NBA Finals: (2) Suns vs (3) Bucks, Part 1 | Suns lead 2-0

OmniStrife · Post #81 » by **OmniStrife** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:53 am

Suns in 6. HCA, much better coaching, healthier, CP3 in the series of his life.

Tomjas · Post #82 » by **Tomjas** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:53 am

Bucks have looked pretty good without Giannis

It’s going to be a competitive series as the Bucks defence is much better than any team the Suns have faced

OmniStrife · Post #83 » by **OmniStrife** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:58 am

Tomjas wrote:Bucks have looked pretty good without Giannis

It’s going to be a competitive series as the Bucks defence is much better than any team the Suns have faced

Clippers D is just as good imo even wo kawhi

Bmaasse · Post #84 » by **Bmaasse** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:59 am

hyper316 wrote:Serious question, is Giannis holding back the Bucks?

He kills ball movement, liability on the ft line.

I know it's not a popular take, but Giannis should really stick to post game and pnr. Take the ball out of his hands, he's not a number 1 guy

No, because normally his supporting cast shoots much better from the perimeter than they have been in the playoffs this year. When everybody is bricking shots, he feels the need to try to take over. When the 3s are falling, they are the highest scoring team in the league.

Slim Charless · Post #85 » by **Slim Charless** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 9:04 am

OmniStrife wrote:Suns in 6. HCA, much better coaching, healthier, CP3 in the series of his life.

I think DA is taking that Final MVP.

collidingNeurons · Post #86 » by **collidingNeurons** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 9:33 am

I think people are under estimating the bucks with or without Giannis, Jrue has always played well against Booker and Lopez is a very under rated defensive player against bigs and could frustrate Ayton.. Middleton is inconsistent but when he is on he is a problem and Portis has been playing well since Giannis went down, Being a Suns fan i am not objective but i think depth and chemistry are both positives for the Suns and they have CP3 so i see this series as a toss up and maybe the Bucks as slight favorites if Giannis is mostly healthy which would be a bit miraculous and maybe somewhat unrealistic. Both teams have gritty and decent defenders so wouldn't be shocked if there was some hostility and chippyness at some point when they get sick of each other

DutchManDanFan · Post #87 » by **DutchManDanFan** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 9:36 am

garrick wrote:The only way the Bucks win is if they have Middleton score out of his mind each game but you just don't know which version of him you're getting from game to game.

He might have 6 points one game and 30 the next.

Bucks are 9-0 in the play-offs when he shoots over 40%.

AtheJ415 · Post #88 » by **AtheJ415** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:06 am

Suns in 4

Johnny Tomala · Post #89 » by **Johnny Tomala** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:11 am

Suns in 6.

WestbrookGOATed · Post #90 » by **WestbrookGOATed** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:14 am

Suns in 7 I think. But I'm just hoping for a good series. What a refreshing finals.

Ursusamericanus · Post #91 » by **Ursusamericanus** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:24 am

First finals in while where I'd be happy irrespective of the outcome. I think with Giannis being gimpy, the logical pick is Suns in 6. This is a legacy series for CP3 and he'll play his heart out and probably win FMVP. And Booker and Ayton should come up big too.

starbosa10 · Post #92 » by **starbosa10** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:46 am

Suns in 6. We win our home games and get 1 in Milwaukee. Should be a great matchup! Hope Giannis is healthy, our other games against them this season were great games

Sicnarf · Post #93 » by **Sicnarf** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:52 am

I think some people are underestimating the Bucks right now... so I go with them in 6, but can see any of them winning the chip TBH...

DutchManDanFan · Post #94 » by **DutchManDanFan** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:05 am

HotRocks34 wrote:Suns the favorite in the series. Chris Paul the favorite to win FMVP:

Final MVP odds:

Paul +150
Giannis +200
Booker +275
Middleton +800
Ayton +1800
Holiday +2200

Wow, interesting odds for Khris.

DutchManDanFan · Post #95 » by **DutchManDanFan** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:10 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Even if Giannis plays, you guys really think he will be close to 100%? I feel like people are discounting that fact.

He hurt his knee bad. Weve already seen what guys look like when rushing back from injury. Harden, Trae Young etc.

I would expect a 50% Giannis at best. He might hurt more than help them.

Good points. The Bucks might not be in the finals if Harden and Young didn't play again after their injury.

Saberestar · Post #96 » by **Saberestar** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:23 am

garrick wrote:The only way the Bucks win is if they have Middleton score out of his mind each game but you just don't know which version of him you're getting from game to game.

He might have 6 points one game and 30 the next.

I do not know why you have that idea about Middleton.

He has not scored less than 13 points in the playoffs and he is pretty solid putting big numbers on every game.

He usually plays really well against the Suns. He is gonna be a problem.

ReKon · Post #97 » by **ReKon** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:35 am

Regardless of the end result, I believe how the Bucks play will dictate how the finals go.

I think we have a frontcourt depth advantage, especially since the only big other than Ayton that the Suns have is Saric. If we decide to punish the Suns in the paint, similarly to what we did with Atlanta we can do it anytime we want. Mikal and Crowder are good perimeter wings and they will give Giannis issues if he starts driving to the basket but close to the basket he should be nearly unstoppable if he ends up playing. Same for Brook really.

Jrue vs CP3 and Booker vs Midds are good matchups as well. I expect a dogfight in both ends of the court.

If our game plan is to start shooting and bricking threes and play that awful defence we decided to play against Atlanta in game 1 then this could be a quick series. Either way I see us losing game 1 as it seems that instead of film we are watching Netflix in the film room against all our opponents and then adjust midway through game 3 really.

I think this goes to 7. Phoenix might have the home court advantage but we seem to be doing well when it comes to closing a series away from home.

More than anything, it's so exciting to have two small market non-superteams playing in the finals.

Post #98 » by **Mavrelous** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:47 am

darmani wrote:The Suns have better starters at every position, deeper bench and a much better coach. It's gonna be easier than the Nuggets in the 2nd round. Suns in fo'.

Crowder/Bridges are better than Giannis/Middleton? No way! Ayton is very promising but is he better right now than this version of Lopez? I'm not sure.

darmani · Post #99 » by **darmani** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 12:00 pm

KhalilS wrote:
darmani wrote:The Suns have better starters at every position, deeper bench and a much better coach. It's gonna be easier than the Nuggets in the 2nd round. Suns in fo'.

Crowder/Bridges are better than Giannis/Middleton? No way! Ayton is very promising but is he better right now than this version of Lopez? I'm not sure.

Middleton is a SG and Giannis is not playing. Ayton is several tiers above Lopez.

DCasey91 · Post #100 » by **DCasey91** » Sun Jul 4, 2021 12:11 pm

Suns have been sticking it to playoff teams all year long.

Best performing and most balanced team for me.

Even without CP3 I still favour the Giannis less Bucks.

You’re going into it with Holiday and Middleton.

Booker is a cold cold man. And Ayton is going to feast so much it’s not funny.

(Also Bucks have the worst coach between the two)

Suns have HCA.

Suns 4-1 or 4-2.

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