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'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NYK's radar during Free Agency'

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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#201 » by nedleeds » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:57 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The biggest problem is you don't understand pace or possessions.


... or efficiency. Like at all. It's a counting stats roman orgy mixed with random anecdotal things like "LOOK AT THIS ONE GAME WHERE KORVER MADE SIX 3'S!"
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#202 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:58 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Buddy Hield fastest in NBA history to make 1,000 career 3-pointers
https://www.nba.com/news/buddy-hield-fastest-in-nba-history-to-make-1000-career-3-pointers


Wait. Aren't you the little fan who said you "don't care about regular season 3s and how you only talk about playoffs 3's"?

But then you try and fail by using "Buddy" as an example? :lol: @ you dude.

Buddy has been in the league since 2016 and has a Playoffs 3PT% of .000% because he's never once led his team a postseason appearance (0 career playoff games).

:lol:

Are you sure you really want to talk to me about...

A) Playoffs.
B.) 3PT%

C.) Without sounding like a hypocritical type of hypocrite to all of RealGM?

Duncan Robinson previous 2 years

520/1219 (3PT% of .427%)
44-29 (2019-2020 playoffs + finals).
40-32 (2020-2021 playoffs).
Winning record of 84-61 (.575%).
25 playoff games.

Buddy Hield precious 2 yesrs
553/1409 (3PT% of .392%)
31-41 (2019-2020 = 0 playoffs)
31-41 (2020-2021 = 0 playoffs).
Losing record of 62-82 (.430%)
0 playoff games.

:lol: :banghead: :lol:

Do you still want to talk about Duncan Robinson vs. your Buddy ol boy to me in regards to both PLAYOFFS AND 3PT SHOOTING %?

:lol:

Admit it.

Duncan Robinson makes 3s for playoffs and Finals teams while your Buddy boy misses 3's in garbage time for losing teams and never even made 1 playoff 3PT shot throughout his entire career :lol: @ you and your buddy boy example.

Your good ol Buddy boy is a loser vs Robinson a winner. :P

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Your posts make little to no sense and are just long winded gibberish, you were talking about Duncan Robinson in the playoffs, trying to make it sound like he was some unrelenting force of nature when the reality is he only made 3 threes per game last season. The entire point was that the guys ahead of him that made more threes per game are multi-faceted players who do more than just shoot. Me bringing up Buddy Hield was in response to you lauding the fastest to 500 threes like that means anything when the fastest to 1000 is Hield and nobody cares about either. I don't want Hield, just like I don't want Duncan. The funniest thing is that you posted Buddy vs Duncan's two year stats and Buddy made more threes over that time period :lol:


I see you constantly saying the Knicks were 21st in threes, well the Heat were 14th in threes per game and 19th in percentage. Duncan made 1 whole three more than Reggie did per game, the Heat play at the same pace as us, so it's not like he'd come here and get more looks than he did on a team that has Bam & Jimmy Butler. You want to give someone a max that only made 1 three more per game, at a lower percentage. He made 2.5 threes per game in the playoffs this year at .370%, Reggie made 2.0 threes at .345%, if you think .5 more threes and .025% is worth 3-5 times as much money you are just a terrible at cost benefit analysis and I'd love to sell you some land or stocks.


Why aren't you acknowledging how Duncan Robinson absolutely DESTROYED the Doug McDermott during the playoffs and the Doug McDermott who you lied and said does everything including shoot "as good as Duncan Robinson"? Admit it. You lied. You did not watch that playoff series Miami vs. Indiana, did you?

And yeah. You're using a 4 game sample size to write a player off and IGNORING his 21 postseason 3 point shooting performance of 2019-2020 when he helped lead Miami to the Finals with lights out shooting from 3 and only as a 1st year starter too.

4 game sample size last year? Pathetic.

Because I could look up Michael Jordan and Steph Curry 4 game sample sizes during the playoffs too (in order to absolutely embarrass you).

Oh yeah. Your Buddy was an awful example.

It took Buddy 376 games before his 500th 3 pointer made.

It took Duncan 152 games before his 500th 3 pointer made

Duncan = 152 games (500 3s).
Buddy = 376 games (500 3s).

It took Duncan 224 fewer games to reach 500 3's than it took Buddy.

224 fewer games?!????

First "Doug McDermott".
Then "Buddy Hield".

Any other crap examples you'd like to give me?

Because you're doing an awesome job of pointing out just how great of a 3PT shooter Robinson has been...

:lol: :nod: :lol:
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#203 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:14 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
I'm more interested in the attention he gets from the defense, he would make far less 3's playing for Thibs


Where do people come up with this stuff?

Guess you never heard of Kyle Korver?

The kid who throughout not even two full seasons (147 games) Thibbs allowed and let jack up 560 3PT attempts despite only 7 starts and only 21.2 minutes per game?

Never heard of him?

Because if so you wouldn't have just made me quote you on something that's completely made up and false.



1 game with 6 3's made and only god knows how many 3 point attempts Thibs drew up for his sharp shooter.



560 3PT attempts throughout only 2 years?
Despite only 7 starts?
Despite only 21.2 minutes per game?

Do you not know what you're talking about man or are you just saying random thoughts?

Coach Thibs would easily allow DUNCAN ROBINSON to shoot 800-1000 3s throughout a two year span while A.) Starter @ SF and B.) 30+ minutes per game (31+ minutes per game in Miami).


Per 36 Korver took 6.5 threes per game with the Bulls, it's not like Thibs was letting him do anything different from other coaches.


Immediately stopped reading right there. Because you know absolutely nothingness in regards to 3PT shooting.

Korver with Thibs = 6.5 3PT attempts per 36.
Curry first 5 years = 6.3 3PT attempts per 36.

So what are you trying to say?

That Thibs let Korver shoot more 3's than then Curry's first 5 years per every 36?

And Kyle Korver after 17 NBA seasons has a career 6.6 3's per every 36 so what are you saying? How Korver was used PERFECTLY by coach Thibs?!? :lol:
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#204 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:15 pm

NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
Wait. Aren't you the little fan who said you "don't care about regular season 3s and how you only talk about playoffs 3's"?

But then you try and fail by using "Buddy" as an example? :lol: @ you dude.

Buddy has been in the league since 2016 and has a Playoffs 3PT% of .000% because he's never once led his team a postseason appearance (0 career playoff games).

:lol:

Are you sure you really want to talk to me about...

A) Playoffs.
B.) 3PT%

C.) Without sounding like a hypocritical type of hypocrite to all of RealGM?

Duncan Robinson previous 2 years

520/1219 (3PT% of .427%)
44-29 (2019-2020 playoffs + finals).
40-32 (2020-2021 playoffs).
Winning record of 84-61 (.575%).
25 playoff games.

Buddy Hield precious 2 yesrs
553/1409 (3PT% of .392%)
31-41 (2019-2020 = 0 playoffs)
31-41 (2020-2021 = 0 playoffs).
Losing record of 62-82 (.430%)
0 playoff games.

:lol: :banghead: :lol:

Do you still want to talk about Duncan Robinson vs. your Buddy ol boy to me in regards to both PLAYOFFS AND 3PT SHOOTING %?

:lol:

Admit it.

Duncan Robinson makes 3s for playoffs and Finals teams while your Buddy boy misses 3's in garbage time for losing teams and never even made 1 playoff 3PT shot throughout his entire career :lol: @ you and your buddy boy example.

Your good ol Buddy boy is a loser vs Robinson a winner. :P

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Your posts make little to no sense and are just long winded gibberish, you were talking about Duncan Robinson in the playoffs, trying to make it sound like he was some unrelenting force of nature when the reality is he only made 3 threes per game last season. The entire point was that the guys ahead of him that made more threes per game are multi-faceted players who do more than just shoot. Me bringing up Buddy Hield was in response to you lauding the fastest to 500 threes like that means anything when the fastest to 1000 is Hield and nobody cares about either. I don't want Hield, just like I don't want Duncan. The funniest thing is that you posted Buddy vs Duncan's two year stats and Buddy made more threes over that time period :lol:


I see you constantly saying the Knicks were 21st in threes, well the Heat were 14th in threes per game and 19th in percentage. Duncan made 1 whole three more than Reggie did per game, the Heat play at the same pace as us, so it's not like he'd come here and get more looks than he did on a team that has Bam & Jimmy Butler. You want to give someone a max that only made 1 three more per game, at a lower percentage. He made 2.5 threes per game in the playoffs this year at .370%, Reggie made 2.0 threes at .345%, if you think .5 more threes and .025% is worth 3-5 times as much money you are just a terrible at cost benefit analysis and I'd love to sell you some land or stocks.


Why aren't you acknowledging how Duncan Robinson absolutely DESTROYED the Doug McDermott during the playoffs and the Doug McDermott who you lied and said does everything including shoot "as good as Duncan Robinson"? Admit it. You lied. You did not watch that playoff series Miami vs. Indiana, did you?

And yeah. You're using a 4 game sample size to write a player off and IGNORING his 21 postseason 3 point shooting performance of 2019-2020 when he helped lead Miami to the Finals with lights out shooting from 3 and only as a 1st year starter too.

4 game sample size last year? Pathetic.

Because I could look up Michael Jordan and Steph Curry 4 game sample sizes during the playoffs too (in order to absolutely embarrass you).

Oh yeah. Your Buddy was an awful example.

It took Buddy 376 games before his 500th 3 pointer made.

It took Duncan 152 games before his 500th 3 pointer made

Duncan = 152 games (500 3s).
Buddy = 376 games (500 3s).

It took Duncan 224 fewer games to reach 500 3's than it took Buddy.

224 fewer games?!????

First "Doug McDermott".
Then "Buddy Hield".

Any other crap examples you'd like to give me?

Because you're doing an awesome job of pointing out just how great of a 3PT shooter Robinson has been...

:lol: :nod: :lol:



Because Doug is a bench player and he's going to get paid like a bench player, nobody is campaigning to pay him max money. I'd rather have Doug at $20 million than Duncan at $70-80 million, this seems really tough for you to understand. You say it's a 4 game sample size, yet here you are using stats from the bubble after every single bubble team got eliminated and not one player who had a great showing in the bubble lived up to those numbers again. Donovan Mitchell made 52% of his threes in the bubble on 9 attempts a game, and you have the nerve to talk about sample sizes :lol: I'm using his most recent playoff performance, you're using playoff numbers from an environment that we'll neve see again and he wasn't even the top 3 point shooter in them.


The fastest to 500 threes is as meaningless as Buddy being the fastest to 1000 threes, why is this so hard for you to understand? You're doing deep dives on Hield, I don't want him on the team because he can only shoot, this is a really difficult concept for you to grasp isn't it? Hield's name came up to highlight how meaningless "Fastest to XYZ threes" is, do you finally get it?
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#205 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:20 pm

NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
Where do people come up with this stuff?

Guess you never heard of Kyle Korver?

The kid who throughout not even two full seasons (147 games) Thibbs allowed and let jack up 560 3PT attempts despite only 7 starts and only 21.2 minutes per game?

Never heard of him?

Because if so you wouldn't have just made me quote you on something that's completely made up and false.



1 game with 6 3's made and only god knows how many 3 point attempts Thibs drew up for his sharp shooter.



560 3PT attempts throughout only 2 years?
Despite only 7 starts?
Despite only 21.2 minutes per game?

Do you not know what you're talking about man or are you just saying random thoughts?

Coach Thibs would easily allow DUNCAN ROBINSON to shoot 800-1000 3s throughout a two year span while A.) Starter @ SF and B.) 30+ minutes per game (31+ minutes per game in Miami).


Per 36 Korver took 6.5 threes per game with the Bulls, it's not like Thibs was letting him do anything different from other coaches.


Immediately stopped reading right there. Because you know absolutely nothingness in regards to 3PT shooting.

Korver with Thibs = 6.5 3PT attempts per 36.
Curry first 5 years = 6.3 3PT attempts per 36.

So what are you trying to say?

That Thibs let Korver shoot more 3's than then Curry's first 5 years per every 36?

And Kyle Korver after 17 NBA seasons has a career 6.6 3's per every 36 so what are you saying? How Korver was used PERFECTLY by coach Thibs?!? :lol:


Curry played for 3 different coaches in his first 5 years, and he started taking 7.2 threes per 36 by his 4th year. You are easily in the running for worst poster I have encountered on here, the arbitrary cut-offs for time periods, the lack of any context and the reliance on counting stats with no type of understanding of pace or possessions, and you speak with such confidence which makes it all come together :lol:
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#206 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:48 pm

nedleeds wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The biggest problem is you don't understand pace or possessions.


... or efficiency. Like at all. It's a counting stats roman orgy mixed with random anecdotal things like "LOOK AT THIS ONE GAME WHERE KORVER MADE SIX 3'S!"


But now you're lying. Because it wasn't only "one game".

I gave you a clear example of 560 3PT attempts throughout a two year span and 560 3PT attempts despite only 7 starts and despite only 21.2 minutes per game. So stop your mocking to lie a point against Duncan Robinson.

Efficiency? I don't know efficiency?

You're the one who can't comprehend EFFICIENCY.

and as a Knicks fan it's a joke already.

I'm in awe over Duncan Robinson's 3PT ability and you can't stomach it so instead you begin to coach bash without even realizing you were proving an A+ point for me in regards to me wanting Duncan Robinson?

I'm about to absolutely embarrass your lack of "efficiency" talk.

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You don't even realize that under Thibs both of R.J. Barrett and Julius Randle's 3PT% SKYROCKETED, did you?

Want to talk Thibs 3PT% efficiency to me?

Ok. Cool. Time to have this conversation (finally).

You don't even comprehend the turnaround we had during only year #1 under Thibs, do you?

But I do. You don't. But I do.

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2015 Knicks without Thibs = 20th in 3PT% (.346%).

2016 Knicks without Thibs = 21st in 3PT% (.348%).

2017 Knicks without Thibs = 25th in 3PT% (.352%).

2018 Knicks without Thibs = 28th in 3PT% (.340%).

2019 Knicks without Thibs = 27th in 3PT% (.337%).

You're barking up the wrong EFFICIENCY tree.

2020 Knicks with Thibbs = 2nd in 3PT% (.392%)

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You don't even know what EFFICIENCY means.

During only Thibs 1st year (COACH OF THE YEAR, genius) he inherited a 20th, 21st, 25th, 28th and 27th 3PT% shooting team

AND IMMEDIATELY TURNS THEM AROUND INTO #2 OVERALL! FROM 27 TO #2 YOU EFFICIENCY GENIUS YOU!

Don't talk to me about 3 point shooting anymore. You just lost out on that right.

3PT% before and after Thibs

• 2019 Julius Randle = No Thibs = .277%. = No All-Star = No Most Improved Player.
Vs.
2020 Julius Randle = Yes Thibs = .410%. = Yes All-Star = Yes Most Improved Player.

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• 2019 R.J Barrett = No Thibs = .320%
Vs.
2020 R.J. Barrett = Yes Thibs = .401%.

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• 2019 Reggie Bullock = No Thibs = .333%.
Vs.
2020 Reggie Bullock = Yes Thibs = .410%.

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• 2019 Alec Burks = No Thibs = .374%.
Vs.
2020 Alec Burks = Yes Thibs = .415%.

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• 2019 Kevin Knox = No Thibs = .327%
Vs.
2020 Kevin Knox = Yes Thibs = .393%.

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• 2019 Derrick Rose = No Thibs = .333%.
Vs.
2010 Derrick Rose = Yes Thibs = .411%.

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• 2019 Frank Ntilikina = No Thibs = .321%.
Vs.
2020 = Frank Ntilikina = Yes Thibs = .479%.

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• 2019 Elfrid Payton = No Thibs = .203%.
Vs.
2020 Elfrid Payton = Yes Thibs = .286%.

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Perfect 8/8.

The only two players he allowed 0 3PT shots were Mitchell Robinson and Nerlens Noel (smart coach).

All 8 of our (non Rookie) shooters improved their efficiency in regards to 3PT%. [B]

You actually just fired me up 10x more than I already was for...

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Because [b]DUNCAN
ROBINSON is (already) featuring a top 15 All-Time NBA 3 point shooting percentage of .423% and under an efficient 3PT% 2x Coach of the Year in Thibs he'll be 100% guaranteed to pull off an RJ/Julius/Rose/Burks/Payton/Knox/Frank/Bullock and increase his already insane 3PT% of .423% to I'm guessing around .450%-.475% and become the NBA's next Steph Curry (without QUESTION too) as one of the most efficient and greatest 3PT shooters of All-Time!

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• How does this happen?

• How does NY go from 27th in 3PT% to 2nd in 3PT% during only his first year?

• How does NY go from 21-45 to 41-31 during only his 1st year?

• How does our team Defense go from 18th to #1 during only his 1st year?

• How does NY go from 25th worst NBA Record to 11th best NBA Record during only his 1st year

• How does NY go from 2012-2013 under Melo since last postseason to #4 seed under Julius during only his 1st year?

√ Don't worry about answering these basic 101 basketball questions because any real basketball fan with an intelligent I.Q who comprehends and understands the definition meaning of "efficiency" knows that the answer is...

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PS: Thnx you for my next Knicks and General Board Thread Creation. It's going to be titled...

"[B]Tom Thibodeau's Efficiency Rating"[/color]

(and hopefully you won't mind me quoting you on it too because, well; you're the RealGM basketball efficiency king, right?).

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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#207 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:07 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


Your posts make little to no sense and are just long winded gibberish, you were talking about Duncan Robinson in the playoffs, trying to make it sound like he was some unrelenting force of nature when the reality is he only made 3 threes per game last season. The entire point was that the guys ahead of him that made more threes per game are multi-faceted players who do more than just shoot. Me bringing up Buddy Hield was in response to you lauding the fastest to 500 threes like that means anything when the fastest to 1000 is Hield and nobody cares about either. I don't want Hield, just like I don't want Duncan. The funniest thing is that you posted Buddy vs Duncan's two year stats and Buddy made more threes over that time period :lol:


I see you constantly saying the Knicks were 21st in threes, well the Heat were 14th in threes per game and 19th in percentage. Duncan made 1 whole three more than Reggie did per game, the Heat play at the same pace as us, so it's not like he'd come here and get more looks than he did on a team that has Bam & Jimmy Butler. You want to give someone a max that only made 1 three more per game, at a lower percentage. He made 2.5 threes per game in the playoffs this year at .370%, Reggie made 2.0 threes at .345%, if you think .5 more threes and .025% is worth 3-5 times as much money you are just a terrible at cost benefit analysis and I'd love to sell you some land or stocks.


Why aren't you acknowledging how Duncan Robinson absolutely DESTROYED the Doug McDermott during the playoffs and the Doug McDermott who you lied and said does everything including shoot "as good as Duncan Robinson"? Admit it. You lied. You did not watch that playoff series Miami vs. Indiana, did you?

And yeah. You're using a 4 game sample size to write a player off and IGNORING his 21 postseason 3 point shooting performance of 2019-2020 when he helped lead Miami to the Finals with lights out shooting from 3 and only as a 1st year starter too.

4 game sample size last year? Pathetic.

Because I could look up Michael Jordan and Steph Curry 4 game sample sizes during the playoffs too (in order to absolutely embarrass you).

Oh yeah. Your Buddy was an awful example.

It took Buddy 376 games before his 500th 3 pointer made.

It took Duncan 152 games before his 500th 3 pointer made

Duncan = 152 games (500 3s).
Buddy = 376 games (500 3s).

It took Duncan 224 fewer games to reach 500 3's than it took Buddy.

224 fewer games?!????

First "Doug McDermott".
Then "Buddy Hield".

Any other crap examples you'd like to give me?

Because you're doing an awesome job of pointing out just how great of a 3PT shooter Robinson has been...

:lol: :nod: :lol:



Because Doug is a bench player

Had to stop reading right there.

Douglas is a BENCH PLAYER because he... STINKS.

The Knicks aren't looking for a "bench player" because we're in search of a starting SF.

And Duncan Robinson just so happens to be a Starting SF who's considered one of the greatest pure 3 point shooters within the game today (from the eye test to every paid professional sports writers around the Country too).

YesDopeOnSaturdays wrote:The fastest to 500 threes is as meaningless as Buddy being the fastest to 1000 threes, why is this so hard for you to understand?


Fastest players to 500/1,000 3's may not be impressive to you but I couldn't care less because I'm not impressed by, you.

A grand total of 4,374 NBA players have played withing the NBA All-Time so if you can't be impressed by or respect someone who is impressed by the fastest to 500 3's? Maybe you should just stop considering yourself a "basketball fan" and allow basketball historians an opportunity to respect the great shooters who've actually, you know.. Made NBA Three pointers throughout the history of this game?

Are there even any 3 point shooters in the game today (outside of Steph Curry) who you actually even, like?

This way I can compare your favorite 3PT shooters of todays game to Duncan Robinson and also nitpick their 4 game sample sizes and 3PT percentages too? :lol:

Shoot your shot (since you're a 3PT know it all).

1____
2____
3____
4____
5____
6____
7____
8____
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10____

Fill in the blanks.

SHOW ME YOUR FAVORITE TOP 10 3PT SHOOTERS (so I can give them the "NoDopeOnSundays treatment"

:lol:

PS: I won't stop nor will I leave you alone until you show me your top 10 favorite 3PT shooters heading into 2021-2022.

1 Steph Curry.
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Shoot your best shot :lol:
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#208 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:45 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote: Hello


Now that my coach Thibs efficiency post shut that guy up, where you at?

Now that you've learned how all 8 of our Knicks shooters increased 3PT% under coach Thibs and improved from 27th to #2 in 3PT% under coach Thibs I'm sure you could agree that Duncan Robinson would absolutely light it up.

But nonetheless since you're a so called 3PT know it all genius I'm still waiting for you to list me your top 10 3PT shooters who are more accurate and more deadly then Duncan Robinson?

PS: Make sure I can't nitpick and find any 4 game playoff slumps or low postseason 3PT% aka the 'NoDope treatment".

1.) _____
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3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

Shoot your best shot (so I can Mutombo reject it).
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#209 » by KnixtapeH20 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:15 pm

I can't read a single **** post on this thread because they're all 4 pages long, have 17 different font color and sizes aling with images, videos and gifs galore.. Smh
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#210 » by KnicksGadfly » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:15 pm

What about Danny Green? Man has 3 titles!
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Post#211 » by br7knicks » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:39 pm

nedleeds wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The biggest problem is you don't understand pace or possessions.


... or efficiency. Like at all. It's a counting stats roman orgy mixed with random anecdotal things like "LOOK AT THIS ONE GAME WHERE KORVER MADE SIX 3'S!"


Maybe mods can change his name to NYK-StatCherryPick. If you say new York Knicks instead of NYK, it rolls off the tongue.
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#212 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:05 pm

br7knicks wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The biggest problem is you don't understand pace or possessions.


... or efficiency. Like at all. It's a counting stats roman orgy mixed with random anecdotal things like "LOOK AT THIS ONE GAME WHERE KORVER MADE SIX 3'S!"


Maybe mods can change his name to NYK-StatCherryPick. If you say new York Knicks instead of NYK, it rolls off the tongue.


How did I cherry pick by pointing out how all 8 players outside of our two rookies INCREASED their 3PT shooting percentages under Thibs? What? Didn't fit your agenda or something?

But yeah. You seem to be another 3 point RealGM know it all.

I bet you don't have the courage to list me your 10 best pure 3 point shooters in the game today?

This way instead of you nitpicking me for my thoughts on Duncan Robinson; I'll be able to eat your list alive...

br7knicks wrote: My top 10 favorite NBA 3PT shooters heading into 2021-2022


1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

Shoot your best shot (so I can Mutombo reject it).

Ball is in YOUR COURT NOW br7.
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#213 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:05 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:What about Danny Green? Man has 3 titles!


I like Danny Green. Great shooter.

But if I were to mock NoDopeOnSundays and give Danny Green the "NoDope Treatment"?

I could nitpick a bunch of postseason series of small sample sizes (of under .370% from 3 like he's doing with Robinson vs. Milwaukee) in order to make him "look bad" while also ignoring all of the other great Danny Green playoff shooting performances (just like he's doing to Duncan Robinson).

Just watch how easy it is :lol:

Danny Green's bad playoff series from 3

2011 vs Memphis (6 games): 1/4 (.250%).
2012 vs Utah (4 games): 5/16 (.313%)
2012 vs. OKC (6 games): 4/23 (.174%).
2013 vs. Lakers (4 games): 4/12 (.333%).
2014 vs. Portland (5 games): 8/24 (.333%).
2015 vs. LAC (7 games): 12/40 (.300%)
2017 vs. Memphis (6 games): 7/24 (.292%).
2017 vs Golden State (4 games): 6/19 (.316%).
2018 vs Golden State (5 games): 5/20 (.250%).
2019 vs. Orlando (5 games): 10/28 (.357%).
2019 vs. Milwaukee (6 games): 4/23 (.174%).
2019 vs. G.S (6 games, NBA Finals): 12/33 (.364%).
2020 vs Miami (6 games, NBA Finals): 11/38 (.289%).
2020 vs Denver (5 games): 8/25 (.320%).
2020 vs. Portland (5 games): 9/26 (.346%).
2021 vs. Atlanta (7 games): 1/9 (.111%).

So according to NoDopeOnSundays these were the 16 bad playoff series from 3 by Danny Green and during these 16 BAD SERIES Danny Green only combined for...

16 playoff series (87 games): 107/364 from 3 (.293%).

You see what I did there?

[B] I have Danny Green the "NoDopeOnSundays Playoffs Treatment").

What I did was ignored completely ignored the 13 playoffs series that Danny Green shot over .370% from 3 and only focused on the 16 playoff series that Danny Green shot worse and under .370% (just like NoDopeOnSundays is doing to Duncan Robinson vs Milwaukee during his small 4 game sample size).

So. I guess that's it. I guess Danny Green "sucks" because 16 series (87 games), 107/364 and only .293% says so...

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(Please don't take me serious. I'm just mocking NoDopeOnSundays and deep down inside I feel cheap and disgusted with myself).
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#214 » by br7knicks » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:19 pm

NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
br7knicks wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
... or efficiency. Like at all. It's a counting stats roman orgy mixed with random anecdotal things like "LOOK AT THIS ONE GAME WHERE KORVER MADE SIX 3'S!"


Maybe mods can change his name to NYK-StatCherryPick. If you say new York Knicks instead of NYK, it rolls off the tongue.


How did I cherry pick by pointing out how all 8 players outside of our two rookies INCREASED their 3PT shooting percentages under Thibs? What? Didn't fit your agenda or something?

But yeah. You seem to be another 3 point RealGM know it all.

I bet you don't have the courage to list me your 10 best pure 3 point shooters in the game today?

This way instead of you nitpicking me for my thoughts on Duncan Robinson; I'll be able to eat your list alive...

br7knicks wrote: My top 10 favorite NBA 3PT shooters heading into 2021-2022


1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

Shoot your best shot (so I can Mutombo reject it).

Ball is in YOUR COURT NOW br7.


I think you have a different definition of, "know it all," from the rest of us

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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#215 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:40 pm

br7knicks wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
br7knicks wrote:
Maybe mods can change his name to NYK-StatCherryPick. If you say new York Knicks instead of NYK, it rolls off the tongue.


How did I cherry pick by pointing out how all 8 players outside of our two rookies INCREASED their 3PT shooting percentages under Thibs? What? Didn't fit your agenda or something?

But yeah. You seem to be another 3 point RealGM know it all.

I bet you don't have the courage to list me your 10 best pure 3 point shooters in the game today?

This way instead of you nitpicking me for my thoughts on Duncan Robinson; I'll be able to eat your list alive...

br7knicks wrote: My top 10 favorite NBA 3PT shooters heading into 2021-2022


1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

Shoot your best shot (so I can Mutombo reject it).

Ball is in YOUR COURT NOW br7.


I think you have a different definition of, "know it all," from the rest of us

:wink:


Wait. Hold on.

You have all of this input and insight in regards to criticizing my own basketball thoughts and opinions on Duncan Robinson, but yet you don't have a 3 point opinion of your own?

What type of sports fan are you?

What's wrong, you can't name your top 10 NBA 3 point shooters heading into 2021-2022? No basketball thoughts and opinions of your own?

How can you tell me my Duncan Robinson opinion isn't valid when you don't even know how to create your own top 10 list of NBA 3 point shooters? :lol:

1.) ___
2.) ___
3.) ___
4.) ___
5.) ___
6.) ___
7.) ___
8.) ___
9.) ___
10.) __

Shoot your best shot...

Or do you not have one? Because if not that's disgusting.
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#216 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:46 pm

NoDopeOnSundays:
1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____


br7knicks.
1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

We're playing a new RealGM basketball game and it's called...

"Shoot your best shot"

You guys have so much input and insight when it comes to correcting "NYKMentality85" but yet don't have an ability to shoot your own shot?

Shoot.
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#217 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:50 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:Duncan Robinson ?

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No?

Then who do you say "yes" to?

Which 10 NBA 3 Point Shooters would you say is better than Duncan Robinson?


Terrence Clarke:
1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

Shoot your shot.
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#218 » by N Y K » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:51 pm

NYK-Mentality85 wrote:These aren't my words, these are the words of 5 different paid professional sports writers (and all 5 who know a lot more about him than you do).

1.)"An undrafted free agent back in 2018, Robinson has morphed into one of the most lethal catch-and-shoot three-point artists in the NBA today. Since the start of the 2019-20 season, the Michigan product is hitting on an astounding 43% from distance while averaging nearly four three-pointers per game. We know how much value that brings in today’s basketball landscape. Still only 27, he’s going to get a huge offer once the wing hits the restricted NBA free agent market with the New York Knicks showing initial interest."

2.) "Robinson has established himself as perhaps the most lethal movement shooter in basketball in two seasons since breaking out with the Heat in 2019-20. Though limited in other facets, he should be in for a sizable raise on his current contract, which he signed after starting on a two-way deal in Miami."

3.)"One of the best outside shooters in the league over the past couple of years. He’s also improved a good amount as a defender and on offense by learning how to use opponents’ aggressive defense against them to create easy buckets off of cuts."

4.)"A restricted free agent, it’s widely believe the Heat would very much like to retain the services of the deadly sharp shooter who turned out to be an awesome find out of Michigan. But someone could blow Robinson away with an offer considering he’s a career 42.3 percent shooter from beyond the arc, pricing him out of Miami".

5.) " Robinson is a 27-year-old elite perimeter shooter. Every contender needs shooting, and Robinson will be rewarded handsomely for his skill set. Robinson posted 13.1 points per game on the year while shooting 40.8 percent from deep on 8.5 attempts. He's always moving and can get shots off on the catch exceptionally quickly. He may not get as high as a maximum contract, but he'll be the target of teams with cap room. The Heat can match any offer, but how high will they go? Theoretical destinations: Heat, Knicks. Price range: $18-24 million starting salary.


Etc. Etc.
(It's easy to search online).

The NBA world loves him.
RealGM doesn't know any better.
We'll keep on laughing @ you.

Don't argue with NYKMENTALITY85.
Argue with those sports writers who see what I see.

I have no fight in this except to say if you bold everything, none of what you bold is important enough to read... carry on.
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#219 » by NYK-Mentality85 » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:56 pm

N Y K wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:These aren't my words, these are the words of 5 different paid professional sports writers (and all 5 who know a lot more about him than you do).

1.)"An undrafted free agent back in 2018, Robinson has morphed into one of the most lethal catch-and-shoot three-point artists in the NBA today. Since the start of the 2019-20 season, the Michigan product is hitting on an astounding 43% from distance while averaging nearly four three-pointers per game. We know how much value that brings in today’s basketball landscape. Still only 27, he’s going to get a huge offer once the wing hits the restricted NBA free agent market with the New York Knicks showing initial interest."

2.) "Robinson has established himself as perhaps the most lethal movement shooter in basketball in two seasons since breaking out with the Heat in 2019-20. Though limited in other facets, he should be in for a sizable raise on his current contract, which he signed after starting on a two-way deal in Miami."

3.)"One of the best outside shooters in the league over the past couple of years. He’s also improved a good amount as a defender and on offense by learning how to use opponents’ aggressive defense against them to create easy buckets off of cuts."

4.)"A restricted free agent, it’s widely believe the Heat would very much like to retain the services of the deadly sharp shooter who turned out to be an awesome find out of Michigan. But someone could blow Robinson away with an offer considering he’s a career 42.3 percent shooter from beyond the arc, pricing him out of Miami".

5.) " Robinson is a 27-year-old elite perimeter shooter. Every contender needs shooting, and Robinson will be rewarded handsomely for his skill set. Robinson posted 13.1 points per game on the year while shooting 40.8 percent from deep on 8.5 attempts. He's always moving and can get shots off on the catch exceptionally quickly. He may not get as high as a maximum contract, but he'll be the target of teams with cap room. The Heat can match any offer, but how high will they go? Theoretical destinations: Heat, Knicks. Price range: $18-24 million starting salary.


Etc. Etc.
(It's easy to search online).

The NBA world loves him.
RealGM doesn't know any better.
We'll keep on laughing @ you.

Don't argue with NYKMENTALITY85.
Argue with those sports writers who see what I see.

I have no fight in this except to say if you bold everything, none of what you bold is important enough to read... carry on.


Fair enough but if you took the time to click the thread title (Duncan Robinson), took the time to quote the bold and even took the time to text me?

Well then if you can not list me your top 10 NBA 3 point shooters who you believe are better than Duncan Robinson, well, then; that means none of your basketball opinions are important enough to read...


N Y K is now on the clock.
1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

Shoot your shot.
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Re: 'SHARPSHOOTER Duncan Robinson on NY’s radar during Free Agency' 

Post#220 » by N Y K » Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:59 pm

NYK-Mentality85 wrote:
N Y K wrote:
NYK-Mentality85 wrote:These aren't my words, these are the words of 5 different paid professional sports writers (and all 5 who know a lot more about him than you do).

1.)"An undrafted free agent back in 2018, Robinson has morphed into one of the most lethal catch-and-shoot three-point artists in the NBA today. Since the start of the 2019-20 season, the Michigan product is hitting on an astounding 43% from distance while averaging nearly four three-pointers per game. We know how much value that brings in today’s basketball landscape. Still only 27, he’s going to get a huge offer once the wing hits the restricted NBA free agent market with the New York Knicks showing initial interest."

2.) "Robinson has established himself as perhaps the most lethal movement shooter in basketball in two seasons since breaking out with the Heat in 2019-20. Though limited in other facets, he should be in for a sizable raise on his current contract, which he signed after starting on a two-way deal in Miami."

3.)"One of the best outside shooters in the league over the past couple of years. He’s also improved a good amount as a defender and on offense by learning how to use opponents’ aggressive defense against them to create easy buckets off of cuts."

4.)"A restricted free agent, it’s widely believe the Heat would very much like to retain the services of the deadly sharp shooter who turned out to be an awesome find out of Michigan. But someone could blow Robinson away with an offer considering he’s a career 42.3 percent shooter from beyond the arc, pricing him out of Miami".

5.) " Robinson is a 27-year-old elite perimeter shooter. Every contender needs shooting, and Robinson will be rewarded handsomely for his skill set. Robinson posted 13.1 points per game on the year while shooting 40.8 percent from deep on 8.5 attempts. He's always moving and can get shots off on the catch exceptionally quickly. He may not get as high as a maximum contract, but he'll be the target of teams with cap room. The Heat can match any offer, but how high will they go? Theoretical destinations: Heat, Knicks. Price range: $18-24 million starting salary.


Etc. Etc.
(It's easy to search online).

The NBA world loves him.
RealGM doesn't know any better.
We'll keep on laughing @ you.

Don't argue with NYKMENTALITY85.
Argue with those sports writers who see what I see.

I have no fight in this except to say if you bold everything, none of what you bold is important enough to read... carry on.


Fair enough but if you took the time to click the thread title (Duncan Robinson), took the time to quote the bold and even took the time to text me?

Well then if you can not list me your top 10 NBA 3 point shooters who you believe are better than Duncan Robinson, well, then; that means none of your basketball opinions are important enough to read...


N Y K is now on the clock.
1.) _____
2.) _____
3.) _____
4.) _____
5.) _____
6.) _____
7.) _____
8.) _____
9.) _____
10.) ____

Shoot your shot.

lol put the keyboard down... I don't care enough.

Noted, don't quote a maniac.

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