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3toheadmelo wrote:Looks like it’s actually $106 million. Nicethe Knicks could only offer him a top deal of four years, $106 million that would extend starting in 2022-23 at $24 million, according to ESPN’s cap guru Bobby Marks
Deeeez Knicks wrote:god shammgod wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:I'd like to kick off the fretting about how Randle may do now that he's not necessarily the focal point of the offense with Kemba and Fournier in here.
Ready, begin.
it's actually rj who wiil suffer the most, he has the worst shot creation abilities. the other 3 will likely have the ball more than him. he'll just hang in the corner mostly.
That should actually help RJ. We should have better spacing and pg play. Maybe RJ gets less shots, but should get better looks.
god shammgod wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:I'd like to kick off the fretting about how Randle may do now that he's not necessarily the focal point of the offense with Kemba and Fournier in here.
Ready, begin.
it's actually rj who wiil suffer the most, he has the worst shot creation abilities. the other 3 will likely have the ball more than him. he'll just hang in the corner mostly.
3toheadmelo wrote:Looks like it’s actually $106 million. Nicethe Knicks could only offer him a top deal of four years, $106 million that would extend starting in 2022-23 at $24 million, according to ESPN’s cap guru Bobby Marks
robillionaire wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Looks like it’s actually $106 million. Nicethe Knicks could only offer him a top deal of four years, $106 million that would extend starting in 2022-23 at $24 million, according to ESPN’s cap guru Bobby Marks
I was thinking in the other thread we were saying the max they could offer was 106 so I was wondering where the 117 was coming from. Maybe they found some loophole way to add incentives or something
Huey Freeman wrote:As soon as Kemba was added to the Knicks plans Julius signs the initial offer because he knows most likely his touches and numbers will dip a little. With that, he might not repeat 2nd team All-NBA. He won't win MIP. And the way NYK is hated on the voting committee, he might jerk him from being All-star. Not to mention, risking injury. His family is growing (kid on the way) this is not the time to bet on yourself. I'm sure his contract has great incentives. He's on a high note and now he can re-enter Free Agency a year earlier, no?
WTF?
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Yes. He has bonus clauses like he did this year. That's why 5hey say he left 93 million on the table.3toheadmelo wrote:Hold up… did we actually sign him for $106 million instead of $117?
The contract can reach $117 million with bonuses.
Performance bonuses that are fairly difficult.robillionaire wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Looks like it’s actually $106 million. Nicethe Knicks could only offer him a top deal of four years, $106 million that would extend starting in 2022-23 at $24 million, according to ESPN’s cap guru Bobby Marks
I was thinking in the other thread we were saying the max they could offer was 106 so I was wondering where the 117 was coming from. Maybe they found some loophole way to add incentives or something
prophet_of_rage wrote:Yes. He has bonus clauses like he did this year. That's why 5hey say he left 93 million on the table.3toheadmelo wrote:Hold up… did we actually sign him for $106 million instead of $117?The contract can reach $117 million with bonuses.
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Are We Ther Yet wrote:Huey Freeman wrote:As soon as Kemba was added to the Knicks plans Julius signs the initial offer because he knows most likely his touches and numbers will dip a little. With that, he might not repeat 2nd team All-NBA. He won't win MIP. And the way NYK is hated on the voting committee, he might jerk him from being All-star. Not to mention, risking injury. His family is growing (kid on the way) this is not the time to bet on yourself. I'm sure his contract has great incentives. He's on a high note and now he can re-enter Free Agency a year earlier, no?
The guy is already a multi millionaire making 18-19 million a year. I'm sure his family will be fine.
cgmw wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:Huey Freeman wrote:As soon as Kemba was added to the Knicks plans Julius signs the initial offer because he knows most likely his touches and numbers will dip a little. With that, he might not repeat 2nd team All-NBA. He won't win MIP. And the way NYK is hated on the voting committee, he might jerk him from being All-star. Not to mention, risking injury. His family is growing (kid on the way) this is not the time to bet on yourself. I'm sure his contract has great incentives. He's on a high note and now he can re-enter Free Agency a year earlier, no?
The guy is already a multi millionaire making 18-19 million a year. I'm sure his family will be fine.
As ridiculous and impossible to imagine as it is, NBA players and other multi-millionaires actually do care about the difference between $19m and $38m.
Shaq is supposed to worth half a billion right now, but he’s still on TV every minute of the day hustling for the next dollar. And I’m pretty sure his kids are grown. I can’t imagine what drives these guys to want more, but they all do. You would too and so would I.
If Randle took less, then I 100% agree with the analysis above that he is correctly predicting a dip in production next season, which (unfortunately) in the NY media market would have make him a polarizing and potentially hated figure going into contract negotiations. He was smart to take the money up front IMO. Solid contract for both sides.
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Kampuchea wrote:https://www.thestrick.land/strick/inside-math-of-julius-randle-future-max-contract-new-york-knicks
Scenario 1: Sign four-year max extension in summer 2021
Randle could sign a contract extension this offseason by tacking on four more years (not five, because he’s under contract next year) and have a starting salary of $26,028,000 in 2022, while earning $116,605,440 over the four years of that deal.
Scenario 2: Sign five-year max in summer 2022
If Randle waits until the 2022 offseason to sign a deal, he’s eligible to sign a five-year, 30% max deal starting at $34,735,800. A five-year max would give Randle a total of $201,467,640 and he would enter free agency at 32 before turning 33 in the following season.
We got the much-preferred scenario - the other option has us paying him $46Million in the last year!
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Deeeez Knicks wrote:robillionaire wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Looks like it’s actually $106 million. Nice
I was thinking in the other thread we were saying the max they could offer was 106 so I was wondering where the 117 was coming from. Maybe they found some loophole way to add incentives or something
Not sure how they work exactly but there are bonuses for allstar, playoff and all nba defense that could take it up to $117
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
god shammgod wrote:you guys do this every off-season. i know, i know....this one is different. go on then. enjoy it. i'll let you have your dreams.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
These people are alpha competitors. It isn't the money. It's the competition. They are wired differently and with a knowledge they have a limited earning capacity and a high spending life style so the money matters because it goes fast.cgmw wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:Huey Freeman wrote:As soon as Kemba was added to the Knicks plans Julius signs the initial offer because he knows most likely his touches and numbers will dip a little. With that, he might not repeat 2nd team All-NBA. He won't win MIP. And the way NYK is hated on the voting committee, he might jerk him from being All-star. Not to mention, risking injury. His family is growing (kid on the way) this is not the time to bet on yourself. I'm sure his contract has great incentives. He's on a high note and now he can re-enter Free Agency a year earlier, no?
The guy is already a multi millionaire making 18-19 million a year. I'm sure his family will be fine.WTF?
As ridiculous and impossible to imagine as it is, NBA players and other multi-millionaires actually do care about the difference between $19m and $38m.
Shaq is supposed to worth half a billion right now, but he’s still on TV every minute of the day hustling for the next dollar. And I’m pretty sure his kids are grown. I can’t imagine what drives these guys to want more, but they all do. You would too and so would I.
If Randle took less, then I 100% agree with the analysis above that he is correctly predicting a dip in production next season, which (unfortunately) in the NY media market would have make him a polarizing and potentially hated figure going into contract negotiations. He was smart to take the money up front IMO. Solid contract for both sides.
prophet_of_rage wrote:These people are alpha competitors. It isn't the money. It's the competition. They are wired differently and with a knowledge they have a limited earning capacity and a high spending life style so the money matters because it goes fast.cgmw wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:
The guy is already a multi millionaire making 18-19 million a year. I'm sure his family will be fine.
As ridiculous and impossible to imagine as it is, NBA players and other multi-millionaires actually do care about the difference between $19m and $38m.
Shaq is supposed to worth half a billion right now, but he’s still on TV every minute of the day hustling for the next dollar. And I’m pretty sure his kids are grown. I can’t imagine what drives these guys to want more, but they all do. You would too and so would I.
If Randle took less, then I 100% agree with the analysis above that he is correctly predicting a dip in production next season, which (unfortunately) in the NY media market would have make him a polarizing and potentially hated figure going into contract negotiations. He was smart to take the money up front IMO. Solid contract for both sides.
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RIP mags Are We Ther Yet wrote:cgmw wrote:Are We Ther Yet wrote:
The guy is already a multi millionaire making 18-19 million a year. I'm sure his family will be fine.
As ridiculous and impossible to imagine as it is, NBA players and other multi-millionaires actually do care about the difference between $19m and $38m.
Shaq is supposed to worth half a billion right now, but he’s still on TV every minute of the day hustling for the next dollar. And I’m pretty sure his kids are grown. I can’t imagine what drives these guys to want more, but they all do. You would too and so would I.
If Randle took less, then I 100% agree with the analysis above that he is correctly predicting a dip in production next season, which (unfortunately) in the NY media market would have make him a polarizing and potentially hated figure going into contract negotiations. He was smart to take the money up front IMO. Solid contract for both sides.
As ridiculous and impossible as it is to imagine...your post has nothing to do with mine.
