billy_hoyle wrote:PrinceAli wrote:billy_hoyle wrote:
Were any of those guys overpaid on their first contracts (their RFA contracts)? These guys were all stars or fringe all stars on those deals.
I think J Allen could get 15-20mil as an RFA.
I don't see $25m a year, def not $30m. That's ridiculous.
If you are the Cavs, and you draft Mobley, that might be too much money tied up in the C position (projected, as obviously Mobley will only make 3rd overall money the first few years). That's my opinion based on their roster construction, and also a guess as to their unique team financial situation.
I think they have trouble selling out, probably don't have a large fan base (relative to the rest of NBA markets) which means they don't make a lot of TV money. Probably best to stay under the luxury tax, which would be tough to do paying 2 big money centers.
You might be in for a surprise. 23 year olds like him typically get overpaid when they hit RFA since teams try to poach them away. Worst case for them, the other team gets forced into matching an overpay. Otherwise the team gets to steal a young player from another team, even if it takes an overpay
If we hadn’t extended OG and let him test the market he would’ve easily gotten a massive offer from some team too
Allen Crabbe got 19 million as an RFA and he’s not even close to JAs level as a player
So, you think JA is getting $30m.
Ummm. Ibaka just signed for ~10m. When that's available, why sign JA for 3x that?
The Allen Crabbe 19m IS the overpay for JA. Personally, I wouldn't want to pay JA more than $12m based on what other 5's of similiar skill sets get on the market. That's in general, our unique situation might make me offer more.
If the raps draft Suggs, let Lowry walk and sign GTJ after signing JA to our cap space, I would consider that a reasonable team building signing.
We are one of the only teams that could do that, where we have a gaping hole at the 5, the other positions accounted for, and enough flex to offer 18ish m.
Can you name another team in a similar position? Dallas?
When Crabbe got his offer sheet it was a perfect storm. Brooklyn was just trying to get anyone young because they had already traded all their 1sts to Boston. It was their only way to add young talent, and they had alot of cap.
Most teams haven't traded their future, while also having alot of cap room.
You guys got to remember that Crabbe deal came when the NBA Had that Huge TV Deal and average players were getting outlandish contracts that offseason.....Everyone was getting ridiculous contracts and that shortly stopped the following year so i wouldnt really count that