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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1621 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:44 pm

seren wrote:Milwaukee has been starting Lopez/Giannis/Tucker trio for the whole playoffs. They even played that trio plus Portis in the last game. I don’t buy that Obi can’t get minutes because of Randle. As long as he improves his defense, he can get minutes and even start along Randle. It is not like we have a clear SF that locked the position.


Obi would look even more bust-a-rific at SF than he does at PF.

Why stop there. There must be some quality minutes for him at SG or PG. :D
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Post#1622 » by Capn'O » Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:47 pm

It's been a hot minute since we've had a Lin derailment but I'd appreciate if it drew to a close.
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Post#1623 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:57 pm

Covers ground we covered here, but here goes



@51:28 goes into what K-Dot has talked about with Sexton, having his cap hold, and FA signing\S&T for 2022
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Post#1624 » by SelbyCobra » Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:59 pm

Capn'O wrote:It's been a hot minute since we've had a Lin derailment but I'd appreciate if it drew to a close.


Hey officer, what happened with that active shooter incident we had the other day in a now-locked thread?
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Post#1625 » by DOT » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:01 pm

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Capn'O wrote:It's been a hot minute since we've had a Lin derailment but I'd appreciate if it drew to a close.


Hey officer, what happened with that active shooter incident we had the other day in a now-locked thread?

It's been taken care of.
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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1626 » by Knicksfan1992 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:01 pm

seren wrote:Milwaukee has been starting Lopez/Giannis/Tucker trio for the whole playoffs. They even played that trio plus Portis in the last game. I don’t buy that Obi can’t get minutes because of Randle. As long as he improves his defense, he can get minutes and even start along Randle. It is not like we have a clear SF that locked the position.


Obi is not a SF nor should he be used as one. The reason why the Bucks can get away that trio is because Giannis moves like a wing even though he's in a Center's body. Tucker is also only 6'6" but can play bigger because he's strong as hell. Obi is not really built to move on the perimeter. He showed he can survive out there, but it's not something he should be doing regularly and we can't really have Randle do that either because he's bulkier and he shouldn't have to chase around a bunch of wings on the perimeter to tire himself out.

What Thibs should do is give Obi the first crack at C off the bench when he takes Mitch out. He usually gives Randle the whole first quarter but Mitch usually would come out with a few minutes left. That's a quick easy way to get Obi more minutes to develop and also give our small ball units more looks and reps. Then when Randle comes out at the end of the quarter go back to a more traditional look with a back up C and move Obi back to the 4.
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Post#1627 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:05 pm

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Post#1628 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:06 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Covers ground we covered here, but here goes



@51:28 goes into what K-Dot has talked about with Sexton, having his cap hold, and FA signing\S&T for 2022


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Post#1629 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:17 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Covers ground we covered here, but here goes



@51:28 goes into what K-Dot has talked about with Sexton, having his cap hold, and FA signing\S&T for 2022


Wow!!!!!!!!

Is kdot……….

MACRI :o :o!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Well, he'd be Jeremy Cohen if anyone :D
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Post#1630 » by seren » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:23 pm

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seren wrote:Milwaukee has been starting Lopez/Giannis/Tucker trio for the whole playoffs. They even played that trio plus Portis in the last game. I don’t buy that Obi can’t get minutes because of Randle. As long as he improves his defense, he can get minutes and even start along Randle. It is not like we have a clear SF that locked the position.


Obi would look even more bust-a-rific at SF than he does at PF.

Why stop there. There must be some quality minutes for him at SG or PG. :D


Are you saying point forward Randle can't guard small forwards?
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Post#1631 » by K_ick_God » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:36 pm

I think Obi, RJ and Mitch are all going to be good NBA players. Not a bust among them. Add Quickley too.

It be Randle whom we should dumpeth.
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Post#1632 » by DaGawd » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:44 pm

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Post#1633 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:08 pm

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The ones against this deserve 82 games and a full 48 minutes of Elfrid Payton at the point


Maybe the answer isn't Sexton, but whoever the answer is, it should be:
a) A player who will attack the paint\rim and actually be effective there
b) Be an average outside shooter in the mid range and 3
c) Be an average defender or better.

I don't care if it's Lowry, Conley etc, or Sexton.

Sexton actually preserves the ability to get another big time player, while CP3\Conley\Lowry do not - or make it a LOT harder.

Alternatively, running a platoon of TJ McConnell (or similar) and Rose for a year might work.

I don't think there will be anybody in the draft at 19 or 21 or even the pretend "trade up" to 13 that will get the job done.

I know at some point Sexton will have to get paid, and after dealing Obi and #19 you'd think the Knicks would want to, but they don't HAVE to.
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Post#1634 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:02 pm

Not much here. Just says some teams are hesitant to go after him because of his flaws and Cleveland wouldn’t mind bringing him back. I still think they move him before the season starts. Hopefully it’s to us
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Post#1635 » by DaGawd » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:14 pm

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Post#1636 » by Capn'O » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:17 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:...and Cleveland wouldn’t mind bringing him back...


Guess ours is still the high bid 8-)

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Post#1637 » by Jeffrey » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:09 pm

Why are you guys doing this to yourselves?! It won't happen until draft day. Knicks may see their targets there and just trash Sexton trade.

Actually thinking this a bit.. why would Cleveland want Obi other than having another asset? If their intended goal is to take Mobley, wouldn't they have a backlog of big men like what happened THIS season.

It might be Knox, 19 and something else.
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Post#1638 » by rammagen » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:35 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Why are you guys doing this to yourselves?! It won't happen until draft day. Knicks may see their targets there and just trash Sexton trade.

Actually thinking this a bit.. why would Cleveland want Obi other than having another asset? If their intended goal is to take Mobley, wouldn't they have a backlog of big men like what happened THIS season.

It might be Knox, 19 and something else.

I see Knox and both Dallas picks and maybe the right to swap later on. Why bid higher if there are limited teams interested.
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Post#1639 » by duetta » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:02 pm

Let's see what's available on draft day and figure out if Sexton makes sense.
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Post#1640 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:03 pm

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I truly find your take on this disgusting.

Melo/Lin thing didn't work.

That doesn't mean Melo is racist because Turnover Lin couldn't be anything more in the NBA than a 3rd string PG, which isn't bad at all.

Now it's in your signature? You literally carry the the victim badge and make some **** up like Melo is racist?

So now apparently any black guy who doesn't worship Lin has some type of racism against Asians? wtf

I've been reading on a RealGM for almost two decades and this is by far the worst take I've read on the forums, and trust me you can go to page 1 on the GB and find hot takes on 98% of the post. But this right here is the worst. I'm actually shocked you still get to post on the forums spreading propaganda in your sig and making false claims that Melo is racist when he's been one of the most selfless guys in the league in the past couple of seasons. Where as Lin is too busy crying victim and crying to the world why he doesn't have a job in the NBA and has to play back up in the CBA because he's not even in the best guard in that league.

Lin was just turnover prone and streaky. No way Knicks needed to keep him when he was never a top 25 guard in the league.

Folks like you is what's toxic to basketball. Because instead of loving the sport and the NBA, you become obsessed and have to assume everyone has to worship Lin because he shares your race. Grow up. Your take is hot caca and you represent fake-victim culture looking for sympathy and trying to stain other men's name in the crusade for you to spread nonsense about racism that never happen.

Lin leaving NY was one of the best things for NY and he didn't amount to anything except failing at every role he was given with every team. There was no "fit" for Lin because theres better players who do what he does at a higher level. That has nothing to do with racism. You're soft.


Let me try to reason. First, I think the reverse of what you said is true. Just like one can be an Asian American social justice warrior and be racist towards blacks (or at least do racist things), one can be a Black American social justice warrior and still do racist things against Asians. As for black and Asian issues, you know those dynamics exist. The point I made is what you’re making. You can do a lot of stuff for social justice, but that don’t mean everything is good or right.

I can tell you that Asian Americans have often been other’ed in America as foreigners who don’t belong. They’re also seen as robots and threatening and immigrants that come to take from others. I don’t know if you believe in that or not, but I hope you can see from recent events that this is true.

As for the rest of the post about any black guy who doesn’t worship Lin is racist, you’re reaching. Never said that. So not gonna address it. There are ways to criticize him without going there.

Second, Lin wasn’t that great. Linsanity was probably the highlight. But from where he came from, he had a great career, and honestly, the impact of his career probably is going to be bigger than his on-court results because of his ethnicity. In New York, that was part of his appeal. New York is also about immigration and Ellis Island and hope, and that’s what Lin represented. That’s why this average PG is loved. Some people couldn’t understand that too. So yea, I’m not disputing your characterization of his talent, only how much he was loved and meant to the NBA fans.

Third, I agree Melo should have never felt threatened by Lin, but apparently he did. There are interviews that prove this, and Amare Stoudemire and Mike D’Antoni have referenced that. ESPN magazine did some excellent features. He certainly had the talent not to be threatened. But this wasn’t about the truth, but Melo’s feelings, and for some reason, he felt threatened. Like I said earlier, I think Melo other’ed Lin. Since that moment, he has never spoken about any other player’s contract, never treated anyone else like he ever did Lin. KP came along and he mentored him. Did a lot of good things, but that don’t erase this thing.

Lastly, like I said, Lin owed nothing to Melo. He was almost cut from the league. Melo didn’t really treat him well. And like you all said, he wasn’t that good anyway. So maybe we can be a bit more understanding about why he might not have been ready to risk everything during those playoffs. I’m only bringing this up because this is how that whole discussion started.

Looks like your boy Lin disagrees with you
Lin said his relationship with Melo during his time with the Knicks was "fine."
"He was always nice to me. He took us out to eat," Lin said. "I've hung out with him a few times and stuff. And so, like I've said for a long time, I've never had issues with him."


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“I didn’t hear anything about it [Friday], nobody texted me about it [Friday], so I don’t think it’s a big deal, to be honest. I don’t really know what he said. Again, five years ago, I’m not really too worried about anything,’’ said Lin, who said Anthony has always been cordial, at least face to face. “When I see him I’ll say what’s up. I said this literally since Day 1: Every time I’ve run into him or had personal interaction with him, he’d been really nice to me and really cordial to me.

“I’ve never had any personal issues with him. We’ve never gotten into a fight or argument or anything, in person or through text or anything. I’ve never had anything remotely hostile with him. So whatever he says, I don’t know. … You guys can ask him. In terms of my personal interaction with him, we’ve never bumped heads or anything.

Lin also defended Melo after he won the chip in Toronto
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Oh and that amare comment you’re referring to? He already said it wasn’t about Melo
Miami Heat forward Amar'e Stoudemire told Miami reporters that he reached out to Carmelo Anthony to clear the air on Tuesday.

Stoudemire told Anthony that he wasn’t taking any veiled shots at him when discussing his time with the New York Knicks on Sunday.

“I've never mentioned his name once. We're close friends, family,” Stoudemire told Miami reporters. “Our kids were born a couple months apart.

There goes your agenda.

I also just peeped your edit in ur reply to me.
This narrative you’re pushing that Melo and his fans are racist against asians is complete bull schit. You have nothing to prove that besides having butthurt feeling that Lin’s career was extremely underwhelming and linsanity was just a fluke. You’re creating a bunch of nonsense to push this garbage take. You saying Melo and his fans are racist is equivalent to trump supporters calling BLM a terrorist group. Stop it.


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