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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#421 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:14 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm really upset, but I would rather lose to injuries than be the Clippers of last year.

We know we are the best team.

If we lose we spend the off season getting healthy. Get a full training camp and season to develop our chemistry.

Improve some of our role players.

And were easily the favorites next season. There will be a Championship parade in Brooklyn one day. I truly believe it.


We were losing this series without injuries. we were never going to be a good team in 7 games with a horrible coach. we saw in game three, anything thats not a blowout, nash will coach to a loss
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#422 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:20 am

DarkXaero wrote:I don't know what you watched but we did try to free KD using screens. It didn't work because Bucks have been playing incredibly physical defense on him, staying on KD at all times.


We used single screens above the FT line. which are the easiest to fight through or go over on with help below. We ran no double staggered screens. and we only used KD as a screener 1 time, and it forced a switch of lopez on to him.

Bucks were letting anyone but KD beat them, especially in the 2nd half. He was getting doubled in his spots. Also, it's hard for that lineup to work because the lineup has never been used. That aspect cannot be underestimated.


You welcome double teams when you post him on the baseline. your getting an extra defender in the basline and daring KD to make the cross court pass.

Bitching about Nash after game 4 is completely and utterly pointless. We were never going to win tonight after Kyrie went down.


Making it all about the win just shows a lack of understanding. This is a 7 game series. even if you chalked this up for a loss when Kyrie went down, that is 3 quarters to throw looks and adjustments and lineups out to see what works so you have some ammo to take in to game 5. we did nothig.
The players on the court around KD can function well in spurts or in roles around multiple stars but they are not ready or capable of contributing to a win in that situation. Stop being overemotional and get past your hatred. You weren't giving the due credit when it was deserved, but now you're here to bitch about Nash when we were in an impossible situation to win.


Credit was never desrved of nash. his coaching was god awful in our wins. and i pointed it out in our wins. with video and xs and os all season long. we won inspite of him. all year.

He cost us game 3 and he did nothing to help us compete in game for or help us win game 5... thats right, game 5. he did nothing to see what may work with this team san kyrie. he just ran the same sets that werent working and the same lineups.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#423 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:22 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm really upset, but I would rather lose to injuries than be the Clippers of last year.

We know we are the best team.

If we lose we spend the off season getting healthy. Get a full training camp and season to develop our chemistry.

Improve some of our role players.

And were easily the favorites next season. There will be a Championship parade in Brooklyn one day. I truly believe it.


We were losing this series without injuries. we were never going to be a good team in 7 games with a horrible coach. we saw in game three, anything thats not a blowout, nash will coach to a loss


Youre completely delusional.

We would destroy this team with Kyrie and Harden. 5 games max.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#424 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:25 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm really upset, but I would rather lose to injuries than be the Clippers of last year.

We know we are the best team.

If we lose we spend the off season getting healthy. Get a full training camp and season to develop our chemistry.

Improve some of our role players.

And were easily the favorites next season. There will be a Championship parade in Brooklyn one day. I truly believe it.


We were losing this series without injuries. we were never going to be a good team in 7 games with a horrible coach. we saw in game three, anything thats not a blowout, nash will coach to a loss


Youre completely delusional.

We would destroy this team with Kyrie and Harden. 5 games max.


no chance. not with nash coaching.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#425 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:28 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
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We were losing this series without injuries. we were never going to be a good team in 7 games with a horrible coach. we saw in game three, anything thats not a blowout, nash will coach to a loss


Youre completely delusional.

We would destroy this team with Kyrie and Harden. 5 games max.


no chance. not with nash coaching.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#426 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:58 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Another awful pass by Green.


I said when he got hurt... blessing in disguise cause if healthy nash was playing him like 30+ minutes, mostly at center, and claxton will be glued to the bench
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#427 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:09 am

MrDollarBills wrote:We need an actual goon on our roster. There's no way we shouldn't be hammering these **** ers in the paint with the way Durant is getting knocked around and how Giannis injured Kyrie. I'm so pissed right now, I hope Blake starts to get in that mode.


This is nonsense.

Giannis play on Kyrie wasnt dirty. you want to say its a flagrant the way the league is so strict on policing players getting under a players feet? sure. Giannis is coming in, eyes on the room, clearly looking to get into position for a rebound. the dude is super long. he didnt like purposefully slide under him. at WORST, it is an irresponsible play by Giannis, even thats a stretch.

Also, the idea we should be "hammering" guys is just silly. We arent some big physical team. no need to show frustration and get outside of what we need to do to still have a prayer of a chance.

It is pretty simple. Nash needs to open his mouth every time KD is knocked to the floor. If it takes 1-2 technical so be it. And Nash needs to be getting on these officials in between games, which he finally did a bit after tonights game... which is like 3 games later then it needed to come.

Nothing tucker is doing is dirty. he is playing hard and being aggressive. and he has been whistled for 15 fouls in 4 games... so its not like he hasnt taken some whistles for it. he has gotten away with alot, but they have called the entire series that way... and that wont change with our staff saying nothing.

We have had 3 games and 11 days to adjust. we havent... it was just rely on KD/Kyrie to be great and were good. well, thats out the window now.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#428 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:12 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Joe Harris sucks again. Can you believe we play him 20 million to suck in the playoffs?


Role players suck on the road in the playoffs. same for the bucks games 1/2. this was expected.
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Post#429 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:14 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:KD is somehow even worse than last game. There is no defending this. Hes supposed to be one of the greatest scorers of all time.


Asking him to go 1 on 5 with 0 coaching adjustments and the bucks focusing on him is an impossible task.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#430 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:15 am

DarkXaero wrote:How are you guys managing to criticize the rotation/coaching here? We have two of our 3 stars out and the available star has been one of the worst players on the floor. What do you want to see out there? Nash to suit up himself?


I want to see him make an adjustment. instead of just going mid baseline post to KD every time down the floor.
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Post#431 » by spre8well » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:24 am

Sharcm1 wrote:I just went back and watched the play again. Giannis comes in and puts his foot under Irving. I get it Giannis was coming in for the rebound. But outside the pain this is a flagrant foul

It was pretty obvious he knew what he was doing. Net fans need to call this dirty pos out every time he touch the ball next game.
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Post#432 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:30 am

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Sharcm1 wrote:I just went back and watched the play again. Giannis comes in and puts his foot under Irving. I get it Giannis was coming in for the rebound. But outside the pain this is a flagrant foul

It was pretty obvious he knew what he was doing. Net fans need to call this dirty pos out every time he touch the ball next game.


you have no idea what you are talking about. take a hike, idiot.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#433 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:42 am

biggest reason we lost this game:

17 turnovers.

We were under 10 the other 3 games. All season, when we lost, it was because of turnovers and to a lesser extend second chance points. thats the biggest issue with Kyrie going down. he was outstanding handling the ball without turning it over. KD is kind of a turnover machine when he is on the ball and being a playmaker... he especially turns it over passing out of the post on double teams.

Nets will need to run offense through james/tyler johnson/chiozza and keep KD off ball unles sits transition
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#434 » by spre8well » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:56 am

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Sharcm1 wrote:I just went back and watched the play again. Giannis comes in and puts his foot under Irving. I get it Giannis was coming in for the rebound. But outside the pain this is a flagrant foul

It was pretty obvious he knew what he was doing. Net fans need to call this dirty pos out every time he touch the ball next game.


you have no idea what you are talking about. take a hike, idiot.

nah you’re the idiot if you think that wasn’t intentional.
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Post#435 » by Jay555 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:56 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:We need an actual goon on our roster. There's no way we shouldn't be hammering these **** ers in the paint with the way Durant is getting knocked around and how Giannis injured Kyrie. I'm so pissed right now, I hope Blake starts to get in that mode.


This is nonsense.

Giannis play on Kyrie wasnt dirty. you want to say its a flagrant the way the league is so strict on policing players getting under a players feet? sure. Giannis is coming in, eyes on the room, clearly looking to get into position for a rebound. the dude is super long. he didnt like purposefully slide under him. at WORST, it is an irresponsible play by Giannis, even thats a stretch.

Also, the idea we should be "hammering" guys is just silly. We arent some big physical team. no need to show frustration and get outside of what we need to do to still have a prayer of a chance.

It is pretty simple. Nash needs to open his mouth every time KD is knocked to the floor. If it takes 1-2 technical so be it. And Nash needs to be getting on these officials in between games, which he finally did a bit after tonights game... which is like 3 games later then it needed to come.

Nothing tucker is doing is dirty. he is playing hard and being aggressive. and he has been whistled for 15 fouls in 4 games... so its not like he hasnt taken some whistles for it. he has gotten away with alot, but they have called the entire series that way... and that wont change with our staff saying nothing.

We have had 3 games and 11 days to adjust. we havent... it was just rely on KD/Kyrie to be great and were good. well, thats out the window now.


Dude, you do realise none of our role players are good enough to do anything on their own? It all came down to the shot making ability of our role players especially in G3 when Joe missed a wide open mid range which would have sealed the deal. Nash can come up with all the X's and O's but if they can not make shots, what are you supoosed to do?

And donot tell me Giannis was not dirty on that play. That was on purpose and everyone who plays basketball knows it. It's not like he has not done this before! He did a few times to other players including AD when they played the Lakers.

Now on the refs. It's ok for PJ to be agreessive but it's not ok to be inconsistent. Bucks were murdering KD and they were allowing it. It's only when things got out of control they started blowing the whistles in our favour in the sec half, by the time, Kyrie was injuried and we were done. Did you see those phantom calls when we were up 13 at one point? They were clearly Adam Sliver's hit man to make sure this is going 2-2. What seems to be the most entertaining/competitive series need to be as great as advertsied!

So there is nothing much you can do. This was always going 7. Tho they did not expect Kyrie to be hurt which means it will now lose the suspense and will be wrapped up quickly.

We are the best team and we are just unlucky it ended this way. If Harden is healthy, we still have a shot but I doubt he is fully.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#436 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:02 am

spre8well wrote:
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spre8well wrote:It was pretty obvious he knew what he was doing. Net fans need to call this dirty pos out every time he touch the ball next game.


you have no idea what you are talking about. take a hike, idiot.

nah you’re the idiot if you think that wasn’t intentional.


We dont need D-bag ahole trolls like you here. go post that stuff on the GB with the rest of the 13 years old you piece of human filth.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#437 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:04 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:We need an actual goon on our roster. There's no way we shouldn't be hammering these **** ers in the paint with the way Durant is getting knocked around and how Giannis injured Kyrie. I'm so pissed right now, I hope Blake starts to get in that mode.


This is nonsense.

Giannis play on Kyrie wasnt dirty. you want to say its a flagrant the way the league is so strict on policing players getting under a players feet? sure. Giannis is coming in, eyes on the room, clearly looking to get into position for a rebound. the dude is super long. he didnt like purposefully slide under him. at WORST, it is an irresponsible play by Giannis, even thats a stretch.

Also, the idea we should be "hammering" guys is just silly. We arent some big physical team. no need to show frustration and get outside of what we need to do to still have a prayer of a chance.

It is pretty simple. Nash needs to open his mouth every time KD is knocked to the floor. If it takes 1-2 technical so be it. And Nash needs to be getting on these officials in between games, which he finally did a bit after tonights game... which is like 3 games later then it needed to come.

Nothing tucker is doing is dirty. he is playing hard and being aggressive. and he has been whistled for 15 fouls in 4 games... so its not like he hasnt taken some whistles for it. he has gotten away with alot, but they have called the entire series that way... and that wont change with our staff saying nothing.

We have had 3 games and 11 days to adjust. we havent... it was just rely on KD/Kyrie to be great and were good. well, thats out the window now.


Dude, you do realise none of our role players are good enough to do anything on their own? It all came down to the shot making ability of our role players especially in G3 when Joe missed a wide open mid range which would have sealed the deal. Nash can come up with all the X's and O's but if they can not make shots, what are you supoosed to do?

And donot tell me Giannis was not dirty on that play. That was on purpose and everyone who plays basketball knows it. It's not like he has not done this before! He did a few times to other players including AD when they played the Lakers.

Now on the refs. It's ok for PJ to be agreessive but it's not ok to be inconsistent. Bucks were murdering KD and they were allowing it. It's only when things got out of control they started blowing the whistles in our favour in the sec half, by the time, Kyrie was injuried and we were done. Did you see those phantom calls when we were up 13 at one point? They were clearly Adam Sliver's hit man to make sure this is going 2-2. What seems to be the most entertaining/competitive series need to be as great as advertsied!

So there is nothing much you can do. This was always going 7. Tho they did not expect Kyrie to be hurt which means it will now lose the suspense and will be wrapped up quickly.

We are the best team and we are just unlucky it ended this way. If Harden is healthy, we still have a shot but I doubt he is fully.


its alot easier for shots to fall when you are put in a situaiton where its a more favorable shot.

a good coach and we'd be up 3-1, or even swept them.. even with the injuries
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#438 » by Jay555 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:11 am

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This is nonsense.

Giannis play on Kyrie wasnt dirty. you want to say its a flagrant the way the league is so strict on policing players getting under a players feet? sure. Giannis is coming in, eyes on the room, clearly looking to get into position for a rebound. the dude is super long. he didnt like purposefully slide under him. at WORST, it is an irresponsible play by Giannis, even thats a stretch.

Also, the idea we should be "hammering" guys is just silly. We arent some big physical team. no need to show frustration and get outside of what we need to do to still have a prayer of a chance.

It is pretty simple. Nash needs to open his mouth every time KD is knocked to the floor. If it takes 1-2 technical so be it. And Nash needs to be getting on these officials in between games, which he finally did a bit after tonights game... which is like 3 games later then it needed to come.

Nothing tucker is doing is dirty. he is playing hard and being aggressive. and he has been whistled for 15 fouls in 4 games... so its not like he hasnt taken some whistles for it. he has gotten away with alot, but they have called the entire series that way... and that wont change with our staff saying nothing.

We have had 3 games and 11 days to adjust. we havent... it was just rely on KD/Kyrie to be great and were good. well, thats out the window now.


Dude, you do realise none of our role players are good enough to do anything on their own? It all came down to the shot making ability of our role players especially in G3 when Joe missed a wide open mid range which would have sealed the deal. Nash can come up with all the X's and O's but if they can not make shots, what are you supoosed to do?

And donot tell me Giannis was not dirty on that play. That was on purpose and everyone who plays basketball knows it. It's not like he has not done this before! He did a few times to other players including AD when they played the Lakers.

Now on the refs. It's ok for PJ to be agreessive but it's not ok to be inconsistent. Bucks were murdering KD and they were allowing it. It's only when things got out of control they started blowing the whistles in our favour in the sec half, by the time, Kyrie was injuried and we were done. Did you see those phantom calls when we were up 13 at one point? They were clearly Adam Sliver's hit man to make sure this is going 2-2. What seems to be the most entertaining/competitive series need to be as great as advertsied!

So there is nothing much you can do. This was always going 7. Tho they did not expect Kyrie to be hurt which means it will now lose the suspense and will be wrapped up quickly.

We are the best team and we are just unlucky it ended this way. If Harden is healthy, we still have a shot but I doubt he is fully.


its alot easier for shots to fall when you are put in a situaiton where its a more favorable shot.

a good coach and we'd be up 3-1, or even swept them.. even with the injuries


I tend to agree we may be up 3-1 without injuries if we had a good coach. But I am still leaning the 2-2 as that's what the league wanted.

With injuries, you are pure dreaming. You can get Pop to coach this team and we'd still lose without Harden and Kyrie. We can get hot for a game or two but that's it.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#439 » by MGrand15 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:18 am

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MGrand15 wrote:Not sure how we keep this series competitive after this. Harden could go down at anytime even if he comes back. Kyrie is most likely out for the playoffs. Refs arent giving us any calls.

Don't really see what adjustments the coaches can make. We've defended well in these 2 losses. We just can't score. I don't see how that changes when our PGs are Mike James and Tyler Johnson. Maybe it's time to bring DJ in since he's a lob threat.


If you cant find ways to score with kevin durant surrounded by 4 shooters you should quit your job and find another sport.

how about make ANY adjustment. lets start there


Mike D'Antoni - best offensive coach of all time - is running the offense. We made adjustments. None of them worked because:

1. Milwaukee was mugging KD all over the floor. Post ups, stagger screens, PNRs, whatever. They were fouling him every time down. Refs didn't call anything until we were down 20. That threw our only scorer and playmaker completely out of rhythm. We put him in different spots. We even used him as the screener for PNRs.

2. Our shooters weren't hitting shots.

I would argue that we should've played Shamet + Claxton more but whatever. If you would've told me that by G4 the Bucks wouldn't score more than 107 for the series, I would've signed up for that in a heartbeat. Offense hasn't been a problem all year.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Bucks Game 4 - 06/13/21 3pm EST 

Post#440 » by Prokorov » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:28 am

MGrand15 wrote:
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MGrand15 wrote:Not sure how we keep this series competitive after this. Harden could go down at anytime even if he comes back. Kyrie is most likely out for the playoffs. Refs arent giving us any calls.

Don't really see what adjustments the coaches can make. We've defended well in these 2 losses. We just can't score. I don't see how that changes when our PGs are Mike James and Tyler Johnson. Maybe it's time to bring DJ in since he's a lob threat.


If you cant find ways to score with kevin durant surrounded by 4 shooters you should quit your job and find another sport.

how about make ANY adjustment. lets start there


Mike D'Antoni - best offensive coach of all time - is running the offense. We made adjustments. None of them worked because:

1. Milwaukee was mugging KD all over the floor. Post ups, stagger screens, PNRs, whatever. They were fouling him every time down. Refs didn't call anything until we were down 20. That threw our only scorer and playmaker completely out of rhythm. We put him in different spots. We even used him as the screener for PNRs.

2. Our shooters weren't hitting shots.

I would argue that we should've played Shamet + Claxton more but whatever. If you would've told me that by G4 the Bucks wouldn't score more than 107 for the series, I would've signed up for that in a heartbeat. Offense hasn't been a problem all year.


we did nothing to free durant and refused to run any offense through anyone else. no putting lopez in pick and roll or blake in the post. even for just 1 posession.

it was all kd post ups or running him of a 1 screen pin down.

nash has no clue

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