The TRADE Thread 2021

[KF10]

Shams NBA trade talk article today included this nugget

The Lakers and Sacramento Kings have discussed a deal centered on guard Buddy Hield, sources tell The Athletic. Lakers forward Kyle Kuzma would be involved in a potential package, per sources. The Lakers have received interest from several teams regarding Kuzma, sources said.

https://theathletic.com/2727488/2021/07/25/bradley-beal-mulling-future-with-wizards-lakers-pursue-third-playmaker-plus-more-nba-draft-and-trade-talk?source=user-shared-article


For the Kings I like the salary savings and getting another skilled 3/4 on the roster. Kuz hasn't blossomed like LA had hoped but he's still a serviceable player on a decent contract. Can't complain when we get off Buddy.

Pros for moving Buddy go without saying

I’ll do Kuzma + filler + 22 for Buddy.

[jazanetti]

Shams NBA trade talk article today included this nugget

The Lakers and Sacramento Kings have discussed a deal centered on guard Buddy Hield, sources tell The Athletic. Lakers forward Kyle Kuzma would be involved in a potential package, per sources. The Lakers have received interest from several teams regarding Kuzma, sources said.

https://theathletic.com/2727488/2021/07/25/bradley-beal-mulling-future-with-wizards-lakers-pursue-third-playmaker-plus-more-nba-draft-and-trade-talk?source=user-shared-article


For the Kings I like the salary savings and getting another skilled 3/4 on the roster. Kuz hasn't blossomed like LA had hoped but he's still a serviceable player on a decent contract. Can't complain when we get off Buddy.

Pros for moving Buddy go without saying

For me Kuz is more overpaid than Buddy.

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[City of Trees]

Kuz/Harrell for Buddy


Harrell opts out Kings save $10M that could be used towards Holmes offer.

Do it. Especially with several teams interested in Kuz who could be flipped again.


Edit: was informed CBA requires Trez to opt in before being traded. So, Trez or Kuz to a 3rd team?

[jeffjtk1234]

Shams NBA trade talk article today included this nugget

The Lakers and Sacramento Kings have discussed a deal centered on guard Buddy Hield, sources tell The Athletic. Lakers forward Kyle Kuzma would be involved in a potential package, per sources. The Lakers have received interest from several teams regarding Kuzma, sources said.

https://theathletic.com/2727488/2021/07/25/bradley-beal-mulling-future-with-wizards-lakers-pursue-third-playmaker-plus-more-nba-draft-and-trade-talk?source=user-shared-article


For the Kings I like the salary savings and getting another skilled 3/4 on the roster. Kuz hasn't blossomed like LA had hoped but he's still a serviceable player on a decent contract. Can't complain when we get off Buddy.

Pros for moving Buddy go without saying

I’ll do Kuzma + filler + 22 for Buddy.

Yeah automatic yes here


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[OscarH]

Combination of a lot of rumors to reshape Sac

Indy In: Barnes, pick 9 and pick 22
Indy Out: Turner and pick 13

Indy get a wing to help with the Sabonis move to the 5 and someone whom has played under Carlise. As well as move up for Wagner. He seems like a perfect fit there.

Atlanta In: Pick 13
Atlanta Out: Cam Reddish & Pick 20

Move up to get better player under cost control longer, would love Garuba here.

Lakers In: Buddy
Lakers Out: Kuzma, KCP & Pick 22

Kings In: Kuzma, Reddish, KCP, Turner and pick 22.
Kings Out: Barnes, Buddy and Pick 9

Get real rim protection in Turner, swing on Cam's upside hope how he shot in Playoffs is sign of things to come not his past lifetime of bad shooting. Kuzma takes Barnes role at the 4 and KCP as back up who could move at deadline or next year with his partial GTD.
Hope Kai drops and he backs up Turner.

Fox, Delon
Hali, KCP, Davis
Reddish, Woodard
Kuzma, Harkless
Turner, Kai

I don't think I like the outcome outside getting Turner. But could see it being viewed as some big swings when really just getting some bigger names, You feel better letting Holmes walk with this and save a lot of long term salary.

[City of Trees]

Bagley to LA, unconfirmed. Lol

[dozencousins]

A lot of the rumors talked about I brought up abput a week or so ago give or take in this thread .

Here is just a bit more info but some is more of the same as posted as before

What is new is the Kings are talking to N.O. about Ingram & small filler do I think this happens = No . I do think it is a great think Kings brass are being very agressive that deal if so would involve from what I am told Buddy & Bagley however there are talks of other pieces such as Barnes instead of Buddy but all that depends on other potietial deals .

Again I do not think this will happen at least not as of now .

Cavs and Kings have talked Kings moving up to # 3 while taking K.Love in a deal for Buddy , # 9 & filler

We have also talked recently with the Bulls for Lauri

We are very agressive in regards to names I mentioned before Simmons , Beal & Kuzma though if we wanted a deal already by now . That deal hwile Kings may do it is not the Priority over all other possibilities .

My opinion though may be wrong no deal with happen until the day before or day of the draft . This is unless the King find a more ideal trade that we are wanting in the first place .

I will say in closing I do not think the 76ers are going to get the moon like they want for Ben but that also is not to say they cannot get alot . I am 95% certain there is no deal the 76ers have involving the 2 teams were they will get Fox and 75% sure they would not get Hali either . So yes we may not get Ben but if so I am confident overall neither would be sent out . If that is the demand Kings Brass turns there eyes in another direction in players .

Will update more if I get the chance . I am busier than ever . Go Kings

[OGSactownballer]

A lot of the rumors talked about I brought up abput a week or so ago give or take in this thread .

Here is just a bit more info but some is more of the same as posted as before

What is new is the Kings are talking to N.O. about Ingram & small filler do I think this happens = No . I do think it is a great think Kings brass are being very agressive that deal if so would involve from what I am told Buddy & Bagley however there are talks of other pieces such as Barnes instead of Buddy but all that depends on other potietial deals .

Again I do not think this will happen at least not as of now .

Cavs and Kings have talked Kings moving up to # 3 while taking K.Love in a deal for Buddy , # 9 & filler

We have also talked recently with the Bulls for Lauri

We are very agressive in regards to names I mentioned before Simmons , Beal & Kuzma though if we wanted a deal already by now . That deal hwile Kings may do it is not the Priority over all other possibilities .

My opinion though may be wrong no deal with happen until the day before or day of the draft . This is unless the King find a more ideal trade that we are wanting in the first place .

I will say in closing I do not think the 76ers are going to get the moon like they want for Ben but that also is not to say they cannot get alot . I am 95% certain there is no deal the 76ers have involving the 2 teams were they will get Fox and 75% sure they would not get Hali either . So yes we may not get Ben but if so I am confident overall neither would be sent out . If that is the demand Kings Brass turns there eyes in another direction in players .

Will update more if I get the chance . I am busier than ever . Go Kings

I like the move up to #3 deal and takenMobley the best and that still leaves plenty of room fir other good moves and to trade back into the draft for another player in the mid range.

As well, acting on the QO on Davis tells me many things. It enables them to do a S & T with him. It enables them to have a fallback that they can match pretty high in case they need to ship more fir a bigger deal for one guy. It keeps depth.

[City of Trees]

From the Athletic this morning

Charania indicated that a Buddy Hield deal might be in the works with Sacramento. Of all the scenarios for a supporting player believed to be in play, one source to the situation indicated the Hield deal — which would involve forward Kyle Kuzma and would also likely require Lakers forward Montrezl Harrell to opt in to the final year of his deal (worth $9.7 million) and be included — appears the most promising thus far.

For the Kings, Kuzma (three years, $39 million combined on his deal) and Harrell ($9.7 million next season if he opts in) could fit in well on the roster that is now being built around De’Aaron Fox and Tyrese Haliburton. A source with knowledge of the talks said Philadelphia also has shown interest (unrelated to Simmons), with other teams believed to be engaged on that front as well. A Hield deal of some sort, it seems, is likely on the horizon.

[dozencousins]

From the Athletic this morning

Charania indicated that a Buddy Hield deal might be in the works with Sacramento. Of all the scenarios for a supporting player believed to be in play, one source to the situation indicated the Hield deal — which would involve forward Kyle Kuzma and would also likely require Lakers forward Montrezl Harrell to opt in to the final year of his deal (worth $9.7 million) and be included — appears the most promising thus far.

For the Kings, Kuzma (three years, $39 million combined on his deal) and Harrell ($9.7 million next season if he opts in) could fit in well on the roster that is now being built around De’Aaron Fox and Tyrese Haliburton. A source with knowledge of the talks said Philadelphia also has shown interest (unrelated to Simmons), with other teams believed to be engaged on that front as well. A Hield deal of some sort, it seems, is likely on the horizon.

Yes that is rumored I mentioned that about a week or more ago in this thread . However Buddy's name has been talked about in traded more so of late than ever . Memphis is offering to re route Bledsoe who's contact is very friendly after this year I believe something like 4 mill agains the cap could be a cap saver + filler , Dallas , Phily if they cannot land beal or Dam better than 50/50 we could get him


Possibilty if OKC & Spurs being interested in getting Bagley though we are talking to many teams in some scenerious we move back in the draft a bit in other packaging him with Buddy , Barnes & even a scenerio that we are talking a 3 team trade I have heard 2 scenerious

Kings with 76ers with OKC
Kings with Tor with OKC

Again we have talked with Dall for Porzingis

I will this I expect 2 traded 1 in hopes to land a star or high quality Player better suited for us than Buddy is etc. and a 2nd trade more so about savings on future cap . Unless we aquire a Sikiam of sorts I expect Kings to shed cap in hopes of resigning Holmes .

I think there is a fantastic chance we will see at least 1 Kings traded today that will lead to another or maybe a 3rd trade .
I do not guarantee it however Fireworks are flying !

Warriors want Barnes back & many teams wanting him

[dozencousins]

By the way we have a bad History of drafting Players from Duke & Kansas . Stay away from all players from those teams please !

[OGSactownballer]

From the Athletic this morning

Charania indicated that a Buddy Hield deal might be in the works with Sacramento. Of all the scenarios for a supporting player believed to be in play, one source to the situation indicated the Hield deal — which would involve forward Kyle Kuzma and would also likely require Lakers forward Montrezl Harrell to opt in to the final year of his deal (worth $9.7 million) and be included — appears the most promising thus far.

For the Kings, Kuzma (three years, $39 million combined on his deal) and Harrell ($9.7 million next season if he opts in) could fit in well on the roster that is now being built around De’Aaron Fox and Tyrese Haliburton. A source with knowledge of the talks said Philadelphia also has shown interest (unrelated to Simmons), with other teams believed to be engaged on that front as well. A Hield deal of some sort, it seems, is likely on the horizon.

Yes that is rumored I mentioned that about a week or more ago in this thread . However Buddy's name has been talked about in traded more so of late than ever . Memphis is offering to re route Bledsoe who's contact is very friendly after this year I believe something like 4 mill agains the cap could be a cap saver + filler , Dallas , Phily if they cannot land beal or Dam better than 50/50 we could get him


Possibilty if OKC & Spurs being interested in getting Bagley though we are talking to many teams in some scenerious we move back in the draft a bit in other packaging him with Buddy , Barnes & even a scenerio that we are talking a 3 team trade I have heard 2 scenerious

Kings with 76ers with OKC
Kings with Tor with OKC

Again we have talked with Dall for Porzingis

I will this I expect 2 traded 1 in hopes to land a star or high quality Player better suited for us than Buddy is etc. and a 2nd trade more so about savings on future cap . Unless we aquire a Sikiam of sorts I expect Kings to shed cap in hopes of resigning Holmes .

I think there is a fantastic chance we will see at least 1 Kings traded today that will lead to another or maybe a 3rd trade .
I do not guarantee it however Fireworks are flying !

Warriors want Barnes back & many teams wanting him

Do they want him bad enough fir a 9 to 7 pick swap to be included?

[dozencousins]

The main issue is they are trying to trade Wiggins 30 + million and though he fits the age range we are mainly looking for he does not play much D . We want a 2 way player or at least a player whom would defend better than he can . Warriors are trying to get Beal or Dam . Do not think they will pull it off but to do so if they can even pull it off both Pics would be in such a deal .

Do not know what will happen at this point . If we did get Wiggings which I am hopeful we do not get they would have to add 1 of the pics .

We have had 12 teams calling about Barnes , We have motre suitors for Buddy than you would have expected & Bags is drawing some interest though not as much as the other 2 . Look for J.James name to be a filler in deals & Maybe Ramsey could be added in deals but just depends on money etc.

4 most likely teams for Buddy in no order

76ers , lakers , mem & dall



I am still expecting a deal tonight but cannot say for sure . It is a waiting game to see who will blink 1st + we are also waiting on certyain teams to see what they willor will not do with Beal , Dam etc. it's awaiting game to see whom will know what they can or cannot do with others . Same as we are doing as we have 3 teams this second we have frame work for Buddy . All just depends what direction we will go & same as what direction the other teams involved will do .

There is also a possibility of us trading with the 76ers and not getting Ben .


I here possibly Curry , Thybulle or Maxey will G.Hill expiring . Keep in mind that if so can turm into a 3 team trade and some as mentioned can be to a 3rd team . Not saying it will happen but it is talked about .

Ben is still possible but not looking to likely as of now .

[dozencousins]

By the way the Kings have also talked to the Spurs abot Dejounte Murray is another name I heard earlier today

[City of Trees]

Trading with Memphis from 9 to 10 could be a good move for us

[LightTheBeam]

I've been calling that Lakers trade for months. I think we trade #9 as well.

I really want us to get our hands on Siakam.

But even if we just trade Buddy/Bagley and find a way to escape the day without Kuzma being on the roster I will be very happy.

I'm praying -

Kings out: Bagley, Hield, #9, (maybe a future 1st?), #39
Kings in: Siakam

Toronto out: Siakam
Toronto in: Kuzma, Trez, Bagley, #9, #22, #39

Lakers out: Kuzma, Trez, #22
Lakers In: Hield

This would make my day

[dozencousins]

Just learned that Kings are talking to Charlotte in a deal were they aquire Bagley . Not saying as of now it would happen but I do know they have interest and so does San Antonio though if traded he could be packaged as well to another deal .

Man I cannot keep up with it all .

Likely my last post for a bit as I do not want to blow up this board / thread !

[OGSactownballer]

Trading with Memphis from 9 to 10 could be a good move for us

Agreed.

If they really want Wagner he will likely still be there at 10 and they can pick up a sweetener to do that.

[OGSactownballer]

Just learned that Kings are talking to Charlotte in a deal were they aquire Bagley . Not saying as of now it would happen but I do know they have interest and so does San Antonio though if traded he could be packaged as well to another deal .

Man I cannot keep up with it all .

Likely my last post for a bit as I do not want to blow up this board / thread !

Char can outright absorb Bagley and it wouldn’t be the first time we fleeced them for a first rounder.

Include our top 2nd (39 I think) and get their mid round first back. Combine 9/CHAR (16?)/22 may we’ll be enough I move up significantly.

Be willing to take on Love and I am certain we could nab 3.

[OGSactownballer]

BTW Lakeshow has apparently blinked on 22. Just hope that it’s Montrez and not KCP.

We can flip him for a pick or just use him here as the b/u.