doclinkin wrote:payitforward wrote:(more of the same)
Were you quoting someone or just being generally disagreeable?
Here I posted a video saying Baby Holiday shoots a pretty 3. Not that he is already great. Or good. Hell even in this thread I said that if he develops as he had been (before last year where he was moved off ball and on a team decimated by injury and for a coach who lost the respect of his team and was apparently clinically depressed) that he *could eventually become* a *competent* starter. But yeah he hits a pretty three and defends well. Video was provided to add content and value. Confirmed: looks smooth outside, crappy inside.
Stats agree? He has hit nearly 40% his 2nd year, a career 37% from 3. That's a solid percentage. Crappy inside: .425 career from 2pt. Defense:
Opponent stats suggest when he is at his normal position (his 1st 2 seasons) and in a competent defensive scheme he holds opposing point guards below their average in shooting %'s, and forces them out of their comfort zone.
Now ok. You've made it clear you disapprove of the trade for Holiday. Question: Do you think no one has heard your opinion on that? Is there new information you'd like to offer? Because if you constantly rush in to pi55 on the campfire as soon as someone thinks about roasting a marshmallow, well, folks may end up dragging your tent to the lake when you fall asleep. Then all sing Kumbaya while you splash around and cuss.
I should have made it clear that I was speaking to natp4's reply to your video -- in which he suggested that Aaron Holiday's first 2 years showed "a competent starting point guard."
You didn't say anything of that kind. You said, in effect, "Take a look. See? He's good at something." That's worth saying. Then you said, essentially, "if he continues to develop (i.e. gets better), he'll be better (i.e. have continued to develop)." Anodyne, & by definition is true of absolutely any player (of anyone doing anything whatever!).
Still... let me continue along the same lines: if Holiday gets back to shooting the 3 at the % he posted his 2d year, while shooting the number of them he did as a rookie (& also shooting the 2 as well, & getting to the line at least as often as he did his rookie year -- yet shooting the FT% of his 2d year), & he also gets steals at the level of his 3d year (but fouls only as often as his 2d year) ... if he does all these things plus he also makes a few other improvements in his game, well then he has a shot to reach the level of an average NBA point guard. Not an average starter, mind you, just an overall average PG.
Combine all that with being a good defender, & it would make Aaron Holiday a player worth having. Right now, however, they are still walking around the Front Office in Indiana, exclaiming "Do you believe we traded Aaron for the 22d pick in the 2021 draft? Plus... what is his name...? Oh yeah, Isaiah Todd?"
OTOH, if he's a killer defender... hey, then maybe I'm wrong.