Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC

[K_ick_God]

Interesting that teams will pay a lot for a guy who is healthy but nothing spectacular, like DD, but if you have an injury, like KW and VO, it sinks your value. But unless we don't know something, Kemba's injuries were not that bad. He was pretty productive although definitely not part of a team that exceeded or even met expectations.

He also doesn't look broken to the eye test. Moving well.

[F N 11]

Kemba has skill, he will bounce back easily.

[N8isScofield]

I don't hate it, but this is such a quintessential Knicks move. Grab a former star PG in the twilight of his career.

We've now had past his prime Steve Francis, Baron Davis, JKidd, Chauncey... now Kemba. I have no doubt we'll sign Westbrook when he loses the last of his hops.

He's 31. Chris Paul has looked just as washed a few times now and he just played almost well enough to win a chip at age 36.

[prophet_of_rage]

Still hard to believe the Knicks have two legit point guards. After years of watching washed up vets (Baren Davids, the corpse of Mike Bibby, etc) or dudes who flat out stink (Calderon, Fredo Payton, etc) we get to enjoy 48 minutes of competent PG play.

The list of recent Knicks Point Guards (probably missing a few).
Toney Douglas
Pablo Prigs
Linsanity
Benu
Kidd (if only we had this dude during his prime. Whata player)
Shane Larkin (ewww)
Langston Galloway
Jerian Grant
Brandon Jennings
Ronnie Baker!!! (how was Steve Mills not fired for resigning this guy to $10M)
Jarret Jack
Razor Ramon Sessions
Muddy Waters
Trey Burke
Frankie
Dennis Smiff
Fredo Payton

...Not a great list

Dont forget the mythical player that the Knicks would regret letting go Chasson Randle

Kadeem Allen too lol

Toure Murray
Jose Calderon

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[stuporman]

I don't think very many are concerned about eroding skills with Kemba as it is eroding health.

Although, for the first time in forever the Knicks have some depth at the PG spot with him, Rose, Luca and Deuce not to mention other non-PG ball handlers in Randle, EF, RJ, Burks also IQ and Grimes can get their own shot.

So if Thibs can control his habitual tendency to play extremely short rotations and instead spread the minutes around the health of the two older PGs may last through the season.

[DLTGWH]

Still hard to believe the Knicks have two legit point guards. After years of watching washed up vets (Baren Davids, the corpse of Mike Bibby, etc) or dudes who flat out stink (Calderon, Fredo Payton, etc) we get to enjoy 48 minutes of competent PG play.

The list of recent Knicks Point Guards (probably missing a few).
Toney Douglas
Pablo Prigs
Linsanity
Benu
Kidd (if only we had this dude during his prime. Whata player)
Shane Larkin (ewww)
Langston Galloway
Jerian Grant
Brandon Jennings
Ronnie Baker!!! (how was Steve Mills not fired for resigning this guy to $10M)
Jarret Jack
Razor Ramon Sessions
Muddy Waters
Trey Burke
Frankie
Dennis Smiff
Fredo Payton

...Not a great list

Dont forget the mythical player that the Knicks would regret letting go Chasson Randle

Kadeem Allen too lol

Randle. Yes couldn’t think of his name.

And good call on Kadeem.

[Zenzibar]

Presti doesn't buy out Kemba, Kemba doesn't come home. you want to give them credit for something they didn't plan?

Come on! Of course Presti and Kemba were involved. But Rose and Co. were well involved via Kemba's agent as to the timing, the money and committment from Kemba to the Knicks and vis-versa.

Why do you refeuseto give the Knicks front office some credit, Jezzzus.

Buzz posted yesterday that he thought pick #19 was hooking up OKC with a favor.

I thought the same thing on draft night but didn't see what we'd get out of hooking them up.

Now I'm pretty convinced that the Knicks got a heads up that Kemba was going to be bought out. And that would explain why they only went so far with moves to acquire a PG.

Wow, never tied the 2 things together but it makes too much sense. Good catch on Buzz's part.

[2020]

Still hard to believe the Knicks have two legit point guards. After years of watching washed up vets (Baren Davids, the corpse of Mike Bibby, etc) or dudes who flat out stink (Calderon, Fredo Payton, etc) we get to enjoy 48 minutes of competent PG play.

The list of recent Knicks Point Guards (probably missing a few).
Toney Douglas
Pablo Prigs
Linsanity
Benu
Kidd (if only we had this dude during his prime. Whata player)
Shane Larkin (ewww)
Langston Galloway
Jerian Grant
Brandon Jennings
Ronnie Baker!!! (how was Steve Mills not fired for resigning this guy to $10M)
Jarret Jack
Razor Ramon Sessions
Muddy Waters
Trey Burke
Frankie
Dennis Smiff
Fredo Payton

...Not a great list

Dont forget the mythical player that the Knicks would regret letting go Chasson Randle

Kadeem Allen too lol

Toure Murray
Jose Calderon

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Howard Eisley

Andy Rautins

[stuporman]

The other Frank.... Williams.

[The Lamma]

What is is health status?

"It's complicated"

[blueNorange]

I don't hate it, but this is such a quintessential Knicks move. Grab a former star PG in the twilight of his career.

We've now had past his prime Steve Francis, Baron Davis, JKidd, Chauncey... now Kemba. I have no doubt we'll sign Westbrook when he loses the last of his hops.

this is such a quintessential woe is me, loser knick fan mentality response.

kemba is only making pennies on the dollar and he's not asked to be the #1 or #2.

[Adelheid]

There is nothing to hate about signing a player wayyyyy less than he can command in the open market

[Bob Ross]

Interesting that teams will pay a lot for a guy who is healthy but nothing spectacular, like DD, but if you have an injury, like KW and VO, it sinks your value. But unless we don't know something, Kemba's injuries were not that bad. He was pretty productive although definitely not part of a team that exceeded or even met expectations.

He also doesn't look broken to the eye test. Moving well.

That's the only thing I semi worry about. OKC hasn't been one to buy out guys. Maybe the knee is to the point they didn't think they could rehab his value? Or maybe doing a solid to a respected and well liked pro to gain player/agent favor? I hope its the later

[Bob Ross]

I'm thinking giving him more than the minimum and for 2 years means the buyout wasn't because his knee is cooked

[The Lamma]

It appears the FO strategy is to accumulate as many knights, bishops, and rooks as possible. If and when the opportunity arises, bundle extra pieces for a King or a Queen. If not, be equipped to battle with solid pieces anyway.

PG - Walker/Rose/McBride
SG - Barrett/Quickley/Vildoza
SF - Fournier/Burks/Grimes
PF - Randle/Toppin/Knox
C - Robinson/Noel/Taj

Starting 5 is solid. Depth is insanely good. When you have 3rd string guys you want to see on the floor, in particular between the 1-3 you know this is a good problem to have.

[Richard4444]

I don't think very many are concerned about eroding skills with Kemba as it is eroding health.

Although, for the first time in forever the Knicks have some depth at the PG spot with him, Rose, Luca and Deuce not to mention other non-PG ball handlers in Randle, EF, RJ, Burks also IQ and Grimes can get their own shot.

So if Thibs can control his habitual tendency to play extremely short rotations and instead spread the minutes around the health of the two older PGs may last through the season.

Last season, Thibs always played a 9-10 men rotation.

[nykballa2k4]

The other Frank.... Williams.

GOAT

[stuporman]

I don't think very many are concerned about eroding skills with Kemba as it is eroding health.

Although, for the first time in forever the Knicks have some depth at the PG spot with him, Rose, Luca and Deuce not to mention other non-PG ball handlers in Randle, EF, RJ, Burks also IQ and Grimes can get their own shot.

So if Thibs can control his habitual tendency to play extremely short rotations and instead spread the minutes around the health of the two older PGs may last through the season.

Last season, Thibs always played a 9-10 men rotation.

Thibs did a pretty good job of preserving Rose's legs through the season until it got to the end and he needed more out of him because Elf was killing the team. This leads me to believe he will likely take the same care with both to keep them available for as much as possible.

Although he wasn't completely free of riding a few of his guys pretty hard so let's just hope he uses the PG depth wisely to preserve the health of the two guys that may be the most important players on the roster. The Knicks mght get away with losing one for stretches or worse but not both.

[WargamesX]

Interesting that teams will pay a lot for a guy who is healthy but nothing spectacular, like DD, but if you have an injury, like KW and VO, it sinks your value. But unless we don't know something, Kemba's injuries were not that bad. He was pretty productive although definitely not part of a team that exceeded or even met expectations.

He also doesn't look broken to the eye test. Moving well.

That's the only thing I semi worry about. OKC hasn't been one to buy out guys. Maybe the knee is to the point they didn't think they could rehab his value? Or maybe doing a solid to a respected and well liked pro to gain player/agent favor? I hope its the later

I am assuming the buyout amount was too good to say no too, plus they got a 1st round pick for him that they then flipped into two future first rounders. Kemba was great for them in the very short time he was there.

Add to that they have too many PGs Shai, Giddey, Theo, and Ty Jerome. Keeping him wouldn’t accomplish anything.

[HarthorneWingo]

Interesting that teams will pay a lot for a guy who is healthy but nothing spectacular, like DD, but if you have an injury, like KW and VO, it sinks your value. But unless we don't know something, Kemba's injuries were not that bad. He was pretty productive although definitely not part of a team that exceeded or even met expectations.

He also doesn't look broken to the eye test. Moving well.

That's the only thing I semi worry about. OKC hasn't been one to buy out guys. Maybe the knee is to the point they didn't think they could rehab his value? Or maybe doing a solid to a respected and well liked pro to gain player/agent favor? I hope its the later

It was time for OKC to make a decision. They have SGA and Theo Maledon plus they added Josh Giddey and Tre Mann in the draft. There was no room for Kemba who has a health history. They cut their loses and went with their youth.