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The Toronto Raptors and Orlando Magic have made offers to the Cleveland Cavaliers to move up to No. 3, sources tell The Ringer.
The Cavaliers have received significant trade interest in the pick in general.
While this draft began as having a top-5, Jalen Suggs and Jonathan Kuminga have appeared to drop out of what is a top-3 in Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green and Evan Mobley.
The Magic own picks No. 5 and No. 8, while the Raptors are at No. 4.
dubbmotta wrote:If i'm the cavs I'm trading the 3rd for the Magic's 5th and 8th pick. Cavs got to build through the draft, will never be a desirable free agent city.
Trailbreaker wrote:dubbmotta wrote:If i'm the cavs I'm trading the 3rd for the Magic's 5th and 8th pick. Cavs got to build through the draft, will never be a desirable free agent city.
Me personally I'd pass on that unless Orlando was interested in giving a future first as well. I like Evan Mobley.
tiderulz wrote:Trailbreaker wrote:dubbmotta wrote:If i'm the cavs I'm trading the 3rd for the Magic's 5th and 8th pick. Cavs got to build through the draft, will never be a desirable free agent city.
Me personally I'd pass on that unless Orlando was interested in giving a future first as well. I like Evan Mobley.
Orlando shouldnt even be considering doing 5 & 8 to move up 2 spots. recent precedent is a protected pick from 2 spots.
i happily sit back at 5 and 8 and take BPA to increase overall talent, which is sorely needed
tiderulz wrote:Trailbreaker wrote:dubbmotta wrote:If i'm the cavs I'm trading the 3rd for the Magic's 5th and 8th pick. Cavs got to build through the draft, will never be a desirable free agent city.
Me personally I'd pass on that unless Orlando was interested in giving a future first as well. I like Evan Mobley.
Orlando shouldnt even be considering doing 5 & 8 to move up 2 spots. recent precedent is a protected pick from 2 spots.
i happily sit back at 5 and 8 and take BPA to increase overall talent, which is sorely needed
CLosP wrote:Orlando needs to do everything they can to move up. Green would seem to be the target but does he end up going to Houston anyways at #2?
Revenged25 wrote:tiderulz wrote:Trailbreaker wrote:Me personally I'd pass on that unless Orlando was interested in giving a future first as well. I like Evan Mobley.
Orlando shouldnt even be considering doing 5 & 8 to move up 2 spots. recent precedent is a protected pick from 2 spots.
i happily sit back at 5 and 8 and take BPA to increase overall talent, which is sorely needed
You mean the precedent of 2 prospects in the same tier? Fultz/Tatum and Doncic/Trae were seen as same tiers of players. There is a massive difference in perception of the top 3 in this draft and those behind them.
Also no matter how much you increase the talent, if you don't have a franchise player then you'll constantly be a treadmill team at best. Part of why it's hard for the Cavs to trade back is because they need a "franchise" player, I think Sexton is close but not quite there, and that's going to be Mobley/Green.
njknicks wrote:NBA teams need to re-evaluate how the look at players.
Why trade up when you can have diamonds in the ruff if you stand pat.
You have recent MVPS ( Jokic / Giannis ) drafted completely outside of top 10 - Jokic in the 2nd round - and plenty of other examples of great players lurking.
Both Jokic / Giannis really is a testament to the Nuggets & Bucks going all in on there player development and investing fully into the players growth.
dubbmotta wrote:If i'm the cavs I'm trading the 3rd for the Magic's 5th and 8th pick. Cavs got to build through the draft, will never be a desirable free agent city.
My thoughts exactly. OKC could send the Rockets their future picks back. And could send more than any of the teams in front of them have to offer. We don't need half of the picks we've accumulated.Slim Charless wrote:Why isn't OKC involved in this? Green would seem to be a perfect backcourt mate for SGA. They move 6 and whatever else to lock that pairing down for the next 10 years and build around that.
dougthonus wrote:njknicks wrote:NBA teams need to re-evaluate how the look at players.
Why trade up when you can have diamonds in the ruff if you stand pat.
You have recent MVPS ( Jokic / Giannis ) drafted completely outside of top 10 - Jokic in the 2nd round - and plenty of other examples of great players lurking.
Both Jokic / Giannis really is a testament to the Nuggets & Bucks going all in on there player development and investing fully into the players growth.
It is a confidence curve, you can draft start players later, but they are more likely earlier. You can simply look up the stats and see the likelihood. You can also tell, to some degree, how good the confidence is in any given draft. You know drafts where there are guys that simply stand out compared to other guys, and you can rarely trade for those guys anyway.
Quite simply, if I'm the Cavs and I can get #5 and #8 for #3, then I take that deal only if I believe there isn't a big gap between #3 and #5 in my personal board. If I'm on the fence with the guy available at #3 then sure. If I think he is a different tier, then odds are that in a typical draft, the #8 talent probably has a median outcome of low end starter, I don't sacrifice a guy I think has star potential for one that I'm less certain on due to that.
tiderulz wrote:Trailbreaker wrote:dubbmotta wrote:If i'm the cavs I'm trading the 3rd for the Magic's 5th and 8th pick. Cavs got to build through the draft, will never be a desirable free agent city.
Me personally I'd pass on that unless Orlando was interested in giving a future first as well. I like Evan Mobley.
Orlando shouldnt even be considering doing 5 & 8 to move up 2 spots. recent precedent is a protected pick from 2 spots.
i happily sit back at 5 and 8 and take BPA to increase overall talent, which is sorely needed
Yuri Vaultin wrote:dubbmotta wrote:If i'm the cavs I'm trading the 3rd for the Magic's 5th and 8th pick. Cavs got to build through the draft, will never be a desirable free agent city.
You do not trade a dollar for 2 quarters.
