MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[MettaWorldPanda]

If Porzingis is available then the Heat should go after him first.

Its either Porzingis and Graham or Lowry and Adams

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No way you get Graham or Adams with either of those two. If Dragic and Iggy are to be used in trade that means we are working as a capped out team. Meaning they are needed to trade for Porzingis or a S&T Lowry.

The most we would have to spend from there is the MLE and Bi Annual. We would be able to match Nunn and Robinson if we want and offer over the cap deals with bird rights to Oladipo and Ariza. If we signed Lowry with cap space that means we have basically renounced everyone and have only the 4.7 room exception to sign an extra player.

If we sign Lowry to 23.7 million in cap space that means Nunn and Robinson get matched but little room for much else. It makes all the sense for us to operate as capped team. The very worst case scenario is everyone comes back with the additions of the MLE and bi annual player.

Going for Dinwiddie is pretty much the same scenario as going for Lowry. Going for Porzingis for me is better then Lowry or Dinwiddie. I’ll take my chances matching Nunn and signing Rose to the MLE or splitting that with someone like McConnell and another player.

Brooklyn could be interested in a S&T with Dinwiddie for Dragic and Iguodala. Might have to take on DeAndre Jordan in a deal like that.

The Heat need to accept short of trading for a disgruntled star there isn't a move out there that will be put is in the top tier of contenders. The best move would to pursue moves that are not going to hurt our flexibility. I'd go after Lowry, on a two year. I don't really care about the number. Then use you midlevel to get a 4 or a 5.
The go into the season and hope Bam, Herro and Precious improve and that there's is a disgruntled star that wants a trade. And by disgruntled star I mean not KP, he's a damaged goods. I'd bet one of Lavine, Beal and Dame will be traded some time next season. You hope they ask for a trade specifically to the Heat.

No mid level if you sign Lowry with cap space. Looking at getting another Harkless with the room exception. You have to hope we get Lowry via S&T. Will probably need a 3rd team to reroute Dragic and Iguodala. Raptors will have very little incentive unless they themselves want Porzingis. Porzingis is a depressed asset but that depressed asset still managed over 20 points a game with healthy rebounding and three point shooting. I’ll take the gameble for expiring contracts we’ll be sending out. At worst he’s a contract to use for future deals with draft picks attached.

[twix2500]

Dragic and Iggy are large matching contracts for a long term depressed asset like Porzingis. If we get Lowry that means Porzingis heads to Raptors in a 3 team deal. If they are not interested in Porzingis they’ll probably shop Lowry for the best S&T deal that brings in the best assets not the best expiring contracts. Masai has said he’ll be fine opening up the cap space if Lowry walks.

If Porzingis is available then the Heat should go after him first.

Its either Porzingis and Graham or Lowry and Adams

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No way you get Graham or Adams with either of those two. If Dragic and Iggy are to be used in trade that means we are working as a capped out team. Meaning they are needed to trade for Porzingis or a S&T Lowry.

The most we would have to spend from there is the MLE and Bi Annual. We would be able to match Nunn and Robinson if we want and offer over the cap deals with bird rights to Oladipo and Ariza. If we signed Lowry with cap space that means we have basically renounced everyone and have only the 4.7 room exception to sign an extra player.

If we sign Lowry to 23.7 million in cap space that means Nunn and Robinson get matched but little room for much else. It makes all the sense for us to operate as capped team. The very worst case scenario is everyone comes back with the additions of the MLE and bi annual player.

Going for Dinwiddie is pretty much the same scenario as going for Lowry. Going for Porzingis for me is better then Lowry or Dinwiddie. I’ll take my chances matching Nunn and signing Rose to the MLE or splitting that with someone like McConnell and another player.

Brooklyn could be interested in a S&T with Dinwiddie for Dragic and Iguodala. Might have to take on DeAndre Jordan in a deal like that.

Dragic and Iggy is 35 mill dollars so your getting back more than just Lowry. Add Precious to the deal and your talking about 37.5 mill. Salary wise you can swing a deal getting Adams and Lowry.

Let me state this, Dragis has trade value. If you are a team trying to make a run next yr Dragic has great value. So does Iggy. That is why its important to trade him so you can add a better fit player.

I'm sure the Raptors knows this and are willing to get a trade asset to use to fill up their roster as well.

Then Nunn is also a trade chip as well. The Heat have a lot of options moving Iggy, Dragic, Precious and Nunn as trade chips. Then use the full 10 mill MLE to fill up the bench.
I am confident Heat are not going make moves as an under the cap team.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

If Porzingis is available then the Heat should go after him first.

Its either Porzingis and Graham or Lowry and Adams

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No way you get Graham or Adams with either of those two. If Dragic and Iggy are to be used in trade that means we are working as a capped out team. Meaning they are needed to trade for Porzingis or a S&T Lowry.

The most we would have to spend from there is the MLE and Bi Annual. We would be able to match Nunn and Robinson if we want and offer over the cap deals with bird rights to Oladipo and Ariza. If we signed Lowry with cap space that means we have basically renounced everyone and have only the 4.7 room exception to sign an extra player.

If we sign Lowry to 23.7 million in cap space that means Nunn and Robinson get matched but little room for much else. It makes all the sense for us to operate as capped team. The very worst case scenario is everyone comes back with the additions of the MLE and bi annual player.

Going for Dinwiddie is pretty much the same scenario as going for Lowry. Going for Porzingis for me is better then Lowry or Dinwiddie. I’ll take my chances matching Nunn and signing Rose to the MLE or splitting that with someone like McConnell and another player.

Brooklyn could be interested in a S&T with Dinwiddie for Dragic and Iguodala. Might have to take on DeAndre Jordan in a deal like that.

Dragic and Iggy is 35 mill dollars so your getting back more than just Lowry. Add Precious to the deal and your talking about 37.5 mill. Salary wise you can swing a deal getting Adams and Lowry.

Let me state this, Dragis has trade value. If you are a team trying to make a run next yr Dragic has great value. So does Iggy. That is why its important to trade him so you can add a better fit player.

I'm sure the Raptors knows this and are willing to get a trade asset to use to fill up their roster as well.

Then Nunn is also a trade chip as well. The Heat have a lot of options moving Iggy, Dragic, Precious and Nunn as trade chips. Then use the full 10 mill MLE to fill up the bench.
I am confident Heat are not going make moves as an under the cap team.

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Adams by himself makes 28 million . Your proposal gets us Lowry and Baynes. I have mentioned that in previous post. Lowry may even get the Heat to give him the 30 he really wants. The Raptors may be down with Achuiwa involved. The 37.4 makes even money work with Dragic,Iguodala, and Achuiwa as sweetner but for any S&T we have to go 3 years for Lowry.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/nba_rumors_kyle_lowry_wants_2_year_50_million_contract_in_2021_free_agency/s1_16751_34530710

This report says 2 year 50 but if you read the article it says he wants closer to 2 year 60. We can make that happen if both teams want to play ball. Mainly Heat having to give up Achuiwa while paying top dollar and going 3 years. I’d rather just toll the dice on Porzingis at that point. I’m not sure paying 30 mil to Lowry at age 38 is any worse then paying Porzingis 30 at 28.

I have to keep on reminding that if we sign Lowry with cap space for the 2 year 50 reported that means we have renounced everyone and that includes one of Nunn or Robinson. We would not have the opted in contracts of Dragic and Iguodala to trade.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Ariza and Iguodala at the 4 last year was ultimate poverty. You can’t fault Bam when that’s the help you give him in the front court. We need major front court additions next year. If Spo does not plan to play Achuiwa next year for any extended time with Bam then he needs to be traded. If you don’t plan to play rail thin Okpala at SF then trade him. Okpala does not have the build to be playing anywhere down low in NBA.

[twix2500]

No way you get Graham or Adams with either of those two. If Dragic and Iggy are to be used in trade that means we are working as a capped out team. Meaning they are needed to trade for Porzingis or a S&T Lowry.

The most we would have to spend from there is the MLE and Bi Annual. We would be able to match Nunn and Robinson if we want and offer over the cap deals with bird rights to Oladipo and Ariza. If we signed Lowry with cap space that means we have basically renounced everyone and have only the 4.7 room exception to sign an extra player.

If we sign Lowry to 23.7 million in cap space that means Nunn and Robinson get matched but little room for much else. It makes all the sense for us to operate as capped team. The very worst case scenario is everyone comes back with the additions of the MLE and bi annual player.

Going for Dinwiddie is pretty much the same scenario as going for Lowry. Going for Porzingis for me is better then Lowry or Dinwiddie. I’ll take my chances matching Nunn and signing Rose to the MLE or splitting that with someone like McConnell and another player.

Brooklyn could be interested in a S&T with Dinwiddie for Dragic and Iguodala. Might have to take on DeAndre Jordan in a deal like that.

Dragic and Iggy is 35 mill dollars so your getting back more than just Lowry. Add Precious to the deal and your talking about 37.5 mill. Salary wise you can swing a deal getting Adams and Lowry.

Let me state this, Dragis has trade value. If you are a team trying to make a run next yr Dragic has great value. So does Iggy. That is why its important to trade him so you can add a better fit player.

I'm sure the Raptors knows this and are willing to get a trade asset to use to fill up their roster as well.

Then Nunn is also a trade chip as well. The Heat have a lot of options moving Iggy, Dragic, Precious and Nunn as trade chips. Then use the full 10 mill MLE to fill up the bench.
I am confident Heat are not going make moves as an under the cap team.

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Adams by himself makes 28 million . Your proposal gets us Lowry and Baynes. I have mentioned that in previous post. Lowry may even get the Heat to give him the 30 he really wants. The Raptors may be down with Achuiwa involved. The 37.4 makes even money work with Dragic,Iguodala, and Achuiwa as sweetner but for any S&T we have to go 3 years for Lowry.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/nba_rumors_kyle_lowry_wants_2_year_50_million_contract_in_2021_free_agency/s1_16751_34530710

This report says 2 year 50 but if you read the article it says he wants closer to 2 year 60. We can make that happen if both teams want to play ball. Mainly Heat having to give up Achuiwa while paying top dollar and going 3 years. I’d rather just toll the dice on Porzingis at that point. I’m not sure paying 30 mil to Lowry at age 38 is any worse then paying Porzingis 30 at 28.

I have to keep on reminding that if we sign Lowry with cap space for the 2 year 50 reported that means we have renounced everyone and that includes one of Nunn or Robinson. We would not have the opted in contracts of Dragic and Iguodala to trade.

Steven Adams contract is 17 mill

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Dragic and Iggy is 35 mill dollars so your getting back more than just Lowry. Add Precious to the deal and your talking about 37.5 mill. Salary wise you can swing a deal getting Adams and Lowry.

Let me state this, Dragis has trade value. If you are a team trying to make a run next yr Dragic has great value. So does Iggy. That is why its important to trade him so you can add a better fit player.

I'm sure the Raptors knows this and are willing to get a trade asset to use to fill up their roster as well.

Then Nunn is also a trade chip as well. The Heat have a lot of options moving Iggy, Dragic, Precious and Nunn as trade chips. Then use the full 10 mill MLE to fill up the bench.
I am confident Heat are not going make moves as an under the cap team.

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Adams by himself makes 28 million . Your proposal gets us Lowry and Baynes. I have mentioned that in previous post. Lowry may even get the Heat to give him the 30 he really wants. The Raptors may be down with Achuiwa involved. The 37.4 makes even money work with Dragic,Iguodala, and Achuiwa as sweetner but for any S&T we have to go 3 years for Lowry.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/nba_rumors_kyle_lowry_wants_2_year_50_million_contract_in_2021_free_agency/s1_16751_34530710

This report says 2 year 50 but if you read the article it says he wants closer to 2 year 60. We can make that happen if both teams want to play ball. Mainly Heat having to give up Achuiwa while paying top dollar and going 3 years. I’d rather just toll the dice on Porzingis at that point. I’m not sure paying 30 mil to Lowry at age 38 is any worse then paying Porzingis 30 at 28.

I have to keep on reminding that if we sign Lowry with cap space for the 2 year 50 reported that means we have renounced everyone and that includes one of Nunn or Robinson. We would not have the opted in contracts of Dragic and Iguodala to trade.

Steven Adams contract is 17 mill

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You are correct. Trade checker has not updated extension figures of 2 yr 35 for upcoming year. Iguodala and Achuiwa can possibly get you Adams? Dragic and KZ will not be enough for Lowry. Also I don’t think the Heat should go the 3 years mandated for Lowry S&T.

[twix2500]

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[twix2500]

Adams by himself makes 28 million . Your proposal gets us Lowry and Baynes. I have mentioned that in previous post. Lowry may even get the Heat to give him the 30 he really wants. The Raptors may be down with Achuiwa involved. The 37.4 makes even money work with Dragic,Iguodala, and Achuiwa as sweetner but for any S&T we have to go 3 years for Lowry.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/nba_rumors_kyle_lowry_wants_2_year_50_million_contract_in_2021_free_agency/s1_16751_34530710

This report says 2 year 50 but if you read the article it says he wants closer to 2 year 60. We can make that happen if both teams want to play ball. Mainly Heat having to give up Achuiwa while paying top dollar and going 3 years. I’d rather just toll the dice on Porzingis at that point. I’m not sure paying 30 mil to Lowry at age 38 is any worse then paying Porzingis 30 at 28.

I have to keep on reminding that if we sign Lowry with cap space for the 2 year 50 reported that means we have renounced everyone and that includes one of Nunn or Robinson. We would not have the opted in contracts of Dragic and Iguodala to trade.

Steven Adams contract is 17 mill

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You are correct. Trade checker has not updated extension figures of 2 yr 35 for upcoming year. Iguodala and Achuiwa can possibly get you Adams? Dragic and KZ will not be enough for Lowry. Also I don’t think the Heat should go the 3 years mandated for Lowry S&T.

You make the move for Lowry, see what you get back in return with Lowry. Then evaluate how to get Adams. They may want a stretch center, maybe the Raptors give up Bayne, or a piece come from a 3rd team. Got to be creative.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

Steven Adams contract is 17 mill

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You are correct. Trade checker has not updated extension figures of 2 yr 35 for upcoming year. Iguodala and Achuiwa can possibly get you Adams? Dragic and KZ will not be enough for Lowry. Also I don’t think the Heat should go the 3 years mandated for Lowry S&T.

You make the move for Lowry, see what you get back in return with Lowry. Then evaluate how to get Adams. They may want a stretch center, maybe the Raptors give up Bayne, or a piece come from a 3rd team. Got to be creative.

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If they get Lowry i’m thinking they try to get Baynes as well. He fell out if favor in Toronto and they’ll be looking to move him. The MLE can be used to try to find a stretch 4/5 cause we’ll need the depth.

[IceColdCubano]

Ugh, please stop with the Lowry to Miami for many reasons I find this disturbing.
1. The cost to pick him up is not worth his value in a vacuum. At best we get a decent season and half, he is a Vet on his way downward in production.
2. Adding him alone does not move the needle and would require additional moves, and by moves I don't mean another complementary player, Lowry in this case is the complementary player we need a scoring guard/small forward.
3. As currently constructed we don't have the pieces to hang with the top 4 on either coast.

[DowJones]

Hey guys, Cavs fan here...

Would the Heat (fans) have any interest in a Sexton for Herro swap? Miami gets a young, scoring PG to replace Dragic and Cleveland gets an off-ball shooter--which we would need if we were to draft Green or make a trade for Simmons.

[RexBoyWonder]

I'm really not sure where this is headed.

We have a few good pieces, and a few huge holes.

We need Lowry or Dinwiddie. Nunn isn't a starting PG.

We also need a Pronzingis (super risky) or a Jerami Grant (super pricy) or a Christian Wood (super unproven) next to Bam. Precious/KZ aren't ready to start.

Don't care about bench right now, we need to add 1 of these PG's AND one of these bigs. Get a real starting 5, worry about bench later.

[RexBoyWonder]

Hey guys, Cavs fan here...

Would the Heat (fans) have any interest in a Sexton for Herro swap? Miami gets a young, scoring PG to replace Dragic and Cleveland gets an off-ball shooter--which we would need if we were to draft Green or make a trade for Simmons.

I think I would. Sex is a Heat type warrior, not the most talented but plays hard on both ends. He's also more ready to win now.

Not sure Herro is the best fit next to Garland..

[Dr_Heat]

Hey guys, Cavs fan here...

Would the Heat (fans) have any interest in a Sexton for Herro swap? Miami gets a young, scoring PG to replace Dragic and Cleveland gets an off-ball shooter--which we would need if we were to draft Green or make a trade for Simmons.

I think I would. Sex is a Heat type warrior, not the most talented but plays hard on both ends. He's also more ready to win now.

Not sure Herro is the best fit next to Garland..

Yea I like Sex too

[RexBoyWonder]

Hey guys, Cavs fan here...

Would the Heat (fans) have any interest in a Sexton for Herro swap? Miami gets a young, scoring PG to replace Dragic and Cleveland gets an off-ball shooter--which we would need if we were to draft Green or make a trade for Simmons.

I think I would. Sex is a Heat type warrior, not the most talented but plays hard on both ends. He's also more ready to win now.

Not sure Herro is the best fit next to Garland..

Yea I like Sex too

i suspect it has something to do with buttholes?

[heater4life]

At least we're not the Sixers.

Losing to hairy lollypop as the 1 seed must sting.

I see your hairy lollypop and I raise you a waxy q-tip after a fresh haircut.

Seriously guys? I’m trying to eat. SMH

48/11/7

Impressive

[MettaWorldPanda]

Hey guys, Cavs fan here...

Would the Heat (fans) have any interest in a Sexton for Herro swap? Miami gets a young, scoring PG to replace Dragic and Cleveland gets an off-ball shooter--which we would need if we were to draft Green or make a trade for Simmons.

Without question. Sign me up for Herro and Sexton swap. Great trade proposal.