SNPA wrote:LesGrossman wrote:SNPA wrote:Lol. The lack of spacing hurts James offensively. The physicality and lack of touch fouls hurt James offensively. If he tries to score 90 the 86 Celtics would hurt him physically…LeBron ball wouldn’t mix well with the 80’s brawl ball.
And Bird existed. Lots of people don’t know about the level Bird was on. The GOAT all around skills player.
The idea that leBron is not even the best SF in the history of the game, let alone the GOAT overall, is having some fan groups in shambles. Just to compare the physicality back then with the collection of whining and flopping that will remain the gold standard of LeBron era (y'all remember the "LeBroning" meme?) shows the absurdity of this discussion. Just because the guy is huge doesnt mean he has the toughness to survive and earn respect. When it comes to toughness, guts, willingness to brawl theres probably 200 players we could think of before LeBron. I dont remember him standing up for himself or a team mate once against anyone other than tiny point guards in all of his career. Feel free to provide videos proving me wrong. I'll pick Iverson, Kobe, MJ, Bird 10/10 times over Bron.
I was with ya till you get to Kobe/AI.
People talk about how big James is, and he is built but from a frame perspective Bird is bigger.
You dont think AI, Kobe were tougher? I mean, haven't you seen Bron roll over the floor countless times when he was barely touched? Have you seen Kobe play with broken bones, take free throws with a torn achilles? Have you looked at AI's injury history, and how he still went into the paint without any fear? Do you realize what it takes to go in there against massive human beings when he was barely 6ft?
Sorry man but bron is soft as jelly for all i know. I just see him bully small point guards like the jet. Havent seen him man up with people like Metta, Barnes and the like. When ever i see guys talk about how "dangerous" he is i gotta laugh. He was literally scared of patrick Beverley. In a brawl its not about size. Its about heart. Bron wouldnt have survived in the 80's, 90's.