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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#441 » by nedleeds » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:55 pm

F N 11 wrote:RJ and Randle waiting to get the ball from Sexton :lol: I could see it now, Sexton being highest paid and Randle not giving the ball up.

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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#442 » by F N 11 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:55 pm

RJ trying to get a shot from Sexton and Randle.

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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#443 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:55 pm

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BugginOut wrote:Not saying Obi is going to be a superstar.

But he put up 13 points per36 on 57% TS% and consistently got better on both ends of the floor throughout the season (having a little breakout in the playoffs)

Obi isn’t Frank or Knox. I’m not against trading him for Sexton, but we shouldn’t use him just as a throw in when he has definitely shown potential.


Obi would be the centerpiece of the trade going to the Cavs. That’s far from being considered a throw in. Most are fine with him going because:

1. He won’t get opportunity here with Randle being the clear #1 PF
2. We get a younger player with star potential that can take us to the next step


This.. you have to give up something to get something. We always pitch our garbage and think that's going to get us a good player but that's not how this works. I think Obi is going to be solid player and showed some serious flashes the last two months of the season but he's never going to have an opportunity here cuz of Randle's emergence. I'd rather cash him in for someone with more upside in a position of need.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#444 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:56 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:The same people who don’t want Sexton the same ones who thought Booker and Lavine were empty stats before this season. Can’t say I’m shocked


Add Randle to the booker and Lavine list!!!!!!

I’ve learned from that but obviously some Knick fans still haven’t!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#445 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:56 pm

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We struggled to get buckets because we played 3 starters that couldn't shoot a spot up standstill 3. We started a PG who the opposing defense completely ignored when he both had and didn't have the ball.

Sexton is an on ball, pound it and chuck player. He's Monte Ellis, Dion Waiters etc.. We need a Cam Johnson, or a Bridges or a Duncan Robinson who can keep the floor spread.

... assuming we're keeping and starting RJ Barrett and Randle.

You rather overpay Duncan Robinson?


No, I'm just citing the archetype of a knock down shooter. $12-15 million sure. I think Miami might get backed into a corner and end up paying him $18-20.

But he essentially drags the whole defense with him off a pin down and can give guys like Jimmy Butler and Bam who aren't shooters room to operate. Players average NBA defense given how the league is officiated.

Duncan Robinson is one of the worst defenders in the league. He’s just Steve Novak who knows how to move off the ball. Giving him 15 mill a year is an isiah Thomas type move :lol:
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#446 » by Jimmit79 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:56 pm

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But Sexton can shoot and create his own shot. We could use a Cam, Duncan or Bridges AFTER we get someone like Sexton who can penetrate, shoot and draw defenses.


What is RJ going to do? or Randle? Unless something changes having those 2 just stand around watching Sexton chuck isn't getting us anywhere. Sexton doesn't pass. We need a player who defenses respect enough to guard in a pick and roll. Players that you can just go under on every time and laugh if they shoot a 3 are kind of useless, like Payton. Sexton is just Austin Rivers with new paint. **** him.

You’re out your mind if you think Sexton is just gonna come in and keep playing like he did with the Cavs. Here there’s a structure and hierarchy that doesn’t exist in Cleveland
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Post#447 » by nedleeds » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:57 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:You rather overpay Duncan Robinson?


No, I'm just citing the archetype of a knock down shooter. $12-15 million sure. I think Miami might get backed into a corner and end up paying him $18-20.

But he essentially drags the whole defense with him off a pin down and can give guys like Jimmy Butler and Bam who aren't shooters room to operate. Players average NBA defense given how the league is officiated.

Duncan Robinson is one of the worst defenders in the league. He’s just Steve Novak who knows how to move off the ball. Giving him 15 mill a year is an isiah Thomas type move :lol:


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Post#448 » by F N 11 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:58 pm

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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#449 » by nedleeds » Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:58 pm

F N 11 wrote:RJ trying to get a shot from Sexton and Randle.



Hahahahaha watch this disinterested bum chucker on defense.



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Post#450 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:00 pm

What does Obi Toppin provide this team with? What are we losing with him not being on the team?


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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#451 » by DaGawd » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:01 pm

F N 11 wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Read on Twitter

Anddddddd everybody quiet.

That’s a solid deal
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#452 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:02 pm

I wonder how many of you would pass on a 22 year old Kyrie Irving that was in a similar situation as Colin Sexton :lol:
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Post#453 » by nedleeds » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:02 pm

DaGawd wrote:
F N 11 wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Read on Twitter

Anddddddd everybody quiet.

That’s a solid deal

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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#454 » by GONYK » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:03 pm

DaGawd wrote:
F N 11 wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Read on Twitter

Anddddddd everybody quiet.

That’s a solid deal


There's also no reason to assume we're going to max him out.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#455 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:03 pm

F N 11 wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
Read on Twitter

Anddddddd everybody quiet.



we're talking about Lonzo at around 20 mill, if not more, so another 8 mill per year for someone that can create off the bounce doesn't seem like too much of an over pay to me
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Post#456 » by DOT » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:03 pm

I can't see how anyone is balking at giving up Obi for Sexton

If you want to argue you don't think Sexton is worth 30 mil a year, or you think we'd need to take back Love and you don't want to pay him the next 2 years, that's understandable

But in terms of talent and fit, it's not even close.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#457 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:04 pm

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No, I'm just citing the archetype of a knock down shooter. $12-15 million sure. I think Miami might get backed into a corner and end up paying him $18-20.

But he essentially drags the whole defense with him off a pin down and can give guys like Jimmy Butler and Bam who aren't shooters room to operate. Players average NBA defense given how the league is officiated.

Duncan Robinson is one of the worst defenders in the league. He’s just Steve Novak who knows how to move off the ball. Giving him 15 mill a year is an isiah Thomas type move :lol:


Too early for the lazy white guy comp drinking game, some of us have to go to work.

You’re clearly drunk if you think Duncan Robinson is worth 15 mill. You should call out of work right now. Thank god you not running the Knicks :lol:
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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#458 » by F N 11 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:04 pm

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F N 11 wrote:RJ trying to get a shot from Sexton and Randle.



Hahahahaha watch this disinterested bum chucker on defense.



Austin Rivers with new tires. MAX DIS CAT!


At that price I hope he scores less and show other parts of his game if hes a knick.
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Post#459 » by nedleeds » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:05 pm

bronxknicksfan1 wrote:I wonder how many of you would pass on a 22 year old Kyrie Irving that was in a similar situation as Colin Sexton :lol:


https://stathead.com/tiny/OTAUy

You aren't that wrong. Sexton is a year older in his 3rd year than Kyrie but the efficiency, even adjusted for league average is better than Kyrie in his 3rd season. Both were playing on trash, tank fest Cavs teams.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#460 » by DaGawd » Tue Jul 13, 2021 5:05 pm

nedleeds wrote:
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F N 11 wrote:Anddddddd everybody quiet.

That’s a solid deal

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Your boy FN11 would rather max Lonzo so I really don’t even wanna hear it.. if Lonzo gonna get 20 mill Sexton should get at least 10 mill more than him
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