiple times.

THAT is soft as **** to me. That's what weak people do when they can't handle adversity. It's just low. You can be physical without being dirty.

[Pablo Escobar]

Mil has been playing super physical with KD and Kyrie hasn't been playing as well. He's the only one with the ability to score at will off the dribble but Kd is being the point forward for some odd reason. He isn't great at being a playmaker for others even though he has improved a ton. And with Kyrie on crutches now it's all up to the slim reaper to carry the load.

[andrewww]

Y’all are advocating for injuring opposing players, which is some bush league ****. GTFO with that nonsense.

You get respect by going out there and winning the damn game, not with cheap shots.

No one said anything about injuring. Who said that?

There's playing physical, hard n not being pushed overs vs bucks and there's taking cheap shots with malicious intent to injure...

Where did we advocate cheap shots or injuries?

I hope Tucker is **** ing hurt. Good screen Blake!!!

Really upset that dirty Giannis play took Kyrie out the game. F that.

Someone needs to catch a Flagrant 2. Go right for the head.

Good shot Joe. Bust his eye open

Good shot Joe. Bust his eye open

Best shot he made

I just went back and watched the play again. Giannis comes in and puts his foot under Irving. I get it Giannis was coming in for the rebound. But outside the pain this is a flagrant foul

Again, the fact that Giannis walked off of that floor without a scratch is infuriating.

Then wtf is this nonsense? Consistently advocating for and praising hurting other players, and you agreed with it multiple times.

THAT is soft as **** to me. That's what weak people do when they can't handle adversity. It's just low. You can be physical without being dirty.

I believe you are misconstruing “laying the lumber” with “intentionally injuring” someone.

I loved the hard but legal screen set by Joe. I hope Tucker felt that. The Bucks are being allowed to foul and generally play as physical as they want which you could argue allowed Giannis to be as reckless as he was when he undercut Kyrie.

Its only right good hard physical play is returned in kind. And if someone gets injured thats too bad. Isnt that what everyone is saying now against the Nets? Its fair game.

And if by chance the Bucks pick up some knocks in the process I wont shed a tear either. At least no one on the Nets is being given leeway to commit a foul on every play like Tucker is.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm really upset, but I would rather lose to injuries than be the Clippers of last year.

We know we are the best team.

If we lose we spend the off season getting healthy. Get a full training camp and season to develop our chemistry.

Improve some of our role players.

And were easily the favorites next season. There will be a Championship parade in Brooklyn one day. I truly believe it.

[CalamityX12]

Y’all are advocating for injuring opposing players, which is some bush league ****. GTFO with that nonsense.

You get respect by going out there and winning the damn game, not with cheap shots.

No one said anything about injuring. Who said that?

There's playing physical, hard n not being pushed overs vs bucks and there's taking cheap shots with malicious intent to injure...

Where did we advocate cheap shots or injuries?

I hope Tucker is **** ing hurt. Good screen Blake!!!

Really upset that dirty Giannis play took Kyrie out the game. F that.

Someone needs to catch a Flagrant 2. Go right for the head.

Good shot Joe. Bust his eye open

Good shot Joe. Bust his eye open

Best shot he made

I just went back and watched the play again. Giannis comes in and puts his foot under Irving. I get it Giannis was coming in for the rebound. But outside the pain this is a flagrant foul

Again, the fact that Giannis walked off of that floor without a scratch is infuriating.

Then wtf is this nonsense? Consistently advocating for and praising hurting other players, and you agreed with it multiple times.

THAT is soft as **** to me. That's what weak people do when they can't handle adversity. It's just low. You can be physical without being dirty.

My comment is obviously sarcasm. Joe couldn't hit a damn bucket all weekend but he manages to scratch a bucks player hence sarcastic "best shot he made"...

MDB does not want injury involved, he spoke from emotional outrage and its understandable. I can't speak for him but I know/feel he would say the same thing. Theres no real threat wish from anyone in heated mode. Maybe I'm wrong for his comments but I'll let him clear that up.

The message I want to project is we need to start bullying back, we are soft and don't stand up after someone pushes us down. It's a reflection on coach to our players. It's no crime in pushing back and playing physical.

[XtremeDunkz]

For those who are complaining, without James and now Kyrie going down too, WTF did you expect?

The Bucks are the luckiest MF'ers in the world, cause they would have gotten SWEPT if not for Nets injuries.

Now they are going to win the series, FOR SURE, but it might be the hollowest win in NBA playoffs history.

Right behind the sixers beating the Bulls after Rose tore his knee up.

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[BKlutch]

Giannis took out Krispy Porzingis, who never regained the form he had before Giannis. Brooklyn is the best that money could buy, and it bad to see them out of action because of injuries. Maybe next year they will show why there are worth the cost in $$ and players.

Also don't forget, Caris Levert owes his life to having been traded when he was (MRI found his cancer — one that is almost never cured when it finally becomes symptomatic). That is not an inconsiderable plus to all of this.

[0BobLobLaw0]

As a Bucks fans perspective....watch Giannis' eyes....it's on the ball the entire time. Outside of body checking Mike Dunleavy Jr who fully deserved it, he has never done anything dirty.

If he looked down to see where kyrie might land...I'd feel differently, but he was just trying to get into good position and unfortunately it rolled Kyries ankle.

[Prokorov]

All this Nash bitching really needs to stop. We've suffered from bad luck first and foremost. The moment Kyrie went down with that injury, this game was over, it's really that simple. If Harden doesn't injury his hamstring again 43 seconds into game 1, this would have been the last game of the series. Bucks have been incredibly lucky to benefit from our injuries, and that's really what it comes down to.

If we don't get Harden back healthy by game 5 (key word: healthy), then we're screwed because Kyrie is likely out for the remainder of this series. This is why you cannot give up opportunities in the playoffs, and why the game 3 loss stings even more now because we could have killed this series off.

Lets not fool ourselves, before Kyrie went down everything was going downhill already , we didn’t run one solid possession previous 6 or 7 trips before then , why ?

Now we're doing revisionist stuff again. Go back and see what the posters here said during that stretch. We were blaming the refs for taking away our momentum. Middleton got a 4 pt play off a soft foul (which later wasn't given to KD). Nets getting called for more soft fouls that resulted in turnovers. And besides that, it is a game of runs. Kyrie scored on the play where he got hurt, and I believe it was a 1-2 possession deficit at the time.

Nash is complete dog ****.

IF he doesnt have 2 hall of famers on the floor at all times we get destroyed. He sucks. ive pointed it out all year. Kyrie is down... great. maybe we lose, but he did nothing to give us a chance. he just let KD go 1 on 5 for 3 quarters and hope for the best.

Put brook lopez in a pick and role. put some of your scrappy energy guys in to try and muck up the game. hack-a-giannis and make them score from the FT line.

Run some action to get PJ off durant
-use durant as a screen to force a switch or an advantage
-set staggered double screen
-put in Deandre and give alob threat if they try and fight through the screen on durant.

he did nohitng. like literally nothing. he played the KD/harris/green/griffin/james lineup into the ground and watched it burn

even if you say this game is a loss the second Kyrie went down that give you 3 quarters to experiment and find some things that will work you can carry into game 5.

[Prokorov]

Not sure how we keep this series competitive after this. Harden could go down at anytime even if he comes back. Kyrie is most likely out for the playoffs. Refs arent giving us any calls.

Don't really see what adjustments the coaches can make. We've defended well in these 2 losses. We just can't score. I don't see how that changes when our PGs are Mike James and Tyler Johnson. Maybe it's time to bring DJ in since he's a lob threat.

If you cant find ways to score with kevin durant surrounded by 4 shooters you should quit your job and find another sport.

how about make ANY adjustment. lets start there

[DarkXaero]

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Watching the slow mo replay angle behind the basket shows how bad Giannis was positioning was there. We're only saying it's not intentional because Giannis doesn't have a reputation of being a dirty player. If it was a Morris twin or Zaza, it'd be an entirely different story.

[Prokorov]

Lets not fool ourselves, before Kyrie went down everything was going downhill already , we didn’t run one solid possession previous 6 or 7 trips before then , why ?

Now we're doing revisionist stuff again. Go back and see what the posters here said during that stretch. We were blaming the refs for taking away our momentum. Middleton got a 4 pt play off a soft foul (which later wasn't given to KD). Nets getting called for more soft fouls that resulted in turnovers. And besides that, it is a game of runs. Kyrie scored on the play where he got hurt, and I believe it was a 1-2 possession deficit at the time.

The refs made three straight BS calls that wiped out the Nets lead while allowing the Bucks to get away with murder on defense, including a no call on Giannis when he took Kyrie's leg out from under him. We never recovered.

Nash & staff have watched 4 games of this series with no fouls called, a ton of physicality, multiple injuries, and our stars constantly being knocked to the floor.

0 technicals. 0 getting in the officials face. 0 calling them out in between games

the officiating wont change like that. grow a spine and defend your players. how many times have we seen phil jackson or pop between games evicerate the officials and next game they get the calls?

[Prokorov]

All this Nash bitching really needs to stop. We've suffered from bad luck first and foremost. The moment Kyrie went down with that injury, this game was over, it's really that simple. If Harden doesn't injure his hamstring again 43 seconds into game 1, this would have been the last game of the series. Bucks have been incredibly lucky to benefit from our injuries, and that's really what it comes down to.

If we don't get Harden back healthy by game 5 (key word: healthy), then we're screwed because Kyrie is likely out for the remainder of this series. This is why you cannot give up opportunities in the playoffs, and why the game 3 loss stings even more now because we could have killed this series off.

I agree about everything but is inevitably losing the series.

I’m still thoroughly unimpressed by Giannis and the rest of the team. They were at home and never looked comfortable outside of Kyrie going down and us not adjusting.

If our bench players don’t put themselves under too much pressure in Game 5, I fully expect us to roll. For some reason, the next game isn’t until Thursday lol.

The Brooklyn crowd will be amped. I expect the coaching staff to make the adjustments in Game 5 that they frankly should’ve made during these two road games and I expect the role players to light it up, regardless of whether Kyrie is playing.

If Harden is back and plays appropriately measured (as in not passive and deferring but also not too ISO happy), we should beat them comfortably.

Maybe I’m irrationally confident but I don’t “fear the deer” at all.

I hope Kyrie’s sprain is minor and that 3 days of RICE will be enough time for him.

Still gotta believe….let’s go Nets!

We havent made adjustments all year.

Nash had 3 quarters to make adjustments, and didnt. why would he do it for game 5? There was literally no stakes when Kyrie went down. they had 3 quarters to play with and did nothing. he wont adjust because he is not capable of it.

This series is over, and it was over when nash decided to run bruce brown to end game 3.

[DarkXaero]

Lets not fool ourselves, before Kyrie went down everything was going downhill already , we didn’t run one solid possession previous 6 or 7 trips before then , why ?

Now we're doing revisionist stuff again. Go back and see what the posters here said during that stretch. We were blaming the refs for taking away our momentum. Middleton got a 4 pt play off a soft foul (which later wasn't given to KD). Nets getting called for more soft fouls that resulted in turnovers. And besides that, it is a game of runs. Kyrie scored on the play where he got hurt, and I believe it was a 1-2 possession deficit at the time.

Nash is complete dog ****.

IF he doesnt have 2 hall of famers on the floor at all times we get destroyed. He sucks. ive pointed it out all year. Kyrie is down... great. maybe we lose, but he did nothing to give us a chance. he just let KD go 1 on 5 for 3 quarters and hope for the best.

Put brook lopez in a pick and role. put some of your scrappy energy guys in to try and muck up the game. hack-a-giannis and make them score from the FT line.

Run some action to get PJ off durant
-use durant as a screen to force a switch or an advantage
-set staggered double screen
-put in Deandre and give alob threat if they try and fight through the screen on durant.

he did nohitng. like literally nothing. he played the KD/harris/green/griffin/james lineup into the ground and watched it burn

even if you say this game is a loss the second Kyrie went down that give you 3 quarters to experiment and find some things that will work you can carry into game 5.

I don't know what you watched but we did try to free KD using screens. It didn't work because Bucks have been playing incredibly physical defense on him, staying on KD at all times. Bucks were letting anyone but KD beat them, especially in the 2nd half. He was getting doubled in his spots. Also, it's hard for that lineup to work because the lineup has never been used. That aspect cannot be underestimated.

Bitching about Nash after game 4 is completely and utterly pointless. We were never going to win tonight after Kyrie went down. The players on the court around KD can function well in spurts or in roles around multiple stars but they are not ready or capable of contributing to a win in that situation. Stop being overemotional and get past your hatred. You weren't giving the due credit when it was deserved, but now you're here to bitch about Nash when we were in an impossible situation to win.

[Prokorov]

Cuz we're soft AF.

Don't want to get physically...

No dirt on our hands approach.

Free throw discrepancy throughout series is first sign.

2nd is not playing DJ to bang around.

If this was streetball where we either don’t call anything or we call our own fouls, things would be different. But the refs have that responsibility and have been doing a piss poor job at officiating.

You can’t go to the free throw line if the refs don’t put you there.

while our coach says nothing to defend them or put pressure on them to call some fouls.
The FT disparity is glaring and today was just egregious. The refs let the Bucks hammer our guys and only til their malfeasance caused Irving to get hurt did they start to actually call a clean game

[Prokorov]

We need Harden back badly. Where KD and the role players struggle to score points, Harden and those same role players can drop a ton of points because Harden is a ceiling lifter that gets guys shots. Durant is an elite scorer, but play making is not his forte.

I don't know. We'll see what happens. I still think we can win at home but it's bleak.

Not only can we not beat them at home. im not sure we can even keep it close. KD can score 45 with us still losing by 20+

We have few playmakers, and nash is not capable of making adjustments

[Prokorov]

I sprained my ankle twice playing tennis , both times took me at least 5-6 weeks to get back on the court , considering Kyrie is much better athlete than myself i just dont see it how he plays in three days , i just dont

Every sprained ankle is different.

I've never had one that kept me out for one full week, let alone multiple weeks. I think I've been out out a max of 5 days playing basketball and that's primarily because I kept playing on it after it happened because I didn't want to stop playing.

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EvO, what you're describing are low ankle sprains. They heal quickly, a week at the most.

However everything about Kyrie's, the way it looked and the way it sounds (walking boot and crutches) sounds like a high ankle sprain, and those are debilitating for at least 4 to 6 weeks.

Believe me, nobody needs crutches much less crutches and a walking boot for a low ankle sprain.

Frankly I can run and keep playing on a low ankle sprain if I want too, but better to let it heal for a week.

I was in a soft cast and missed 2 months with a high ankle sprain. when your ankle turns out like that, its worst case. turning in isnt so bad. the low ones you can sometimes even play through