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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#141 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:46 pm

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Not fake, apparently.

He's playing the "I was hacked" card.

Read on Twitter

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This is a Fake.
Try not to post this kind of stuff.


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Apparently its not a fake but he was "hacked".

Doing the old Kurt Angle drunk/drugged out hacked twitter again.

Well. Apologies to the initial poster.

Of course, we all Know that this was Fake News.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#142 » by moonie_mcgee » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:46 pm

Really smart hire. Udoka must be very acquainted with Smart Brown Tatum trough Team USA. And despite that team's poor showing, it has not bearing on this team this year. Stevens is 2-2. Keep on rolling!
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#143 » by Feed Your Head » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:47 pm

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The Comedian wrote:Putting this in spoiler tags, as it’s NSFW.

Spoiler:
“Ime has been just as we thought he would be,” Popovich said in 2013. “He’s a pro. He enjoys the discussions, the arguments about pick-and-roll and post defense and all that kind of junk. He understands what’s to be gained from watching and figuring things out that way. He’s at work all day, either in coaches’ meetings or watching or on the court, trying to get better at his craft.”

Popovich added: “The guys have reacted great to him. He has earned their respect, so much so that in his first year I put him in charge of 10 [opposing] teams. He is responsible for scouting reports for them, telling me what he thinks we should do against them. We talk about it, then he addresses the team [at shootaround], giving them the scouting report. He is doing the whole nine yards. He has been wonderful, he really has.”

Even then, in his first season as an assistant, Udoka had shown Popovich that he could be an NBA head coach some day.

“Absolutely,” Popovich said of that possible development. “Ime has the toughness and the mind to where he understands how to maintain discipline. A lot of coaches will give in and do what’s easy. He knows how to handle players. He has been able to stroke them and stay on them at the same time. That’s a really good quality. The players know he cares about them, but he can make demands and they respond to him. That’s important for a head coach. Players have great ‘BS antenna.’ If they think you don’t know what you’re doing, they’re going to call you out immediately.”


“He exudes a confidence and a comfort in his own skin where people just gravitate to him,” Popovich said in a 2015 ESPN story. “He’s a fundamentally sound teacher because he’s comfortable with himself, he knows the material and players read it. Often times, I’ll say, ‘Ime, can you go talk to so-and-so? Go talk to Patty Mills, go talk to Timmy [Duncan], go talk to Kawhi [Leonard].’ And he’ll do it better than I would do it — and I’m not blowing smoke.”

That experience and comfort talking to star players — something he experienced on the superteam Nets this past season — should obviously serve him well going forward.

Popovich, though, did fault Udoka in one specific area.

“The only thing I don’t like about him is that he doesn’t drink, so I can’t enjoy a glass of wine with him,” Popovich lamented. “He’s really boring at dinner.”

The Celtics are probably all right with that.

In 2018, Udoka said he shared some traits with Popovich.

“Overall my approach is similar to Pop, very demanding as well, but don’t get rattled on the outside,” Udoka said.

That being said, Udoka is wise enough to know that Popovich cannot be emulated.

“I would always emphasize in the meetings, ‘I learned a ton under Pop and been blessed to see what he does, but I’m not Pop. I’m my own person,'” Udoka said in 2019. “You have to stress that. The worst thing you can do is try to be somebody else and not be genuine with who you are. So, he’s always said that from Day 1. He said, ‘I brought you here to be yourself and be able to talk to guys and do what you do. They hear enough from me, so you got to be authentic in who you are.”

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/06/23/ime-udoka-earned-gregg-popovich-respect-hes-a-pro/

Cool but I'll add I don't trust people that don't drink my robot/ alien/ or do gooder detector goes straight haywire. Reviews and respect goes along way until your revieled as a great assistant coach it's done now so I hope he as good as they say but I felt real legit studs were available rather than a risk reward pic.


What makes him any more risk reward than the others? There’s a reason he was the first of all the assistants hired.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#144 » by bisme37 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:49 pm

That tweet wasn't fake and he wasn't hacked either. He tried to give a heartfelt congrats to Ime Udoka and added in the part that wasn't remotely true. Everyone made fun of him so he took it down. Now he's saying someone else hacked into his twitter account so they could congratulate Ime Udoka. Yeah I'm so sure bro rofl. Just admit the mistake or shut up about it man, you sound even dumber now.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#145 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:49 pm

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Stats say that’s a lie but at least you shot your shot-more than Ben Simmons could ever say


Okay, sure a sixers fan is saying the sixers defense was bad two years ago. I wonder who would know more about that. You or me.


Two years ago, it was the offseason, and Ime Udoka had just been hired by the Sixers.

One season ago, the Embiid/Horford/Harris front court wasn't exceptionally mobile, and besides Simmons, you guys were wholly dependent on Thybulle and Josh Richardson for wing defense.


Oh we're being that literal. My bad. I meant the 2019-20 season.

Thybulle didn't get many minutes in his rookie year. Ben Simmons was our wing defense and Josh Richardson. In fact Brown, used Simmons on defense of star players far more than Doc has this year. Additionally in the playoffs when the Sixers were swept they initially used that drop coverage and had to change it, when they saw that it was complete ass. This was the 2nd or 3rd game of the series. Now it may have been Brown who had final say, but Udoka was the one whose name was on the defense. Lloyd Pierce ran our defense prior to Udoka coming, and the Sixers had a top 5 defense. As I said, the book is still out, but I wouldn't be surprised if the defense is still bad. A lot of that could be on personnel though too for the Celtics so let's see.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#146 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:51 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:This is a Fake.
Try not to post this kind of stuff.


~ Parl


Not fake, apparently.

He's playing the "I was hacked" card.

Read on Twitter

chrisab123 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Spoiler:

This is a Fake.
Try not to post this kind of stuff.


~ Parl


Apparently its not a fake but he was "hacked".

Doing the old Kurt Angle drunk/drugged out hacked twitter again.

Well. Apologies to the initial poster.

Of course, we all Know that this was Fake News.


I was hacked is even more embarrassing than the original tweet. He just needs to take the L and move on.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#147 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:54 pm

Didn't Stevens help out with that USA basketball team? I have no doubt that Stevens has had previous interactions with Udoka. Having said that, if Udoka doesn't make the EC finals by year 2 (assuming a relatively injury-free roster) , he will probably be fired. Coaching is a difficult profession in that respect.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#148 » by captain green » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:57 pm

The Comedian wrote:
captain green wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Putting this in spoiler tags, as it’s NSFW.

Spoiler:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/06/23/ime-udoka-earned-gregg-popovich-respect-hes-a-pro/

Cool but I'll add I don't trust people that don't drink my robot/ alien/ or do gooder detector goes straight haywire. Reviews and respect goes along way until your revieled as a great assistant coach it's done now so I hope he as good as they say but I felt real legit studs were available rather than a risk reward pic.


What makes him any more risk reward than the others? There’s a reason he was the first of all the assistants hired.

I feel he was riskier than the others or rather just felt others were less risky. I'll keep up hope but I'll definitely watch who else is hired and unfairly judge him until he wins me over. The risk to me is X's and I'd I hear about all the great personality stuff but absolutely nothing on his actual coaching philosophy. Pop says he scouted other teams ok cool and he would send him to chat with players also cool. Sub patterns defense scheme's and 2 minute drills etc. He does come from pops tree but he also was in the nets staff and philly too. Hopefully he gets coach of the year.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#149 » by RickyDizzle » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:00 am

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this isn't true. We had the first black head coach ever in Bill Russell.

turd getting paid to know nothing.


He also played for the Bulls while Doc was HC of the C's.


Don't forget when ML Carr hired himself to be the coach too.
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#150 » by threrf23 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:02 am

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Oh we're being that literal. My bad. I meant the 2019-20 season.

Thybulle didn't get many minutes in his rookie year. Ben Simmons was our wing defense and Josh Richardson. In fact Brown, used Simmons on defense of star players far more than Doc has this year. Additionally in the playoffs when the Sixers were swept they initially used that drop coverage and had to change it, when they saw that it was complete ass. This was the 2nd or 3rd game of the series. Now it may have been Brown who had final say, but Udoka was the one whose name was on the defense. Lloyd Pierce ran our defense prior to Udoka coming, and the Sixers had a top 5 defense. As I said, the book is still out, but I wouldn't be surprised if the defense is still bad. A lot of that could be on personnel though too for the Celtics so let's see.


But Simmons was out during the playoffs, and you guys had a top 6 defense during the regular season if we're going by points per game, top 7 if points per possession, top 8 by DRTG.

Prior to Udoka coming, you guys had Jimmy Butler playing 55 games (Covington beforehand). You also had Harris being used primarily as a PF, where he fits properly on defense. Simmons played 79 games and Embiid 64.

I'm sure Udoka's defensive schemes may have had some weaknesses that you picked up on, but you're not being fair here.
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Post#152 » by sam_I_am » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:05 am

Popovic, Tatum, Brown Udoka and Team USA underperformed as a team. However, Brown’s massive improvement starting with his time with that coaching staff is exciting. Udoka definitely has the look and personality of a TV friendly coach. I think he is a great hire and will help market team throughout league. I am biggest Ainge fan on this board. I loved him as player, coach and GM but his luck turned sour and his recent moves were not his best. Stevens is so boring but that might be a nice change from Ainge. Ainge is the original “guy you hate” until he’s on your team. That has worked against the Celtics as the cost to do business became too costly. I think Steven’s will recede quietly into background and Udoka will be a great fresh face for the franchise. Hopefully he can continue Steven’s excellent Xs and Os track record while lighting a fire under the players.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#153 » by MagicBagley18 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:12 am

captain green wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
captain green wrote:Cool but I'll add I don't trust people that don't drink my robot/ alien/ or do gooder detector goes straight haywire. Reviews and respect goes along way until your revieled as a great assistant coach it's done now so I hope he as good as they say but I felt real legit studs were available rather than a risk reward pic.


What makes him any more risk reward than the others? There’s a reason he was the first of all the assistants hired.

I feel he was riskier than the others or rather just felt others were less risky. I'll keep up hope but I'll definitely watch who else is hired and unfairly judge him until he wins me over. The risk to me is X's and I'd I hear about all the great personality stuff but absolutely nothing on his actual coaching philosophy. Pop says he scouted other teams ok cool and he would send him to chat with players also cool. Sub patterns defense scheme's and 2 minute drills etc. He does come from pops tree but he also was in the nets staff and philly too. Hopefully he gets coach of the year.


We didn’t fire brad because he lacked x and o’s. In fact from an ato and x and o stand point brad was really good for the majority of his tenure- most of the coaches were going to be a step down from a strategic stand point. What ime provides is a relatability that can reach the players and make them buy in in a way stevens couldn’t.

Ime can talk to these guys from experience, in a way that only former players can see the court. He can hold them accountable in ways that brad couldn’t. The new coach hire was always going to be about motivating the players to buy in fully and create a culture of accountability that we lacked last season.
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Post#154 » by Bill Lumbergh » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:13 am

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Post#155 » by cloverleaf » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:14 am

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Bleeding Green wrote:lmao this is so far off. he takes like 5 shots a game when the Celtics are healthy. Problem is they haven't been healthy in four years so he gets pushed from fourth option to second half the time.


So we're going to use the not healthy in ____ years excuse every year? Next year its going to be the Celtics haven't been healthy in 5 years so that's why Marcus jacks up 10 3s. Seriously should play him like Rondo. Just pass the ball and play D. Thats it.

I like him when hes locked in on defense but the fact he can't do any wrong with a certain sect of the board is odd. Dude takes bad shots consistently. I'm tired of the injury excuse with this team too. Maybe the pieces just don't fit.


You exaggerate the number of 3-point shots Marcus takes. His career average for 3-point shots is 4.7/game. The majority of the 3s he takes are when he has a good look, or when the clock is running down. He has good shooting games, and bad ones, like any player. His 3-point average last year was 33%, not especially good, but in the average range. That average dipped from the previous two years when he shot 36% and 35%. While he may take some ill advised shots, it is a common strategy to move the ball to find a player who is open for a three point shot. Coaches, including Brad Stevens, encourage players to take those open threes. While Marcus is not an elite shooter, he's good enough that he should take the shot when he gets a good look. For the most part, that is what Marcus does. Takes the three when he gets a good look. If he misses, it's not usually because he took a "bad shot," but just because he missed. An excellent 3-point shooter will can a shot 40% of the time. The other 60%? Misses. A miss is a miss, bad shot or not.


There's a reason Smart finds himself so open for 3s so often (hint: it's their opponents' defensive strategy), but he often takes them far earlier in the clock than he should, given his .330 average vs. the league's .367 average or the team's .374 average (with Smart's clunkers averaged in).
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Post#156 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:34 am

bisme37 wrote:That tweet wasn't fake and he wasn't hacked either. He tried to give a heartfelt congrats to Ime Udoka and added in the part that wasn't remotely true. Everyone made fun of him so he took it down. Now he's saying someone else hacked into his twitter account so they could congratulate Ime Udoka. Yeah I'm so sure bro rofl. Just admit the mistake or shut up about it man, you sound even dumber now.


Ya it's kinda sad. He made an honest mistake, I'm sure, but he made it trying to dunk on the Boston which is not cool, and then lies about it as so many are prone to do. Smart dude but very unfortunate.
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Post#157 » by K For Three » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:45 am

I am fine with whoever the new coach is as long as the offense stops looking like the hot garbage factory.

Welcome to the Celtics Ime Udoka!!!
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Re: Woj: Ime Udoka To Be Named Head Coach 

Post#160 » by Celtic Esquire » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:55 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
bisme37 wrote:That tweet wasn't fake and he wasn't hacked either. He tried to give a heartfelt congrats to Ime Udoka and added in the part that wasn't remotely true. Everyone made fun of him so he took it down. Now he's saying someone else hacked into his twitter account so they could congratulate Ime Udoka. Yeah I'm so sure bro rofl. Just admit the mistake or shut up about it man, you sound even dumber now.


Ya it's kinda sad. He made an honest mistake, I'm sure, but he made it trying to dunk on the Boston which is not cool, and then lies about it as so many are prone to do. Smart dude but very unfortunate.


His "I was hacked excuse" is an unbelievable BS excuse. Just admit that you messed up and move on.

Don't double down and make yourself look like even more of a clown.

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