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Eddy_JukeZ wrote:What is CP3's legacy if the Suns blow this 3-1 lead and he continues his rather poor play?
Doctor MJ wrote:The way Deandre Ayton talks about Paul, this is something new that Paul is being able to show. He's had partners before, but this feels genuinely warm and fuzzy.
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:Joey, it's time for you to eat some crow about Phoenix being a level above everyone in the West besides a healthy Lakers team.
You said they'd win this in 5 or even sweep the Clippers.
After 5 games, the Clippers have easily been the better team.
falcolombardi wrote:the amount of narratives and hot takes that will go off i clippers make the comeback is wild, and most of them wont be positive
Paul george, ty lue, kawhi, westbrook, doc Rivers, chris paul will all catch heat or "redeem" themselves in the eyes of the mainstream public (pg 13 and ty lue rep will go through the roof, all others will catch flack directly or indirectly, and mostly unfairly)
Doctor MJ wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:Paul George and Reggie Jackson are having themselves a playoffs. Reggie might be pricing himself right out of town even and who had that when the playoffs began? Luka eating PatBev alive for 2 games made Lue give him a chance and he's done nothing but produce since. Been a vital 2nd scorer with Kawhi out and no team has figured out how to punish him at the other end.
I don't think Ballmer's Clippers are going to cheap out. Are you thinking they'll be able to get a better option for cheaper elsewhere?
Looking at a list of point guard free agents this summer, considering guys close to Kawhi/PG's age, Reggie Jackson is the guy I think I'd want even if I were another team, but for the Clippers where he's already established (in part because PG was buds with him in the first place)? He's kind of the obvious choice now.
If you think the Clippers will want to bring in one of the big name older point guards instead, I think that's understandable, but to me the Clippers will be grateful to get Reggie back unless they have someone else they particularly want.
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:What is CP3's legacy if the Suns blow this 3-1 lead and he continues his rather poor play?
GSP wrote:Eddy_JukeZ wrote:What is CP3's legacy if the Suns blow this 3-1 lead and he continues his rather poor play?
Jesus can you imagine? Thatd be the final nail specially considering they were 2-0 without him this series.....I think hed be the only player that blow more than 1 3-1 lead too at that point.
Mos_Heat wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:Paul George and Reggie Jackson are having themselves a playoffs. Reggie might be pricing himself right out of town even and who had that when the playoffs began? Luka eating PatBev alive for 2 games made Lue give him a chance and he's done nothing but produce since. Been a vital 2nd scorer with Kawhi out and no team has figured out how to punish him at the other end.
I don't think Ballmer's Clippers are going to cheap out. Are you thinking they'll be able to get a better option for cheaper elsewhere?
Looking at a list of point guard free agents this summer, considering guys close to Kawhi/PG's age, Reggie Jackson is the guy I think I'd want even if I were another team, but for the Clippers where he's already established (in part because PG was buds with him in the first place)? He's kind of the obvious choice now.
If you think the Clippers will want to bring in one of the big name older point guards instead, I think that's understandable, but to me the Clippers will be grateful to get Reggie back unless they have someone else they particularly want.
Do they even have early Bird's on him though? I don't think they can give him more than tax MLE
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Statlanta wrote:I can't help but feel that Russell Westbrook's legacy(Reggie Jackson, Cameron Payne, Patrick Beverley, Paul George, Chris Paul) is intrinsically tied to this series outcome.
falcolombardi wrote:i am firmly in the camp that a 36 years old player wont damage his "legacy" either way. anythingh by that are is extra credit
sansterre wrote:The success of a star's season is:
Individual performance + Teammate performance - Opposition +/- Luck
Texas Chuck wrote:Mos_Heat wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:
I don't think Ballmer's Clippers are going to cheap out. Are you thinking they'll be able to get a better option for cheaper elsewhere?
Looking at a list of point guard free agents this summer, considering guys close to Kawhi/PG's age, Reggie Jackson is the guy I think I'd want even if I were another team, but for the Clippers where he's already established (in part because PG was buds with him in the first place)? He's kind of the obvious choice now.
If you think the Clippers will want to bring in one of the big name older point guards instead, I think that's understandable, but to me the Clippers will be grateful to get Reggie back unless they have someone else they particularly want.
Do they even have early Bird's on him though? I don't think they can give him more than tax MLE
They have early Bird's so they can pay him $10M(league average). Teams like the Knicks and Bulls who are desperate for a PG might go a couple mill above that to price out the Clippers and considering he's played for the min for a couple years and isn't getting younger he might well choose a money grab.
It's not me saying Ballmer wouldn't pay him, I absolutely think he would. It's that league rules might keep them from being competitive.
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bondom34 wrote:The longer I follow the NBA and any social media the dumber I realize the discourse really is.
Ultimately legacy is whatever is believed about a particular player and in many ways unrelated to how well or poorly they actually played. It's all a fun story people tell to create something from nothing. Players don't damage anything by losing at some point in their career when they've proven so much, Lebron's career wasn't damaged by losing in the first round this year, Curry's wasn't by missing the playoffs, etc. Any player who's playing at this high a level has proven themselves and its all about a story people want to create to entertain themselves.
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Texas Chuck wrote:bondom34 wrote:The longer I follow the NBA and any social media the dumber I realize the discourse really is.
Ultimately legacy is whatever is believed about a particular player and in many ways unrelated to how well or poorly they actually played. It's all a fun story people tell to create something from nothing. Players don't damage anything by losing at some point in their career when they've proven so much, Lebron's career wasn't damaged by losing in the first round this year, Curry's wasn't by missing the playoffs, etc. Any player who's playing at this high a level has proven themselves and its all about a story people want to create to entertain themselves.
Yep. Dirk always had the best response when he was still playing and people asked him about his legacy---I don't worry about all that, I just play hard and try and help my team win and when I'm done I can enjoy a beer and think about it then. Nothing to be gained in worrying if he was the best Euro ever or best Mav ever(both trivially easy yeses) or if he was top 20 or top 15 or whatever.
And while 2011 changed his for a lot of people, many of us already knew what he was.