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Post#101 » by RHODEY » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:37 am

Richard4444 wrote:We are all excited about big names and hyped prospects.

What will you feel if our great acquisitions are Schroder, Oubre, Chris Duarte, and Isaiah Jackson?

They would replace Payton, Burks, Rivers, and Noel in the roster.


Schroder - Meh :(

Oubre -Nah :nonono:

Chris Duarte -Yeah :nod:

Isaiah Jackson Yeah Yeah :nod: :nod:
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Post#102 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:58 am

Yea, please no Oubre.
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Post#103 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:29 pm

Whoever you hate ends up being good so let's go Oubre! Reading in the post today that if they lose Bullock they may resign Fra0nk. And Thibs wants Powell.

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Post#104 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:44 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:Whoever you hate ends up being good so let's go Oubre! Reading in the post today that if they lose Bullock they may resign Fra0nk. And Thibs wants Powell.

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Post#105 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:14 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:Whoever you hate ends up being good so let's go Oubre! Reading in the post today that if they lose Bullock they may resign Fra0nk. And Thibs wants Powell.

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Other than the cap implications moving forward, which I don't think would be good

Powell and Frank "in" while Bullocks and Burks out seems like a wash. If not a step backwards overall.

I did reach and assume Burks won't be back.

What are your thoughts if Knicks do this:

Trade for Sexton. Let's assume the Knicks somehow maintain #19 or 21, and Obi is gone.
Sign Powell.

Kind of locks the team in with the following, unless another trade can be made. Meaning, as discussed, getting Sexton but no one else (Powell or Ball -for the Ball fans) means Knicks can fit in a pretty large contract before signing Sexton and Randle.

Sexton/Rose
Powell/IQ
RJ/? (Vildoza?)
Randle/? (vet PF to replace Obi)
Mitch/? (vet C, preferable with some offensive ability)
Draft a 3&D wing at 19 or 21,
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Post#106 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:37 pm

Oubre is one of those players that thinks he's a lot better then he is. He was just complaining that he wasnt given a chance in GS. Sounds like he is looking for $17mil to $20mil. No thanks. He's not a good fit here anyway since he shot 31% from 3. He's an empty stats player.

Powell would be a nice pickup, but Portland is gonna match unless they decide to totally rebuild.
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Post#107 » by BBALLER4FR » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:54 pm

Everybody against Oubre, that's the guy we'll end up with :nonono:

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Post#108 » by ag3 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:02 pm

I'm surprised there aren't wild rumors flying yet. I thought right after the finals.
Maybe this weekend.
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Post#109 » by Jay10 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:06 pm

ag3 wrote:I'm surprised there aren't wild rumors flying yet. I thought right after the finals.
Maybe this weekend.

It's because they don't want to only have Thurday and Friday and have everyone forget by Monday, when they can hold onto the rumors until Monday and have the entire week leading up to the draft.
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Post#110 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:27 pm

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prophet_of_rage wrote:Whoever you hate ends up being good so let's go Oubre! Reading in the post today that if they lose Bullock they may resign Fra0nk. And Thibs wants Powell.

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Post#111 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:34 pm

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prophet_of_rage wrote:Whoever you hate ends up being good so let's go Oubre! Reading in the post today that if they lose Bullock they may resign Fra0nk. And Thibs wants Powell.

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Other than the cap implications moving forward, which I don't think would be good

Powell and Frank "in" while Bullocks and Burks out seems like a wash. If not a step backwards overall.

I did reach and assume Burks won't be back.

What are your thoughts if Knicks do this:

Trade for Sexton. Let's assume the Knicks somehow maintain #19 or 21, and Obi is gone.
Sign Powell.

Kind of locks the team in with the following, unless another trade can be made. Meaning, as discussed, getting Sexton but no one else (Powell or Ball -for the Ball fans) means Knicks can fit in a pretty large contract before signing Sexton and Randle.

Sexton/Rose
Powell/IQ
RJ/? (Vildoza?)
Randle/? (vet PF to replace Obi)
Mitch/? (vet C, preferable with some offensive ability)
Draft a 3&D wing at 19 or 21,
That's not bad. It's a consistent 4/5 seed. Could pass up Philadelphia.

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Post#112 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:53 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:Whoever you hate ends up being good so let's go Oubre! Reading in the post today that if they lose Bullock they may resign Fra0nk. And Thibs wants Powell.

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To be fair a lot of moves have not worked out for the Knicks in the past. If anything, if you hated all the Knicks moves over the past 20 years you would probably be right 80% of the time. A lot of people didnt like Noah and Payton and were right....we are still paying Noah. Randle does look like a great signing now. Some people were right about that one, others were wrong. People usually have different opinions too
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Post#113 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:59 pm

not much news here..
Read on Twitter


One wildcard: The Cleveland Cavaliers and the No. 3 pick. There has been some debate about what direction the Cavaliers will go on draft night. Mobley has been largely discussed there, as well as the potential of Green and even Suggs. The Cavs are also engaging teams in trade discussions surrounding guard Collin Sexton and hope to move Kevin Love and his remaining $60 million elsewhere, per sources.
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Post#114 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:12 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Oubre is one of those players that thinks he's a lot better then he is. He was just complaining that he wasnt given a chance in GS. Sounds like he is looking for $17mil to $20mil. No thanks. He's not a good fit here anyway since he shot 31% from 3. He's an empty stats player.

Powell would be a nice pickup, but Portland is gonna match unless they decide to totally rebuild.


If Oubre was willing to take 10-15 million for 2 years with the fact he knows he's a 6th\7th man kind of player, and maybe keeps the contract brief so he can "prove it" and still get a big pay day when he's 26/27, then MAYBE.

But all your points are what he seems to be. So he'll want too much money, may try to pump his stats, and seems like he could easily wind up disgruntled. No thanks.

And I kind of like him as a player, but there seems to be those kind of red flags there.

Also, I wouldn't even want him on the Knicks until they solved, at minimum, attacking guard.
Not even sure he'd be a choice even after that is solved.
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Post#115 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:29 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Oubre is one of those players that thinks he's a lot better then he is. He was just complaining that he wasnt given a chance in GS. Sounds like he is looking for $17mil to $20mil. No thanks. He's not a good fit here anyway since he shot 31% from 3. He's an empty stats player.

Powell would be a nice pickup, but Portland is gonna match unless they decide to totally rebuild.


If Oubre was willing to take 10-15 million for 2 years with the fact he knows he's a 6th\7th man kind of player, and maybe keeps the contract brief so he can "prove it" and still get a big pay day when he's 26/27, then MAYBE.

But all your points are what he seems to be. So he'll want too much money, may try to pump his stats, and seems like he could easily wind up disgruntled. No thanks.

And I kind of like him as a player, but there seems to be those kind of red flags there.

Also, I wouldn't even want him on the Knicks until they solved, at minimum, attacking guard.
Not even sure he'd be a choice even after that is solved.


That is not a bad contract so I wouldn't be too upset over that.

But yeah, I just prefer other options for the Knicks. I would rather just have Bullock or Burks back. At least we know they have good chemistry. Or even someone cheaper like Doug McDermott or the right cheap vet and just save $ for something else.

Overall just not crazy about the fit. Oubre seems like a 3D player that doesn't shoot well nor defend.
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Post#116 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:50 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Oubre is one of those players that thinks he's a lot better then he is. He was just complaining that he wasnt given a chance in GS. Sounds like he is looking for $17mil to $20mil. No thanks. He's not a good fit here anyway since he shot 31% from 3. He's an empty stats player.

Powell would be a nice pickup, but Portland is gonna match unless they decide to totally rebuild.


If Oubre was willing to take 10-15 million for 2 years with the fact he knows he's a 6th\7th man kind of player, and maybe keeps the contract brief so he can "prove it" and still get a big pay day when he's 26/27, then MAYBE.

But all your points are what he seems to be. So he'll want too much money, may try to pump his stats, and seems like he could easily wind up disgruntled. No thanks.

And I kind of like him as a player, but there seems to be those kind of red flags there.

Also, I wouldn't even want him on the Knicks until they solved, at minimum, attacking guard.
Not even sure he'd be a choice even after that is solved.


Not putting this anywhere near the trade board, but I can see Oubre wanting to do what Jerami Grant did. If Pistons move Grant, I could see them doing the same thing with KO.

Real question would be: Would we trade Knox for KO at 4/80?
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Post#117 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:12 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Oubre is one of those players that thinks he's a lot better then he is. He was just complaining that he wasnt given a chance in GS. Sounds like he is looking for $17mil to $20mil. No thanks. He's not a good fit here anyway since he shot 31% from 3. He's an empty stats player.

Powell would be a nice pickup, but Portland is gonna match unless they decide to totally rebuild.


If Oubre was willing to take 10-15 million for 2 years with the fact he knows he's a 6th\7th man kind of player, and maybe keeps the contract brief so he can "prove it" and still get a big pay day when he's 26/27, then MAYBE.

But all your points are what he seems to be. So he'll want too much money, may try to pump his stats, and seems like he could easily wind up disgruntled. No thanks.

And I kind of like him as a player, but there seems to be those kind of red flags there.

Also, I wouldn't even want him on the Knicks until they solved, at minimum, attacking guard.
Not even sure he'd be a choice even after that is solved.


Not putting this anywhere near the trade board, but I can see Oubre wanting to do what Jerami Grant did. If Pistons move Grant, I could see them doing the same thing with KO.

Real question would be: Would we trade Knox for KO at 4/80?


If RJ played more like current Zach LaVine, then maybe I'd consider Oubre. Or, if Oubre could well and truly play stretch 4, and we went after him at a cheaper price to backfill Obi after he was traded for Sexton. But neither of things are true.

Oubre has some talent, but even at 15 million - a team kind of wants to start start him. How can you start RJ and Oubre?
Even with Sexton/Rose to handle getting to the rim, not sure that really works.
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Post#118 » by cgmw » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:16 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Oubre is one of those players that thinks he's a lot better then he is. He was just complaining that he wasnt given a chance in GS. Sounds like he is looking for $17mil to $20mil. No thanks. He's not a good fit here anyway since he shot 31% from 3. He's an empty stats player.

Powell would be a nice pickup, but Portland is gonna match unless they decide to totally rebuild.


If Oubre was willing to take 10-15 million for 2 years with the fact he knows he's a 6th\7th man kind of player, and maybe keeps the contract brief so he can "prove it" and still get a big pay day when he's 26/27, then MAYBE.

But all your points are what he seems to be. So he'll want too much money, may try to pump his stats, and seems like he could easily wind up disgruntled. No thanks.

And I kind of like him as a player, but there seems to be those kind of red flags there.

Also, I wouldn't even want him on the Knicks until they solved, at minimum, attacking guard.
Not even sure he'd be a choice even after that is solved.

Oubre on a 1 year deal would be SuperCool Beas all over again.
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Post#119 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:19 pm

cgmw wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Oubre is one of those players that thinks he's a lot better then he is. He was just complaining that he wasnt given a chance in GS. Sounds like he is looking for $17mil to $20mil. No thanks. He's not a good fit here anyway since he shot 31% from 3. He's an empty stats player.

Powell would be a nice pickup, but Portland is gonna match unless they decide to totally rebuild.


If Oubre was willing to take 10-15 million for 2 years with the fact he knows he's a 6th\7th man kind of player, and maybe keeps the contract brief so he can "prove it" and still get a big pay day when he's 26/27, then MAYBE.

But all your points are what he seems to be. So he'll want too much money, may try to pump his stats, and seems like he could easily wind up disgruntled. No thanks.

And I kind of like him as a player, but there seems to be those kind of red flags there.

Also, I wouldn't even want him on the Knicks until they solved, at minimum, attacking guard.
Not even sure he'd be a choice even after that is solved.

Oubre on a 1 year deal would be SuperCool Beas all over again.


minus the elite scoring ability, right?
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Post#120 » by cgmw » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:28 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
cgmw wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
If Oubre was willing to take 10-15 million for 2 years with the fact he knows he's a 6th\7th man kind of player, and maybe keeps the contract brief so he can "prove it" and still get a big pay day when he's 26/27, then MAYBE.

But all your points are what he seems to be. So he'll want too much money, may try to pump his stats, and seems like he could easily wind up disgruntled. No thanks.

And I kind of like him as a player, but there seems to be those kind of red flags there.

Also, I wouldn't even want him on the Knicks until they solved, at minimum, attacking guard.
Not even sure he'd be a choice even after that is solved.

Oubre on a 1 year deal would be SuperCool Beas all over again.


minus the elite scoring ability, right?

Idk what it says about a player when his ceiling is Mike Beasley but prettier.
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