MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time

[AirP.]

So does anyone have an explanation why Miami was ok with letting Nunn go when it looked like he could be retained at a very small number?

I get Herro is younger but just looking at their stats from last year...
Herro 1635 min, 107 3s, 36% 3pt%, 80% FT% 815 pts, 268 reb, 35 stl, Age 21
Nunn 1650 min, 122 3s, 38% 3pt%, 93% FT% 816 pts, 170 reb, 53 stl, Age 25

I don't get why one is so coveted while the other wasn't retained for around 5 mil a year, I would think that would at least be a solid trade chip at the deadline. It seems like a real waste of an asset to just let him go.

They haven't revealed the story behind it yet. But my guess it had to do with decided Dipo or Nunn. And how that would affect the cap situation going fwd. Personally I would chose Nunn.

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I would have kept them both (Nunn and Oladipo) because if you look at the money situation in 2 years, Herro more then likely won't be on the roster. If you don't retain Oladipo this year, you don't have his Bird rights next year and quite honestly, there's not going to be many avenues to get better in the next couple of years other then trading Herro. You can't let a talent like Oladipo leave for nothing... although Miami just did with a talent like Nunn.

[AirP.]

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[Umbooki]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263760/Andre-Iguodala-Agrees-To-Sign-With-Warriors

The GOAT has gone "home".

If only we had tried harder to get him another ring and put the exclamation point on his goat status.

Iggy wasn’t tryna spend another year banging bodies with Power Forwards. I respect it.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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This is so hilarious considering he was throwing mad shade at the Dodgers the other night. Dodger fans are ruthless. They’ll boo him in staples

[twix2500]

So does anyone have an explanation why Miami was ok with letting Nunn go when it looked like he could be retained at a very small number?

I get Herro is younger but just looking at their stats from last year...
Herro 1635 min, 107 3s, 36% 3pt%, 80% FT% 815 pts, 268 reb, 35 stl, Age 21
Nunn 1650 min, 122 3s, 38% 3pt%, 93% FT% 816 pts, 170 reb, 53 stl, Age 25

I don't get why one is so coveted while the other wasn't retained for around 5 mil a year, I would think that would at least be a solid trade chip at the deadline. It seems like a real waste of an asset to just let him go.

They haven't revealed the story behind it yet. But my guess it had to do with decided Dipo or Nunn. And how that would affect the cap situation going fwd. Personally I would chose Nunn.

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I would have kept them both (Nunn and Oladipo) because if you look at the money situation in 2 years, Herro more then likely won't be on the roster. If you don't retain Oladipo this year, you don't have his Bird rights next year and quite honestly, there's not going to be many avenues to get better in the next couple of years other then trading Herro. You can't let a talent like Oladipo leave for nothing... although Miami just did with a talent like Nunn.

I think the Heat are trying to retain Herro and Oladipo. The cap is suppose to increase a good jump next season, Anderson, Tucker and Morris contract will drop. That would allow them to pay dipo if they see fit. Lowry is rumored to have an option on his third season, so they might be a plan for salary relief there for Herro. Okpala, Strus and Vincent, two players need to step up to be real role players. The player I think will be eventually traded is Robinson.

I think the Heat are hoping Dipo and Herro can move into lead star players in the next two years fazing out Lowry and Butler.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Gabe Vincent in the Olympics averaged 6 points 4/19 from three for a whopping 21% in 25 minutes for team Nigeria. KZ Okpala averaged 3 points in 14 minutes. Think about going into this season with these players in primary backup roles.

I don't wanna complain too much -- because it's literally the only offseason move so far I have an issue with -- but the decision to re-sign Gabe is definitely confusing to me. Like, why? There were plenty of ultra-cheap backup PG options who aren't an absolute negative on offense... is it because Gabe is a good defender? I don't really know but I'm just gonna try to convince myself that Gabe is a good defender

[heat4life]

What about Bjelica? 38% 3pt shooter, comes here and doesn't get any run either.

Spo is just a bad coach.

Word was the Sacramento Kings didn't care much for Bjelica either. Hence why they took our crappy offer. We was just a bad fit in the whole sense of the word. A coach should not be forced to play someone who he is not comfortable playing.

Any coach who requires certain players to fit his coaching style, is a terrible coach.

Good coaches mold their coaching style to fit the players they have, and make it work. They find a way to use the talent on the roster.

Grumpy, I agree with your statement, but that only applies to players who are at the top of the food chain. Bjelica, as much as you liked him, was the 12th man on that team. You do not change your coaching strategy and system to accommodate the 12th man. You find a player that fits. Dime a dozen.

[heat4life]

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BOOM! the next Kawhi will get to learn from the real Kawhi

[Kobewade11]

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Good for him..hopefully he can stay healthy and keep his mind right, could be a great opportunity. Funny that he always gives Kawhi hell and now ends up on his team.

[insfo]

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BOOM! the next Kawhi will get to learn from the real Kawhi

I think they just signed their Kawhi replacement! BOOM!!

[wade44]

Longer this goes, the more I think we're comfortable going into the season with Gabe as the primary backup

[MettaWorldPanda]

Longer this goes, the more I think we're comfortable going into the season with Gabe as the primary backup

I think there waiting some free agents out who think they can get more then the vet minimum or BAE. Most notably Avery Bradley.

[MettaWorldPanda]

The roster minimum is 14. We currently sit at 12. We will get at least two more vet min signings. My guess Yurtseven a PG and keep final spot open for a buyout if necessary.

[twix2500]

A player I say keep an eye on for the next few years is Joel Embiid. That could be the guy who defects to the south on his own.

[Bishop45]

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Noooo

[Bishop45]

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*Gulp*

Let's go!

[AirP.]

They haven't revealed the story behind it yet. But my guess it had to do with decided Dipo or Nunn. And how that would affect the cap situation going fwd. Personally I would chose Nunn.

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I would have kept them both (Nunn and Oladipo) because if you look at the money situation in 2 years, Herro more then likely won't be on the roster. If you don't retain Oladipo this year, you don't have his Bird rights next year and quite honestly, there's not going to be many avenues to get better in the next couple of years other then trading Herro. You can't let a talent like Oladipo leave for nothing... although Miami just did with a talent like Nunn.

I think the Heat are trying to retain Herro and Oladipo. The cap is suppose to increase a good jump next season, Anderson, Tucker and Morris contract will drop. That would allow them to pay dipo if they see fit. Lowry is rumored to have an option on his third season, so they might be a plan for salary relief there for Herro. Okpala, Strus and Vincent, two players need to step up to be real role players. The player I think will be eventually traded is Robinson.

I think the Heat are hoping Dipo and Herro can move into lead star players in the next two years fazing out Lowry and Butler.

Butler, Bam, Robinson and Lowry's contracts will continue to climb each year of their contract, that's 4 huge contracts.
Next year Miami has to pay Oladipo or lose him for nothing, doubt that's happening.
Tucker's contract will drop, then you have a bunch of near minimums drop, that doesn't really offset adding 2 more possible 20+ mil contracts in 2 years.
Two years from now Herro will get paid, either he's the guy everyone wants and will command a big contract or he is just a decent scorer and will have to match to keep him.
I just don't see Miami paying all those players while being thin with the bigs, the only real piece to move for Miami is Herro or Oladipo OKs a S&T and I'm not sure he's going to do that after trying to force himself to Miami. Herro is just the odd man out because of the situation if you're trying to win it all and will get a chance to build up his value while Oladipo is rehabbing.

To me, I just don't see Herro on the Miami roster by the start of the 2022-2023 season but hey, if they go deep into the playoffs with this current roster, sure they could keep it together if it makes sense.

Logically it makes sense to me to trade Herro for a talented big but maybe Miami continues to move forward not really giving a damn who they put at PF and just get some vet, the last 2 seasons has looked like Crowder -> Harkless -> Ariza -> Tucker, maybe PF is their position to go cheap with.

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Noooo

Good for him.

[twix2500]

I would have kept them both (Nunn and Oladipo) because if you look at the money situation in 2 years, Herro more then likely won't be on the roster. If you don't retain Oladipo this year, you don't have his Bird rights next year and quite honestly, there's not going to be many avenues to get better in the next couple of years other then trading Herro. You can't let a talent like Oladipo leave for nothing... although Miami just did with a talent like Nunn.

I think the Heat are trying to retain Herro and Oladipo. The cap is suppose to increase a good jump next season, Anderson, Tucker and Morris contract will drop. That would allow them to pay dipo if they see fit. Lowry is rumored to have an option on his third season, so they might be a plan for salary relief there for Herro. Okpala, Strus and Vincent, two players need to step up to be real role players. The player I think will be eventually traded is Robinson.

I think the Heat are hoping Dipo and Herro can move into lead star players in the next two years fazing out Lowry and Butler.

Butler, Bam, Robinson and Lowry's contracts will continue to climb each year of their contract, that's 4 huge contracts.
Next year Miami has to pay Oladipo or lose him for nothing, doubt that's happening.
Tucker's contract will drop, then you have a bunch of near minimums drop, that doesn't really offset adding 2 more possible 20+ mil contracts in 2 years.
Two years from now Herro will get paid, either he's the guy everyone wants and will command a big contract or he is just a decent scorer and will have to match to keep him.
I just don't see Miami paying all those players while being thin with the bigs, the only real piece to move for Miami is Herro or Oladipo OKs a S&T and I'm not sure he's going to do that after trying to force himself to Miami. Herro is just the odd man out because of the situation if you're trying to win it all and will get a chance to build up his value while Oladipo is rehabbing.

To me, I just don't see Herro on the Miami roster by the start of the 2022-2023 season but hey, if they go deep into the playoffs with this current roster, sure they could keep it together if it makes sense.

Logically it makes sense to me to trade Herro for a talented big but maybe Miami continues to move forward not really giving a damn who they put at PF and just get some vet, the last 2 seasons has looked like Crowder -> Harkless -> Ariza -> Tucker, maybe PF is their position to go cheap with.

A lot has to work itself out. Still have to evaluate how good Dipo and Herro will be. As or right now its a year by year bases. But this roster is built to last no longer than 2 years at the most. And there is still a watch for disgruntled stars. Look out for Embiid. And Robinson is likely the guy who will be first in line to be traded after next season.

[heat4life]

Jeff Teague is available also. Another option as a backup in case we don't want Avery Bradley.