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heatwillbeback wrote:
We were a bad spot for him.
He is laughably not a small ball 4. Being able to shoot doesn’t mean you are.
He was way too slow footed to play in our system. It was not a fit.
heat4life wrote:AirP. wrote:Kobewade11 wrote:
See this is that nut a** homerism. I didn't have a problem with UD coming back last year, clearly his leadership meant something in the bubble and he wanted to come back and see the team over the top but they punked out in the playoffs and let him down. I love the guy, no player has been a better representative of this organization imo. Retire his jersey day 1, give him any job he wants, all of that. But are we really about to do this again?
Thank you for posting this, what an a**hole he is. The FO has done very little to make this team successful in recent years, their success has come from D.Wade selling Butler on Miami as a hard working team under Spoelstra and then Butler FORCING his way to Miami and after TWO YEARS of doing very little to build the roster Butler was able to convince Lowry to also force his way to Miami to play with him.
There are legit reasons for people not to want UD taking up a roster spot, especially by fans that weren't around for the big 3, outside of playing in games, UD can do everything he's doing now as an assistant coach and can be paid whatever they want to give him to repay him.
For having inside information his opinions with that information sure are wrong a lot of the time.
Maybe a little too far there AirP. I get that Wade told Butler about the wonders of Miami but STILL, the FO had to maneuver the roster, salary cap and complete the trade. Miami was Butler's top destination but it was not a given. If Miami FO can't make it happen, Butler goes elsewhere. Look at the complex 4 team trade that almost collapsed - thanks to Dallas - but still was completed at the last minute. I mean, we got Jimmy Butler for Whiteside, Richardson, Mo Harkless and a 1st round pick.
Give the front office some recognition.
heatwillbeback wrote:I still think we need a backup 3 and pg. And I want Yurt7.
And guess what, we are at 15. As much as Haslem has done for us and how much he means for he organization, with Oladipo not playing and taking up a roster spot, we don’t have room to use that spot on somebody not playing in my opinion.
AirP. wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:I still think we need a backup 3 and pg. And I want Yurt7.
And guess what, we are at 15. As much as Haslem has done for us and how much he means for he organization, with Oladipo not playing and taking up a roster spot, we don’t have room to use that spot on somebody not playing in my opinion.
Miami can live with Vincent and Tyler handing the ball for the bench in the regular season, if Miami needs to they can just stagger Butler and Lowry to cover that situation. If/when Oladipo comes back he can handle the ball also.
heat4life wrote:dean456 wrote:What do you guys think about Hamidou Diallo? I feel like he could be like a younger slightly lesser version of Kelly Oubre. I think he'd be a useful G/F off the bench. I think he'd be a better pickup than someone like Matthews at this stage.
Maybe as a developmental player. Not a very high IQ player but can score. A poor's man Gerald Green per say but young enough to correct his shortcomings. However, I still think that Miami would benefit more from a ball handler/defender off the bench. Not my top choice but from what I see left in free agency, Avery Bradley might be a better fit.
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:If only we had a good up and coming guard on the roster, who could create his own shot and score at all 3 levels.
Oh wait, we did. And Mickey renounced him because he can't pay any tax, so now Vincent is our backup PG.
heatwillbeback wrote:AirP. wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:I still think we need a backup 3 and pg. And I want Yurt7.
And guess what, we are at 15. As much as Haslem has done for us and how much he means for he organization, with Oladipo not playing and taking up a roster spot, we don’t have room to use that spot on somebody not playing in my opinion.
Miami can live with Vincent and Tyler handing the ball for the bench in the regular season, if Miami needs to they can just stagger Butler and Lowry to cover that situation. If/when Oladipo comes back he can handle the ball also.
I agree. And while we could cover the absence, there shouldn’t be that absence of a backup pg on a 15 man roster.
AirP. wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:I still think we need a backup 3 and pg. And I want Yurt7.
And guess what, we are at 15. As much as Haslem has done for us and how much he means for he organization, with Oladipo not playing and taking up a roster spot, we don’t have room to use that spot on somebody not playing in my opinion.
Miami can live with Vincent and Tyler handing the ball for the bench in the regular season, if Miami needs to they can just stagger Butler and Lowry to cover that situation. If/when Oladipo comes back he can handle the ball also.
dean456 wrote:AirP. wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:I still think we need a backup 3 and pg. And I want Yurt7.
And guess what, we are at 15. As much as Haslem has done for us and how much he means for he organization, with Oladipo not playing and taking up a roster spot, we don’t have room to use that spot on somebody not playing in my opinion.
Miami can live with Vincent and Tyler handing the ball for the bench in the regular season, if Miami needs to they can just stagger Butler and Lowry to cover that situation. If/when Oladipo comes back he can handle the ball also.
My only problem with this is what happens if Lowry gets injured? We comfortable having Vincent start for a stretch of games in that scenario?
AirP. wrote:dean456 wrote:AirP. wrote:Miami can live with Vincent and Tyler handing the ball for the bench in the regular season, if Miami needs to they can just stagger Butler and Lowry to cover that situation. If/when Oladipo comes back he can handle the ball also.
My only problem with this is what happens if Lowry gets injured? We comfortable having Vincent start for a stretch of games in that scenario?
Herro becomes a starter and Butler handles PG duties until Oladipo is available.
dean456 wrote:AirP. wrote:dean456 wrote:
My only problem with this is what happens if Lowry gets injured? We comfortable having Vincent start for a stretch of games in that scenario?
Herro becomes a starter and Butler handles PG duties until Oladipo is available.
That is far from ideal considering Herro is basically our only ball handler on the bench right now and surrounded by Vincent, Strus, Morris and Dedmond. If Herro moves to the starting unit our bench is Vincent trying to setup guys who all can't create their own shot.
