Chris Paul Symptom-Free Since Testing Positive, Suns Hopeful Of Early Return In WCF

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Chris Paul Symptom-Free Since Testing Positive, Suns Hopeful Of Early Return In WCF 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:42 am

The Phoenix Suns are hopeful Chris Paul will be cleared from the NBA's COVID-19 health and protocols at some point early in the Western Conference Finals.


Paul is quarantining in Los Angeles and has been symptom-free since testing positive for COVID-19 last week.


The Suns lead the Los Angeles Clippers 1-0 in their series. 


Monty Williams said Paul’s return is unknown.


“It’s just a day-to-day thing with him right now,” Williams said after the game. “I probably drive the people here crazy with that, but that’s the way it is. We’re hopeful that any day now we hear he can ramp up and get back with us. But right now, he’s in the protocol.”



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Post#2 » by CanesHeatFins » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:40 am

How can this thing be labeled a vaccine if it doesn't keep you from catching or spreading the disease? So it takes the survival rate from about 99.3% to about 99.5%? But it triples the likelihood of you catching covid, because you literally inject a modified version of the virus inside yourself.
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Post#3 » by xdrta+ » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:55 am

Educate yourself about vaccines and the virus. Everything you posted is wrong.
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Post#4 » by JR Hawks » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:09 am

It takes a real idiot to not get vaccinated before the playoffs.
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Post#5 » by pootbrah » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:25 am

JR Hawks wrote:It takes a real idiot to not get vaccinated before the playoffs.


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Post#6 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:22 pm

CanesHeatFins wrote:How can this thing be labeled a vaccine if it doesn't keep you from catching or spreading the disease? So it takes the survival rate from about 99.3% to about 99.5%? But it triples the likelihood of you catching covid, because you literally inject a modified version of the virus inside yourself.


It reduces the chance of getting sick by over 90% (depends on the vaccine taken). In no way shape or form are you more likely to get it after taking the vaccine. This is how all vaccines work.
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Post#7 » by gottamakeit » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:55 pm

All these anti-vaxers and vaccine doubters....smh
The dumbest people are usually the loudest voices.
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Post#8 » by slay25 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:57 pm

gottamakeit wrote:All these anti-vaxers and vaccine doubters....smh
The dumbest people are usually the loudest voices.


so he was vaccinated tho...
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Post#9 » by slay25 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:58 pm

nba is part of the whole show. you can go into a grocery store in california without a mask and attend a packed basketball game but Chris Paul, a vaccinated person, has to miss a game for testing positive for Covid and has no symptoms. LOL to anyone who still buys this garbage.
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Post#10 » by gottamakeit » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:01 pm

slay25 wrote:nba is part of the whole show. you can go into a grocery store in california without a mask and attend a packed basketball game but Chris Paul, a vaccinated person, has to miss a game for testing positive for Covid and has no symptoms. LOL to anyone who still buys this garbage.


LOL to the people who don't possess an ounce of intelligence.
I feel bad for you.
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Post#11 » by slay25 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:27 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
slay25 wrote:nba is part of the whole show. you can go into a grocery store in california without a mask and attend a packed basketball game but Chris Paul, a vaccinated person, has to miss a game for testing positive for Covid and has no symptoms. LOL to anyone who still buys this garbage.


LOL to the people who don't possess an ounce of intelligence.
I feel bad for you.


nice comeback! wow! i'm not worthy of this debate with you! you make such great points, how can i ever respond?
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Post#12 » by lonea » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:00 pm

That just shows you don't know how vaccines and general science work.

slay25 wrote:nba is part of the whole show. you can go into a grocery store in california without a mask and attend a packed basketball game but Chris Paul, a vaccinated person, has to miss a game for testing positive for Covid and has no symptoms. LOL to anyone who still buys this garbage.
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Post#13 » by bigdamoan2k2 » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:05 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
slay25 wrote:nba is part of the whole show. you can go into a grocery store in california without a mask and attend a packed basketball game but Chris Paul, a vaccinated person, has to miss a game for testing positive for Covid and has no symptoms. LOL to anyone who still buys this garbage.


LOL to the people who don't possess an ounce of intelligence.
I feel bad for you.


Feel bad for yourself. If you do not have symptoms you are not sick and do not pose a threat to anyone. Yeah, uh boss, I am not going to be able to make it into work today because I think i might be sick. I have zero symptoms and feel perfectly fine but perhaps I should stay home as a precaution. Whaattt? He should be playing!! You can test positive even 90 days after symptom onset due to a sensitive pcr test - which at that point you are obviously not infectious. Fact check that!
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Post#14 » by lonea » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:08 pm

The world doesn't revolve around 1 person.

Everything you posted is about "you you you".

I feel bad for you.

bigdamoan2k2 wrote:
gottamakeit wrote:
slay25 wrote:nba is part of the whole show. you can go into a grocery store in california without a mask and attend a packed basketball game but Chris Paul, a vaccinated person, has to miss a game for testing positive for Covid and has no symptoms. LOL to anyone who still buys this garbage.


LOL to the people who don't possess an ounce of intelligence.
I feel bad for you.


Feel bad for yourself. If you do not have symptoms you are not sick and do not pose a threat to anyone. Yeah, uh boss, I am not going to be able to make it into work today because I think i might be sick. I have zero symptoms and feel perfectly fine but perhaps I should stay home as a precaution. Whaattt? He should be playing!! You can test positive even 90 days after symptom onset due to a sensitive pcr test - which at that point you are obviously not infectious. Fact check that!
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Post#15 » by Barcs » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:37 pm

Has Paul actually been vaccinated? All I heard were rumors.
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Post#16 » by Barcs » Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:41 pm

bigdamoan2k2 wrote: If you do not have symptoms you are not sick and do not pose a threat to anyone.


100% false. Educate yourself.
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Post#17 » by leorn » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:12 pm

Barcs wrote:
bigdamoan2k2 wrote: If you do not have symptoms you are not sick and do not pose a threat to anyone.


100% false. Educate yourself.

I service a well respected doctor with my business. I politely asked if he wanted me to wear a mask several months back. I had covid over Thanksgiving. He said no. He elaborated: " It came out in the medical journal this month that same household asymptomatic carriers pose a 0.7% risk of spread within the household." He also mentioned people were getting fired for having the wrong opinions on the topic, so he had to be careful who he shares with.

So yes there is a risk and as of say 3 months ago it was 0.7%. I expect the NBA to hold out CP3 for a while because perception and actual risk can be different and as a business the safe route is to appease both. Also 0.7% could be reasonable to deem too much risk.
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Post#18 » by Barcs » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:56 pm

leorn wrote:
Barcs wrote:
bigdamoan2k2 wrote: If you do not have symptoms you are not sick and do not pose a threat to anyone.


100% false. Educate yourself.

I service a well respected doctor with my business. I politely asked if he wanted me to wear a mask several months back. I had covid over Thanksgiving. He said no. He elaborated: " It came out in the medical journal this month that same household asymptomatic carriers pose a 0.7% risk of spread within the household." He also mentioned people were getting fired for having the wrong opinions on the topic, so he had to be careful who he shares with.

So yes there is a risk and as of say 3 months ago it was 0.7%. I expect the NBA to hold out CP3 for a while because perception and actual risk can be different and as a business the safe route is to appease both. Also 0.7% could be reasonable to deem too much risk.


Do you have a link to this journal article?
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Post#19 » by leorn » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:02 pm

Barcs wrote:
leorn wrote:
Barcs wrote:
100% false. Educate yourself.

I service a well respected doctor with my business. I politely asked if he wanted me to wear a mask several months back. I had covid over Thanksgiving. He said no. He elaborated: " It came out in the medical journal this month that same household asymptomatic carriers pose a 0.7% risk of spread within the household." He also mentioned people were getting fired for having the wrong opinions on the topic, so he had to be careful who he shares with.

So yes there is a risk and as of say 3 months ago it was 0.7%. I expect the NBA to hold out CP3 for a while because perception and actual risk can be different and as a business the safe route is to appease both. Also 0.7% could be reasonable to deem too much risk.


Do you have a link to this journal article?

I googled and there's nothing like that there. This is a guy who is not political and a longtime client. I get that it's hard to trust without sources, but anymore I trust people I actually know over what I can find on the internet/news. The facts I can actually verify prove the news or other traditional sources wrong so commonly I have lost all faith. I guess I'm trusting the medical journal in this case. It does jive with my personal experience that I can actually verify albeit not very scientific.

I get that nobody here knows me which makes it hard. I don't care enough to go find the Journal etc. Lots of consequences there that make it tricky and more time than I care to invest.
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Post#20 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:46 pm

leorn wrote:
Barcs wrote:
leorn wrote:I service a well respected doctor with my business. I politely asked if he wanted me to wear a mask several months back. I had covid over Thanksgiving. He said no. He elaborated: " It came out in the medical journal this month that same household asymptomatic carriers pose a 0.7% risk of spread within the household." He also mentioned people were getting fired for having the wrong opinions on the topic, so he had to be careful who he shares with.

So yes there is a risk and as of say 3 months ago it was 0.7%. I expect the NBA to hold out CP3 for a while because perception and actual risk can be different and as a business the safe route is to appease both. Also 0.7% could be reasonable to deem too much risk.


Do you have a link to this journal article?

I googled and there's nothing like that there. This is a guy who is not political and a longtime client. I get that it's hard to trust without sources, but anymore I trust people I actually know over what I can find on the internet/news. The facts I can actually verify prove the news or other traditional sources wrong so commonly I have lost all faith. I guess I'm trusting the medical journal in this case. It does jive with my personal experience that I can actually verify albeit not very scientific.

I get that nobody here knows me which makes it hard. I don't care enough to go find the Journal etc. Lots of consequences there that make it tricky and more time than I care to invest.


I take at face value your description of the scientific article, but it is just one article and generally we can't accept as a given that the risk of CP3 transmitting the virus to others is only .7%.

I do actually think a vaccinated and asymptomatic individual is much less likely to spread the virus to others, but it's hard to quantitate that within the context of an NBA athlete going about practice, meeting, and games- is that riskier than the average family member as mentioned in that article? What if he is infected with the new Delta variant which is more contagious, what is the number then? If the risk could be quantitated at .7%, as you say even then there's still the question of what is an acceptable risk level.

I think all in all, I think there is still enough uncertainty at this point that any player who tests positive for COVID should be held out until they sufficient confirmation via negative tests. I imagine in Paul's case it won't take too long.

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