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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#441 » by humanrefutation » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:03 am

You didn't have to double KD. Just put your DPOY on him instead of having him sit in a corner for half the game.

I'm not saying that Giannis would have stopped KD. Tucker is an excellent defender and has played quality defense against him, including at some points today. KD was on one. He literally had flames coming from his shots. Sometimes you can't stop him.

But Giannis's length would have bothered every single shot in a way Tucker and Middleton can't. Maybe KD still has a monster game, but instead of 49 points on 70% shooting, he only scores 42 on 60% shooting. That's the difference in the game. Right there.
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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#442 » by blazza18 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:12 am

greekbuck34 wrote:Bud's defense is built just to do that. Giannis to collapse in the paint and help Brook Lopez. Everytime he does that someone gets an open look. That's why he shouldn't guard a lethal 3p shooter like Harris or Green. He can't help like that without major risk. You can only solve this by getting Brook Lopez out and going SMALL but Bud has to watch us getting murdered for 1 quarter---> 2 quarters-------> 2 games -> 3 series-----> 3 seasons to make a adjustment.

If you watched this game and you think that Giannis is not much of a competitor you are a bigger fool than I thought.

Giannis did his job tonight. Khris(8-22) and Jrue(7-16) got outscored by Jeff Green(8-11) while the only thing they had to do was to attack Harden with 1 leg. Jrue alone wasted half of our possessions dribbling the ball in front of him for 10-15 seconds without doing nothing other than throwing a brick or a late forced pass. He said that even if I had attacked Harden would no call foul me. A proper coach would have tell him to STFU and keep attacking the cripple.


Saying he isn't a competitor is probably too harsh but the guy has no instincts at all. And my point is he's not helping by just wondering close to the rim and not contesting anything. Does it numerous times a game and leaves his teammates out to dry.

To say Giannis did his job tonight as he fumbled away any chace literally and figuratively during the game is just plain wrong. He had great moments, as did the rest of the main guys. But they all failed once again when things got tight and they only have themselves to blame.
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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#443 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:17 am

It's actually insane that Brook didn't get touches in the post. Like criminal. He's a **** giant being guarded by Mikes James and Landry Shmaet and we have him playing like Bryn **** Forbes. It's almost a damn near cheat code against this team and when things are bogging down on the perimeter throw the **** ball down low and let Brook work.

Durant played insane. He's the reason they won that game. But he isn't the reason we lost.
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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#444 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:28 am

humanrefutation wrote:You didn't have to double KD. Just put your DPOY on him instead of having him sit in a corner for half the game.

I'm not saying that Giannis would have stopped KD. Tucker is an excellent defender and has played quality defense against him, including at some points today. KD was on one. He literally had flames coming from his shots. Sometimes you can't stop him.

But Giannis's length would have bothered every single shot in a way Tucker and Middleton can't. Maybe KD still has a monster game, but instead of 49 points on 70% shooting, he only scores 42 on 60% shooting. That's the difference in the game. Right there.



What's easier though? To try to stop one of the best offensive players of all time in a career night or just put more buckets against mediocre defenders in the other end?

Giannis pretty or ugly he does his job this series. He is averaging 30.6 points on 57.2 TS% this series, 28 on 62.8 TS% at Brooklyn .That's actually close or better to his season average.

Khris: 21.8 points on 47.7 TS% this series overall and 18.3 points on 40 TS% at Brooklyn
Jrue: 14.4 points on 46.6 TS% this series overall and 16.3 points on 51.9 TS% at Brooklyn

Point wise they are close to their season average but their efficiency is near trash territory. That's a lot of wasted possessions against defenders not really fit to stop them. They need to do much better especially on game 7 in the road.
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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#445 » by Plossum » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:35 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:It's actually insane that Brook didn't get touches in the post. Like criminal. He's a **** giant being guarded by Mikes James and Landry Shmaet and we have him playing like Bryn **** Forbes. It's almost a damn near cheat code against this team and when things are bogging down on the perimeter throw the **** ball down low and let Brook work.

Durant played insane. He's the reason they won that game. But he isn't the reason we lost.

Don't disagree but he's got to make quick moves or he'll get swarmed by doubles as he makes his move.
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Post#446 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:39 am

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Baddy Chuck wrote:It's actually insane that Brook didn't get touches in the post. Like criminal. He's a **** giant being guarded by Mikes James and Landry Shmaet and we have him playing like Bryn **** Forbes. It's almost a damn near cheat code against this team and when things are bogging down on the perimeter throw the **** ball down low and let Brook work.

Durant played insane. He's the reason they won that game. But he isn't the reason we lost.

Don't disagree but he's got to make quick moves or he'll get swarmed by doubles as he makes his move.

I'll take that compared to Jrue and Giannis trying a pick and roll for 10 seconds and then Jrue dribbling it out for 15. I'd also argue Brook makes much better decisions in the post compared to Giannis who though doesn't get a ton of post touches, gets way more than Brook. It's literally **** insane.
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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#447 » by RiotPunch » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:40 am

Jeff "Ray Allen" Green was largely a product of Brook being out there. If you aren't trying to utilize him in the post, you are bleeding points. You cannot switch with any regularity, and you have a giant human backpedalling and trying to change direction to contest the pick and pop.

Troubling personnel, troubling strategy, damning results.
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Post#448 » by HKPackFan » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:21 am

I think we all collectively watched the last 4 minutes of this game and knew the result in the pit of our stomaches.

Just being a frigging bucks fan was enough to know.
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Post#449 » by th87 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:22 am

It's hours later, can't sleep at 4 AM ET, and still can't get over how incredibly (and predictably) stupid this team is.

A disgrace to the game. If I had the dignity, I'd stop associating with these losers.
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Post#450 » by Tomjas » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:28 am

Sixers fan here

Have generally enjoyed watching you guys this year but this series has been rough

No basketball expert but the iso stuff you have been playing is nonsense

Harden is on one friggin leg so move the ball until you get onto him or one of their role players

Sixers were guilty of same thing last night

Embiid is injured so move the ball to get others decent shots
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Post#451 » by Coach Carter » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:32 am

RiotPunch wrote:Jeff "Ray Allen" Green was largely a product of Brook being out there. If you aren't trying to utilize him in the post, you are bleeding points. You cannot switch with any regularity, and you have a giant human backpedalling and trying to change direction to contest the pick and pop.

Troubling personnel, troubling strategy, damning results.


Bud has never understood when to play and not play brook. He seems content with having brook shoot 3 pointers essentially trading 3's with the net shooters, just like he was content trading ISO plays with not only the best dude in the league atm but arguably the best offensive player of all time.

Why is bud still here? You'd have to ask horst, who I've described as a very active though very average GM. Gives up 1sts like they're nothing, poor eye for talent and has been late to make obvious moves. Like bledsoe who should've left in 2018, instead horst resigned him instead of brogdon and eventually traded him when his value was rock bottom. I believe bud will get sacked but again it will be two years too late. BTW, Sorry to make this about horst.
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Post#452 » by Coach Carter » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:44 am

Tomjas wrote:Sixers fan here

Have generally enjoyed watching you guys this year but this series has been rough

No basketball expert but the iso stuff you have been playing is nonsense

Harden is on one friggin leg so move the ball until you get onto him or one of their role players

Sixers were guilty of same thing last night

Embiid is injured so move the ball to get others decent shots


I remember coming over to your boards, whereby your fans were expressing their frustration with Brett Brown. You guys endured a lot with that clown but so have we with bud. I guess stay away from anyone that worked with pop...Anyway, both our fan bases deserve much better. It's just been mistake after mistake...The other day, I'm watching the suns, questioning why phili gave up this dude Mikal Bridges? He's like the perfect glue guy.
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Re: PG: Bucks on the Brink 

Post#453 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:50 am

Don't take advantage against a small team, don't go small either. Go team.
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Post#454 » by Antinomy » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:05 am

I know there are some of you still holding out hope, but we’re pretty much done. Unless we win by 20+ points, I can already tell you how Game 6 will go.

We’ll start off playing well, get a 15 point lead, then the stagnant offense starts, Giannis starts doing his dumb sh*t again, & we blow the lead late.

It’s happened EVERY SINGLE TIME in the last 3 years.

I’m out on Giannis & I know I’m not the only one. He’s Dwight Howard mixed with Russell Westbrook. Low IQ basketball, no recognition of time/score/shot selection/matchups, insists on doing things he’s not good at, needs to be coddled, etc.

The play where Harden waved off the double team just for Giannis to take a fadeaway jumper was disgusting.

But the one that was worse was when Giannis set a weakass screen for Jrue, then immediately popped out to the 3 point line, clapped his hands demanding the ball w/ Jrue trying to ignore him for 5 seconds. Then once Jrue finally tosses him the ball, he just runs directly into Jeff Green for a charge.

Khris was visibly frustrated & run over to Giannis demonstrably saying something.

This is besides the other charges, dumb 3s, missed FTs, bad reads & inviting his defender to help on drives by standing in no mans land.

Finally, there had to have been some politics being played in the background because we ran baseline post ups for Giannis the final 5 minutes of the game instead of going to Khris PnRs which had been successful in every postseason game so far.

I just can’t take it anymore.
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Post#455 » by Tomjas » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:10 am

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Tomjas wrote:Sixers fan here

Have generally enjoyed watching you guys this year but this series has been rough

No basketball expert but the iso stuff you have been playing is nonsense

Harden is on one friggin leg so move the ball until you get onto him or one of their role players

Sixers were guilty of same thing last night

Embiid is injured so move the ball to get others decent shots


I remember coming over to your boards, whereby your fans were expressing their frustration with Brett Brown. You guys endured a lot with that clown but so have we with bud. I guess stay away from anyone that worked with pop...Anyway, both our fan bases deserve much better. It's just been mistake after mistake...The other day, I'm watching the suns, questioning why phili gave up this dude Mikal Bridges? He's like the perfect glue guy.


So strange

Bridges’ mum works for the Sixers and we gave him up for a guy who no longer plays pro basketball

The Fultz story is the stuff of legend but Zhaire Smith is right up there

It’s like they have gone out of our way to sabotage Embiid & Simmons

I mean Al Horford?

Great guy & good player

Sixers: let’s pay this old guy a truckload to stand in the spot that Joel & Ben want to get to
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Post#456 » by DB23 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:23 am

Decades of trauma coming out tonight….

Got to stay positive, they can do this, just need to play a bit smarter. Yea I understand they have a history of playing dumb but they have 0 chance if they get their heads down. Relax, believe, change the narrative.

They played well last night, just tightened up in the 2nd half.
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Post#457 » by Sigra » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:37 am

Home court advantage has been crucial so far because:
1. Nets play so much better at home
2. Refs help home team in each game of this series

So in theory we can win game 6. But, that is elimination game and therefore big pressure. We will probably crush under such a pressure.

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Post#458 » by galena » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:48 am

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Why is every offensive possession just a thoughtless mess

Why do we have to watch 1-2 more games of this garbage

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Post#459 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:44 am

Honestly think we played pretty well overall last night. We pretty much threw everything we could at Durant at one point or another and he just made the right decision/made the shot every single time. It was pretty awe-inspiring to watch.

We just don't value good possessions enough on the offensive end; whether it ultimately costs us this series or costs us down the line, it's bound to happen at some point.

But end of the day, we shot around 50/40 from the field/3 point line and I don't even think we defended bad. Durant just had one of the best games you'll ever see and Jeff Green did his best Klay Thompson impersonation.
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Post#460 » by Touchpass » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:59 am

Refs were masterful in having most of our guys on the edge of foul trouble the whole game.

Nash pulled Brown at half and Brook became fully exposed. We let Durant pick us apart while two first team all defenders watched. Even Khris did a nice job on him in the end. Yet, we watched possession after possession of PJ, Brook and Pat get scorched.

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