DWhiteMamba wrote:ShootersShoot wrote:DWhiteMamba wrote:It's not about adding up guys who can hit a 3; it's about asking how many will be on the court at any given time, and how many of them can hit a shot if they're not WIIDDE open. Vuc and Ball can only hit wide open 3s; in Ball's case because he can't create separation and has a low release on his weird form. So for them to GET open, there has to be something creating those overlaps, otherwise they're not as helpful. Because your starting line-up will have DDR in it, there's one guy they can always sag off. The only guy who is a wetter from 3 in the starters is Lavine. Williams is a big question mark about how well he can shoot still. DDR also occupies the same space Vuc uses, which is why Thad couldn't start last year. If you were starting Coby White and DDR was 6th man I'd feel alot better about your spacing.
You don't think DD and Lavine can help create three point shots for spot up shooters? I feel like that is one of DD's strengths.
I also think Coby is underrated from three. The last 30 games he played, he shot 38% on over 6 attempts. As for the thad young comparison, DD is a MUCH better creator and shooter than him despite not having three point range. Why would he have an issue surrounded by multiple high volume, high percentage three point shooters as opposed to say, him guarding big wings? I certainly dont consider spacing a weakness of the team. IMO at WORST, they will be an average three point shooting team.
Certainly DDR create open shots... when he has the ball in his spots, which are mostly in the low-post/high-post area, where he likes to live. So the place Vuc wants to be, and Lavine wants to get to sometimes, but now when they do they run into DeSlowzen. So as long as the guys around DDR are mostly there to space him, he'll be fine. When someone else has the ball? He's mostly useless. Other teams will not guard him and he will not shoot, and if he does he will start to lose confidence before long. By getting him you're creating an obstacle on O.
Who is the prototype for DDR in today's league? Who plays like him and is an impact player? I can't think of anyone.
Well, Vuc likes to spot up for three as well, so its not like he will always be in the low/high post. DD is about as flawed a "star" player one can find, I don't disagree with that. You said the bulls have spot up shooters and no one is going to sag off DD which is true. However, DD's going to have the ball in his hands, he's not always going to play off ball. When Lavine sits, DD's going to be more of a primary ball handler as well. DD when he doesnt have the ball in the half court will be a concern, no doubt. I think surrounding DD with good three point shooters is about as ideal a fit as you can find, despite his glaring weaknesses. I just don't think overall team spacing is an issue for the bulls. It may not be a strength of the team per se, but its not something I would view as a concern or weakness that can be exploited consistently. DD having to guard the likes of Tatum, Middleton, Butler etc however, I feel can be exploited more often than his lack of spacing.
As for what players stylistically resemble DD and impacts winning..not many if at all. Dwade played somewhat similarly on offense but of course DD aint no Dwade. I do think DD can be successful/impactful as a third option, instead of a first or second like he's been his entire career. But yea, given his glaring weaknesses on both ends, it will always be difficult if virtually impossible to build a legit contender around him, and I don't think the bulls are anywhere near a legit contender.