NBA Finals: Milwaukee Bucks vs. Phoenix Suns, Part 2 | Series tied at 2

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The 2021 NBA champion will be...

Bucks in 6
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Bucks in 7
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Suns in 5
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Suns in 6
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Suns in 7
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Re: NBA Finals: Milwaukee Bucks vs. Phoenix Suns, Part 2 | Suns lead 2-0 

Post#41 » by hege53190 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:38 am

Jagic Mohnson wrote:Why did Bucks coach call a timeout with Bucks leadin 14-9. They had all the momentum and he calls a timeout for no reason. It went downhill after that. Never take your foot off the pedal. use it only whe your team is making dumb plays over and over.


If I remember correctly Giannis was walking up the court after a dunk. I don't know if people are watching but the Bucks really have 4 playable players and 3 guys that they hope aren't to big of liabilities. And 2 of the 4 playable players forgot to show up and one is playing on a knee that was hyperextended 10 days ago that most people would have blown out their ACL.

It would be nice to call timeouts just for momentum but the realities of coaching are much different.
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Post#42 » by sunsbg » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:47 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Game 3 is a must-win for Milwaukee. I should post my own Captian obvious here.

The simple fact is that the Bucks have to win 4 out of 5 games from here forward to win a championship. Is that realistic?


Hmm, winning 4 out of 5 to win the series, is it realistic? It only happened, what 3 or 4 other times in these very playoffs? Lol


Suns lost to the Rockets in '94 and '95 after leading 2:0 and 3:1 respectively in years they most likely win the title going past the Rockets. It's perfectly realistic. It's just two games won on home court. If they make it 3:0 then I can see the Bucks wave the white flag.
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Post#43 » by skones » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:00 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Game 3 is a must-win for Milwaukee. I should post my own Captian obvious here.

The simple fact is that the Bucks have to win 4 out of 5 games from here forward to win a championship. Is that realistic?


Hmm, winning 4 out of 5 to win the series, is it realistic? It only happened, what 3 or 4 other times in these very playoffs? Lol


The Bucks have already done it this postseason and the Clippers did it twice, so yes. Nobody has won on the road yet.
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Post#44 » by skones » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:02 am

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jredsaz wrote:Seriously? You really don't know that home court advantage is included in point spreads?

Here is another one. Role players play better at home than on the road, generally. Maybe that will help Jrue make a bucket in game three.

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It's literally a 4 point spread. You're the one who was just telling me you're not sure why going home would matter because the Suns are so good on the road and now you're explaining to me how home court advantage works? What are you even talking about?
Lol. Seriously? I said I didn't think that Bucks at home would change the shape of the series. Never said it wouldn't have any impact. But keep hovering. Bucks in 7. Lol

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Yes seriously. You legitimately just threw out 10 points as if that number meant something.
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Post#45 » by Onlytimewilltel » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:35 am

sunsbg wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Game 3 is a must-win for Milwaukee. I should post my own Captian obvious here.

The simple fact is that the Bucks have to win 4 out of 5 games from here forward to win a championship. Is that realistic?


Hmm, winning 4 out of 5 to win the series, is it realistic? It only happened, what 3 or 4 other times in these very playoffs? Lol


Suns lost to the Rockets in '94 and '95 after leading 2:0 and 3:1 respectively in years they most likely win the title going past the Rockets. It's perfectly realistic. It's just two games won on home court. If they make it 3:0 then I can see the Bucks wave the white flag.


Yes quite obviously I’m saying the same thing you are. I’m responding to a question doubting how realistic it is and stating that it already happened a few times in these very playoffs.
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Post#46 » by Onlytimewilltel » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:36 am

skones wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:Game 3 is a must-win for Milwaukee. I should post my own Captian obvious here.

The simple fact is that the Bucks have to win 4 out of 5 games from here forward to win a championship. Is that realistic?


Hmm, winning 4 out of 5 to win the series, is it realistic? It only happened, what 3 or 4 other times in these very playoffs? Lol


The Bucks have already done it this postseason and the Clippers did it twice, so yes. Nobody has won on the road yet.


I’m saying the same thing you are….
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Post#47 » by skones » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:49 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
skones wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Hmm, winning 4 out of 5 to win the series, is it realistic? It only happened, what 3 or 4 other times in these very playoffs? Lol


The Bucks have already done it this postseason and the Clippers did it twice, so yes. Nobody has won on the road yet.


I’m saying the same thing you are….


I know. I thought I was responding directly to the initial poster who asked if it was realistic. Just clicked the wrong one I guess.
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Post#48 » by jredsaz » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:50 am

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skones wrote:
It's literally a 4 point spread. You're the one who was just telling me you're not sure why going home would matter because the Suns are so good on the road and now you're explaining to me how home court advantage works? What are you even talking about?
Lol. Seriously? I said I didn't think that Bucks at home would change the shape of the series. Never said it wouldn't have any impact. But keep hovering. Bucks in 7. Lol

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Yes seriously. You legitimately just threw out 10 points as if that number meant something.
Its how much the Suns beat the Bucks by in Game 2. That was the point. Home court advantage isnt going to cut the deficit all the way.

Regardless, I would bet on a split in Milwaukee. You clearly seeing it go 2-2. Best of luck.

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Post#49 » by skones » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:54 am

jredsaz wrote:
skones wrote:
jredsaz wrote:Lol. Seriously? I said I didn't think that Bucks at home would change the shape of the series. Never said it wouldn't have any impact. But keep hovering. Bucks in 7. Lol

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Yes seriously. You legitimately just threw out 10 points as if that number meant something.
Its how much the Suns beat the Bucks by in Game 2. That was the point. Home court advantage isnt going to cut the deficit all the way.

Regardless, I would bet on a split in Milwaukee. You clearly seeing it go 2-2. Best of luck.

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Lol, that's what I thought and that's why I told you that that's not how basketball works. Deficits are not uniform. It ignores everything that actually happened in the game. They don't need to cut a deficit, the game literally starts at 0-0. And you were asking me if I'm serious? I'd hate to break it to you, but the Suns aren't invincible.
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Post#50 » by sunsbg » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:08 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
sunsbg wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Hmm, winning 4 out of 5 to win the series, is it realistic? It only happened, what 3 or 4 other times in these very playoffs? Lol


Suns lost to the Rockets in '94 and '95 after leading 2:0 and 3:1 respectively in years they most likely win the title going past the Rockets. It's perfectly realistic. It's just two games won on home court. If they make it 3:0 then I can see the Bucks wave the white flag.


Yes quite obviously I’m saying the same thing you are. I’m responding to a question doubting how realistic it is and stating that it already happened a few times in these very playoffs.


Obviously I'm agreeing with you.
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Post#51 » by Luke Skyowner » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:28 am

Personally rooting for Giannis but Suns winning would be very good for basketball, as it shows team basketball is right vision to have. Rooting for Bucks is mostly desperately waiting for Middleton to give you that one crazy quarter. That is possibility and would win you a game if Giannis is staying consistent but it feels like fools gold. Best of the best should have something to fall back to when 2nd-4th guys(ala Bosh/Allen) is cold.

It should be Bucks defence but as long as Jrue(should be their best perimeter defender) is giving up easy shots, by not bother to fight through screen- he should have been benched for that really in earlier rounds, for one game to get the point across- they don´t have much of a chance, home whistle or not.

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Post#52 » by Mrakar » Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:17 am

Before game 2 i wrote that Bucks need to make this adjustments:
- play Holiday in post against Paul
- play Lopez minutes where Ayton or Paul are off the floor
- do quick doubles when Paul and especially Booker are with the ball on the side
- fight trough soft screens and not allow easy switches
- Don't play Jeff Teague at any cost

1st one they did, but not nearly as enough. Holiday had 4 easy points in 4th playing against Paul in post but they need more off that and especially early in the game.
2nd one was partially implemented, Brook was quite good this game so i was fine with that.
3rd one they didn't even try, im still not sure why
4th one they did and it was much better, but there was still quite many easy switches on soft or fake screens which is something i can't process in my head...
5th one.... no comment.

So they still have quite a bit adjustments/improvments to made in next game. Also role players and streaky shooters play much better in front of the home crowd so i expect better preformance from Holiday/Middleton/Tucker/Connaughton and im waiting for "hot game" from Forbes.

I expect Bucks to win game 3 and than we have a series.
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Post#53 » by KGtabake » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:29 pm

It's a 7 game series. Even if it goes 3-1 or sth, it still goes in 7.
Suns are legit. Bucks are tested in the playoffs this season. They can and they will come back.
It will be a great Finals series as long as injuries are over.
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Post#54 » by DS17 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:49 pm

Luke Skyowner wrote:Personally rooting for Giannis but Suns winning would be very good for basketball, as it shows team basketball is right vision to have. Rooting for Bucks is mostly desperately waiting for Middleton to give you that one crazy quarter. That is possibility and would win you a game if Giannis is staying consistent but it feels like fools gold. Best of the best should have something to fall back to when 2nd-4th guys(ala Bosh/Allen) is cold.

It should be Bucks defence but as long as Jrue(should be their best perimeter defender) is giving up easy shots, by not bother to fight through screen- he should have been benched for that really in earlier rounds, for one game to get the point across- they don´t have much of a chance, home whistle or not.

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Post#56 » by jredsaz » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:19 pm

skones wrote:
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Yes seriously. You legitimately just threw out 10 points as if that number meant something.
Its how much the Suns beat the Bucks by in Game 2. That was the point. Home court advantage isnt going to cut the deficit all the way.

Regardless, I would bet on a split in Milwaukee. You clearly seeing it go 2-2. Best of luck.

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Lol, that's what I thought and that's why I told you that that's not how basketball works. Deficits are not uniform. It ignores everything that actually happened in the game. They don't need to cut a deficit, the game literally starts at 0-0. And you were asking me if I'm serious? I'd hate to break it to you, but the Suns aren't invincible.


No, they aren't. They will probably lose a game in Milwaukee. Probably game 3.

13 and 10 point wins with pretty consistent double digit leads through the fourth quarters of both games is pretty uniform. Home court changing isnt going to erase that. Games will be closer. Suns will get one - most likely because of free throw shooting.

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Post#57 » by skones » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:11 pm

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No, they aren't. They will probably lose a game in Milwaukee. Probably game 3.

13 and 10 point wins with pretty consistent double digit leads through the fourth quarters of both games is pretty uniform. Home court changing isnt going to erase that. Games will be closer. Suns will get one - most likely because of free throw shooting.

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Post#58 » by jredsaz » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:31 pm

skones wrote:
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No, they aren't. They will probably lose a game in Milwaukee. Probably game 3.

13 and 10 point wins with pretty consistent double digit leads through the fourth quarters of both games is pretty uniform. Home court changing isnt going to erase that. Games will be closer. Suns will get one - most likely because of free throw shooting.

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Post#59 » by marley game » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:33 pm

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Post#60 » by skones » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:34 pm

jredsaz wrote:
skones wrote:
jredsaz wrote:
No, they aren't. They will probably lose a game in Milwaukee. Probably game 3.

13 and 10 point wins with pretty consistent double digit leads through the fourth quarters of both games is pretty uniform. Home court changing isnt going to erase that. Games will be closer. Suns will get one - most likely because of free throw shooting.

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