Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

Post #481 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:07 pm

We appear to bet set at the GM and Coaching position so now we can proceed forward and hope for a productive free agency and draft.

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dirkforpres · Post #482 » by **dirkforpres** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:21 pm

HMFFL wrote:We appear to bet set at the GM and Coaching position so now we can proceed forward and hope for a productive free agency and draft.

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An upcoming draft where we have no picks and a free agency with no money to spend (after Hardaway) and an epic history of failures that hangs over this franchise.

Unless Finley and Harrison are some underground genius negotiators, Dallas is completely screwed going into next season

BlazersBroncos · Post #483 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:30 pm

Probably too much 'what have you done for me lately' type thinking but a shooter of Reggie Jackson's caliber would be pretty great next to Luka. And he can distribute just enough.

fuller4379 · Post #484 » by **fuller4379** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:12 pm

It will be hard to make a splash this year, but I have a feeling the Mavs will find a way. We have about $24 million to spend ($34 if we can get JRich to opt opt.)

1. Do we keep THJ? If not, what are the real alternatives in free agency for that $20 million? The free agency class is weak. We don't have a lot of options here.

2. Trading. We really don't have any real assets to trade. KP would be selling very low. We can trade first round picks in 2025 and (2027 I think) if we take the protections off the NY pick. Maybe someone makes a stink, and his agent facilitates a trade to Dallas.

3. Draft. We have no picks. Maybe we buy a second round pick from a pick rich team like Oklahoma City. OKC doesn't need four picks this year. A second round pick isn't going to net us much though but a project player who not be in the NBA for two years.

JD45 · Post #485 » by **JD45** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:41 pm

There is really no telling what random s**t they are going to do now.

We really are depending on Gambling Guy to be the voice of reason and analysis.

BigO · Post #486 » by **BigO** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:22 pm

Kidd was the worst coach the bucks ever had. He was hired, not by the GM, but by the owner, who was a friend of Kidds. Like most things in life, hires are made by contacts, not merit.

Kidd was horrible in almost every aspect of coaching and certainly was not a great communicator. Ironically, his coaching instincts were really bad. His defensive schemes were laughable, but he relied on a really bad young assistant to do all his schemes on defense.

Having knowledgeable assistants he can rely on will be important. I don't see this as a good hire. But if he can attract free agents, then its worth it.

Mr B · Post #487 » by **Mr B** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:53 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
HMFFL wrote:We appear to bet set at the GM and Coaching position so now we can proceed forward and hope for a productive free agency and draft.

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An upcoming draft where we have no picks and a free agency with no money to spend (after Hardaway) and an epic history of failures that hangs over this franchise.

Unless Finley and Harrison are some underground genius negotiators, Dallas is completely screwed going into next season

Doesn’t take a genius to do some maneuvering. Let the guys work before giving up on the team. Let’s see what these guys can do.

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JJP · Post #488 » by **JJP** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:54 pm

Nico Harrison has now been hired as GM. Kidd is the Head Coach. Finley is.... something.

Mr B · Post #489 » by **Mr B** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:56 pm

fuller4379 wrote:It will be hard to make a splash this year, but I have a feeling the Mavs will find a way. We have about $24 million to spend ($34 if we can get JRich to opt opt.)

1. Do we keep THJ? If not, what are the real alternatives in free agency for that $20 million? The free agency class is weak. We don't have a lot of options here.

2. Trading. We really don't have any real assets to trade. KP would be selling very low. We can trade first round picks in 2025 and (2027 I think) if we take the protections off the NY pick. Maybe someone makes a stink, and his agent facilitates a trade to Dallas.

3. Draft. We have no picks. Maybe we buy a second round pick from a pick rich team like Oklahoma City. OKC doesn't need four picks this year. A second round pick isn't going to net us much though but a project player who not be in the NBA for two years.

Personally I’d like to see them target Kyle Lowry and Richaun Holmes with the cap space. Use MLE to sign Markkanen or another shooter (Fournier?).

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Mr B · Post #490 » by **Mr B** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:56 pm

JD45 wrote:There is really no telling what random s**t they are going to do now.

We really are depending on Gambling Guy to be the voice of reason and analysis.

Is he even still with the team?

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Mr B · Post #491 » by **Mr B** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:58 pm

BigO wrote:Kidd was the worst coach the bucks ever had. He was hired, not by the GM, but by the owner, who was a friend of Kidds. Like most things in life, hires are made by contacts, not merit.

Kidd was horrible in almost every aspect of coaching and certainly was not a great communicator. Ironically, his coaching instincts were really bad. His defensive schemes were laughable, but he relied on a really bad young assistant to do all his schemes on defense.

Having knowledgeable assistants he can rely on will be important. I don't see this as a good hire. But if he can attract free agents, then its worth it.

Funny that Giannis still loved the guy and was upset when he was fired. Very strange. Also very strange that he was Dame’s choice to be the Blazers new coach. Again very strange.

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Mr B · Post #492 » by **Mr B** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 5:59 pm

JJP wrote:Nico Harrison has now been hired as GM. Kidd is the Head Coach. Finley is.... something.

Finley is President of Basketball Operations now very likely.

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soxperry · Post #493 » by **soxperry** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:40 pm

Mr B wrote:
BigO wrote:Kidd was the worst coach the bucks ever had. He was hired, not by the GM, but by the owner, who was a friend of Kidds. Like most things in life, hires are made by contacts, not merit.

Kidd was horrible in almost every aspect of coaching and certainly was not a great communicator. Ironically, his coaching instincts were really bad. His defensive schemes were laughable, but he relied on a really bad young assistant to do all his schemes on defense.

Having knowledgeable assistants he can rely on will be important. I don't see this as a good hire. But if he can attract free agents, then its worth it.

Funny that Giannis still loved the guy and was upset when he was fired. Very strange. Also very strange that he was Dame’s choice to be the Blazers new coach. Again very strange.

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The cognitive dissonance you are almost certainly experiencing requires you to say that. Players are good at playing, not at being GMs. Kidd was terrible.

JJP · Post #494 » by **JJP** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:18 pm

soxperry wrote:The cognitive dissonance you are almost certainly experiencing requires you to say that. Players are good at playing, not at being GMs. Kidd was terrible.

Kidd was not my choice, but having a Bucks fan whine on a Mavs message board is pretty sad.

Post #495 » by **HMFFL** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:02 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
HMFFL wrote:We appear to bet set at the GM and Coaching position so now we can proceed forward and hope for a productive free agency and draft.

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An upcoming draft where we have no picks and a free agency with no money to spend (after Hardaway) and an epic history of failures that hangs over this franchise.

Unless Finley and Harrison are some underground genius negotiators, Dallas is completely screwed going into next season

I remember a handful of talent being available we failed to pursue any. Kevin Porter Jr being one of them. I wonder if management even had goals in the past.

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Mr B · Post #496 » by **Mr B** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:10 pm

JJP wrote:
soxperry wrote:The cognitive dissonance you are almost certainly experiencing requires you to say that. Players are good at playing, not at being GMs. Kidd was terrible.

Kidd was not my choice, but having a Bucks fan whine on a Mavs message board is pretty sad.

Pathetic actually

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Archx · Post #497 » by **Archx** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:59 pm

Apparently Cuban doesn't see KP as Doncic's nr2 option anymore, so Mavs are going to look for that type of player in the off season. They already had Curry who could do a lot of dmg even from the bench but they messed it up. I don't know how they will find a "star" just like that without trading KP and at the same time trying to keep THJ.

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DJ_3_Ball · Post #498 » by **DJ_3_Ball** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:23 pm

This is interesting. Coming along side a tweet today from NBA Central that says "There is a palpable sense of urgency coming from Lillard’s camp. Lillard wants to win big, and he wants to do it now."

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agentofatlas · Post #499 » by **agentofatlas** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:47 pm

DJ_3_Ball wrote:This is interesting. Coming along side a tweet today from NBA Central that says "There is a palpable sense of urgency coming from Lillard’s camp. Lillard wants to win big, and he wants to do it now."

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Is the fanbase really trying to talk themselves that they're getting Dame?

JD45 · Post #500 » by **JD45** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:57 pm

Lillard would be great, but I can't see what the Mavs could trade for him. I am sure the Blazers would consider Luka and who knows what the jokers in charge might do, so I guess its possible.