Who are the top 5 nba players if they switch to Fiba rules

[Pelly24]

Probably Jokic, Luka, Curry umm...KD and Kyrie would be up there, right there. I think three-level scorers who are elite shooters from everywhere are better equipped to deal with stuff like this. Giannis is kinda average in the FIBA games from what I see. It's a bunch of stuff that goes into it.

[LesGrossman]

Whoever you consider to be the top 5 NBA players now. They would adjust.

I dont think Harden or Tray or CP3 can adjust in a way that their games dont rely on baiting the refs. If they could why woudlnt they in the post season when the calls dont come any more?

BTW i think its a very good question. FIBA brings out very different skills. If you have to overcome real defense and not the farce they call defense in the NBA you cant just run through people, and the paint wont be easily available as in a ruleset with defensive 3 seconds. Thats why Giannis couldnt do as much damage.

Last world cup, the MVP came from the winning team Spain - it was Ricky Rubio, a guy who gets very little respect in the NBA.

[Jabroni Lames]

Luis Scola, Linas Kleiza and Pau Gasol have to be way up there.

[AussieBuck]

FIBA rules means they call more fouls for post players and you guys think Giannis would be worse. All kinds of special.

[Pachinko_]

KD easily. I don't know why team USA has this misguided idea that they need to do what the Euros do, you'll never beat them in their game. Just give the ball to KD and let him shoot over those little kids, it's that simple. Who gives a crap if Lillard or Tatum get their touches, they probaly don't even care themselves and just want this thing to be over so they can get their medal and go enjoy what's left of their summer.

Let the beast warm up and keep giving him the ball. Dude is a basketball junkie, he will gladly play all 40 minutes and take all shots. Even the Euros in those rare times when they had a scoring talent like that, that's exactly what they did, go watch a Nick Galis or an Oscar Schmidt or a Drazen Petrovic game. They reason they do all this other stuff is because they just don't have a guy they can just give the ball to and get out of his way.

[brettski]

Steph would still be amazing. He's a shooter that doesn't rely on foul calls. KD as well with his size and shooting.

[AussieCeltic]

1. Patty Mills
2. Evan Fournier
3. Luis Scola
4. Ricky Rubio
5a. Luka Doncic
5b. Carmelo Anthony

[muzzhawk]

In FIBA,
Skills/traits with more currency:
-physical (boxing out, setting screens)
-moving without the ball
-will and capable passer
-quick release, efficient 'catch and shooter'
-finishing through contact
-three-pt range


Skills with less currency:
-isolation scoring (less space)
-foul drawing
-transition (less opportunity)
-shot blocking (guard and wing defenders can more effectively stop driving)

Essentially there is less space, so players who can create space through movement, passing, shooting are more important.
Players like Mills, Fournier etc are successful because they're rarely still. Curry potentially becomes more valuable because of this. It's why guys like Bogdan Bogdanovic do well.

If these are the current top tier players, then I'd think:
Durant - equal or more value
Lebron - less value
Kawhi - equal value
Curry - more value
Jokic - equal or more value
Embiid - equal or less value (has the skills but would need to heavily adjust)
Lillard - less value
AD - equal or more value
Luka - equal or more value
Giannis - less value
Harden - less value

[Johnny Firpo]

FIBA rules means they call more fouls for post players and you guys think Giannis would be worse. All kinds of special.

Is Giannis even a post player? He's more of a face up guy now, like young LeBron was. And, well, Giannis hasn't been playing that well in FIBA competitions (I know it's a small sample size, but still).

[Lalouie]

i guess luka now

[Stribor]

In FIBA,
Skills/traits with more currency:
-physical (boxing out, setting screens)
-moving without the ball
-will and capable passer
-quick release, efficient 'catch and shooter'
-finishing through contact
-three-pt range


Skills with less currency:
-isolation scoring (less space)
-foul drawing
-transition (less opportunity)
-shot blocking (guard and wing defenders can more effectively stop driving)

Essentially there is less space, so players who can create space through movement, passing, shooting are more important.
Players like Mills, Fournier etc are successful because they're rarely still. Curry potentially becomes more valuable because of this. It's why guys like Bogdan Bogdanovic do well.

If these are the current top tier players, then I'd think:
Durant - equal or more value
Lebron - less value
Kawhi - equal value
Curry - more value
Jokic - equal or more value
Embiid - equal or less value (has the skills but would need to heavily adjust)
Lillard - less value
AD - equal or more value
Luka - equal or more value
Giannis - less value
Harden - less value

this, no need for me to add anything. Except I am not sure about KD as more contact is a
lowed and he is a bit fragile on contact.

[BaDaBo]

FIBA rules means they call more fouls for post players and you guys think Giannis would be worse. All kinds of special.

Giannis averaged 14.8ppg 8.8 reb 2.4 stl & ast on 52% shooting in the 2019 World Cup. Not bad at all. But definitely not top 5 worthy.

[AussieBuck]

FIBA rules means they call more fouls for post players and you guys think Giannis would be worse. All kinds of special.

Is Giannis even a post player? He's more of a face up guy now, like young LeBron was. And, well, Giannis hasn't been playing that well in FIBA competitions (I know it's a small sample size, but still).

Depends who's on him and who he's facing. He tried to play post against the Nets but Griffin was allowed to shove him while he shot. This is the whole point that the FIBA reactionaries don't get. Bigs play less in the post now because you can basically be murdered there while on the perimeter not only can you not be touched but defenders can't even be in a radius of you because you might jump forward/back/sideways and even if they don't manage to throw themselves into you, they can still chuck a foot at you as you land. The NBA has two sets of rules depending on where you take your shot. It's not about where you start the action, it's where your FG attempt takes place.

The switch everything defense happens because you need to do everything you can to stop 3 shooters and if you get a mismatch down low you can generally bump, hack shove whatever with an undersized guy. In FIBA comps the NBA guys look stupid throwing themselves off their shots trying for contact and get murdered on low switches because not even Draymond will get away with hacking 7 footers in the post. It's all in how the refs call the game different in restricted area vs threes in the NBA. If Jokic was in this tournament he could get as many points as he liked down low against USA, the single coverage hack fest he got in the playoffs wouldn't play here.

Giannis got a lot of reactionary **** in the last tournament he played, it was mostly dumb. Greece are so bad for guards right now they thawed out Spanoulis to help out. They had no idea how to use Giannis and had him hanging out at SF doing not much. He was however stupidly good on D. He'll be **** great next time round as their plodding bigs should be retired and surely they'll have some small guys who can shoot eventually. It's a shame he couldn't have played for them 10 years ago.

[Hogesy]

Another vote for FIBA Patty Mills

[Ugalde]

giannis would go from barely #1 to definitely #1. lebron would 100% be #2. durant would be moved down clearly.

[tria]

giannis would go from barely #1 to definitely #1. lebron would 100% be #2. durant would be moved down clearly.

From what we've seen in FIBA games so far Giannis is the one clearly moving down.

[jk31]

I don't see why this should be a difference? Players would of course adjust. And skillwise NBA stars are far superior to anything that is not playing in the NBA.

[Stribor]

I don't see why this should be a difference? Players would of course adjust. And skillwise NBA stars are far superior to anything that is not playing in the NBA.

In almost everything except bouncing the ball. Travel rules are much more rigid in FIBA and it creates problems for NBA players that are not really good with hands.

[Ugalde]

giannis would go from barely #1 to definitely #1. lebron would 100% be #2. durant would be moved down clearly.

From what we've seen in FIBA games so far Giannis is the one clearly moving down.

I know what we've seen hasn't been great but I'd be willing to bet he's way better once he adjusts.

[Optms]

Whoever you consider to be the top 5 NBA players now. They would adjust.

No, because the top 10 players are so intercheable that a player like Giannis for example wouldn't adjust as well as someone like Luka or Kawhi. Those players would jump over him in value. Even Embiid would become more valuable.