ATL - NBA to investigate Lowry/Ball deals for tampering, pg. 81

Ayt · Post #1901 » by **Ayt** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:25 pm

I don't see the connection between Rozier and Schroder. Rozier has turned himself into a high volume three point shooting SG who can also play make a bit. That fits well next to LaMelo. Schroder is a point guard who isn't good at much of anything, and thinks he's a lot better than he is.

emunney · Post #1902 » by **emunney** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:41 pm

I think the mistake was choosing to keep Rozier over Graham and Monk, but given they already did that, I don't think this contract is that bad in the context of 20ppg 26 year olds. I would have let someone else give it to him but I think they would have.

emunney · Post #1903 » by **emunney** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:44 pm

I take Graham over Rozier in a vacuum so letting Graham walk for half of what you then give Rozier is ugly to me.

DrWood · Post #1904 » by **DrWood** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:02 pm

Wonka wrote:Name one player in the Bulls starting lineup who has the ability to make their team genuinely better when it matters. Because I don’t see anything there other than points per game and a lack of defensive effort.

lonzo for sure. DeRozen is a pretty good facilitator.

DrWood · Post #1905 » by **DrWood** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:10 pm

DingleJerry wrote:Right, everyone laughed at his last contract too and he proved them wrong and has been solid. Yea, sure he'd be better at 15-18 mil per year but I would be laughing at if he got max contract, not a big chunk less than max like he got here. Do I think he can be the lead G on a title team as the 2nd best player, probably not. But he's a solid player and only 27. I'd call it slight overpay (based on absurd NBA market) not laughable overpay, like a max would've been.

He's become a solid, high-volume-3-shooting 6'1" combo guard who doesn't offer much on defense. Those guys will always have a job in the NBA, but they aren't great choices for a core player on a team that wants to compete for a championship.

Matches Malone · Post #1906 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:35 pm

Between this and his gushing of Khris and Jrue during the Olympics... I think I kinda like KD :lol:

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buckboy · Post #1907 » by **buckboy** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:40 pm

buckboy · Post #1908 » by **buckboy** » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:41 pm

LuessiT wrote:
buckboy wrote:$24MM/year for Terry Rozier.

What's wrong with that? Rozier was pretty damn good.

Yeah, he's super. Definitely want to pay a guy like Rozier 24 per.

As long as the goal is to never win anything.

crkone · Post #1909 » by **crkone** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:33 am

Matches Malone wrote:Between this and his gushing of Khris and Jrue during the Olympics... I think I kinda like KD

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Is this KDs burner RealGM acct?

Pachinko_ · Post #1910 » by **Pachinko_** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:43 am

I got nothing against KD. He's just a basketball freak who shoots hoops, smokes weed and wastes time online because he can and he likes it.

We tried to make it his problem to protect the competitiveness of the League, while at the same time we're blaming people for not winning rings because we're collectively really bad at understanding numbers and individual player performance, so rings is a good enough measure to break peoples balls. Doesn't make any sense, so KD said **** you and did whatever the **** he wanted. Perfectly normal reaction in my books. I like Giannis's reaction better, but wouldn't blame anyone for saying **** you either. Popular basketball logic is really bad.

Milbucks96 · Post #1911 » by **Milbucks96** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:44 am

People get too worked up on yearly numbers with contracts. Rozier is going to be tradable for every year of that contract unless he has a serious injury. Same thing with Marcus smart(trade kicker but still), nothing wrong with either contract. We’re going to be paying jrue 30 plus million into his mid 30s.

LuessiT · Post #1912 » by **LuessiT** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:49 pm

emunney wrote:I take Graham over Rozier in a vacuum so letting Graham walk for half of what you then give Rozier is ugly to me.

Really? I don't think Graham has a place as a prominent player on a championship team. You need to absolutely hide him defensively and he's not good enough offensively to warrant that imo.

emunney · Post #1913 » by **emunney** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:32 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Between this and his gushing of Khris and Jrue during the Olympics... I think I kinda like KD

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At the same time, I wonder if the NBA relaxing it's cannabis rules has anything to do with KD's absolute inability to piss clean.

Post #1914 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:19 pm

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emunney · Post #1915 » by **emunney** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:23 pm

Underpaid if he's healthy, which he can't seem to remain.

Ron Swanson · Post #1916 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:34 pm

I like Robert Williams but that's a lot of money for a guy who hasn't proven a whole lot on an NBA court. Mitchell Robinson's agent is probably doing cartwheels right now.

buckboy · Post #1917 » by **buckboy** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:09 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:People get too worked up on yearly numbers with contracts. Rozier is going to be tradable for every year of that contract unless he has a serious injury. Same thing with Marcus smart(trade kicker but still), nothing wrong with either contract. We’re going to be paying jrue 30 plus million into his mid 30s.

Rozier at 24 per is crazy, but I could see that making some sense on a contender. Like if you're going for it and he's your 4th or 5th best player. That's the only way this deal makes any sense for Charlotte is if they can trade him, and

machu46 · Post #1918 » by **machu46** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:58 pm

Seems like a fine deal for Williams. It is kinda interesting Boston decided to punt on having a max slot. Seems they’re setting themselves up for a trade instead, similar to the Knicks.

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BroncoBuck · Post #1919 » by **BroncoBuck** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:58 pm

Boston seems like a circus this off-season

Ron Swanson · Post #1920 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:11 pm

I think the moves they've made in a vacuum are fine. Smart/Schroder/Tatum/Brown/Horford/Williams is a solid enough Top-6. Pritchard, Grant Williams, and Nesmith are young guys that can improve. Who knows how good of a coach Udoka is gonna be though. And their entire path to being legit championship contenders continues to hinge on both Tatum and Brown becoming superstar level guys. You can't have both plateauing as "just" really good, All-Star caliber guys because in this league, that's not enough.