ceiling raiser wrote:Positions don't matter all that much, but haven't seen a thread on this in a while.
What do you think?
I think there should be a "Both" option.
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ceiling raiser wrote:Positions don't matter all that much, but haven't seen a thread on this in a while.
What do you think?
Texas Chuck wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:I repeat this is the dumbest. When you have to argue that Rasho wasn't a center in order to insist Duncan was never a PF.....
He was a big. And one of the 3 best to ever play. Why do any of you care if its PF or C?
Mostly because this topic leads to every other topic that refuses to accept all teams don't have 5 unique positions on the floor at all times. If someone can't understand that Rasho AND Duncan were in a two center lineup, I'm not sure what else can be said.
Yeah sorry that feels like trying to justify a position way too hard. With Admiral you could argue they played 2 centers because hey you have two of the best players in the world, get them both on the court and make it work. But you wouldn't then intentionally go out and sign a really average player like Rasho to force a two center lineup when you could go get a PF to pair with your super talented and versatile guy who for some crazy reason you think can only play center.
Just doesn't add up.
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Texas Chuck wrote:I repeat this is the dumbest. When you have to argue that Rasho wasn't a center in order to insist Duncan was never a PF.....
He was a big. And one of the 3 best to ever play. Why do any of you care if its PF or C?
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
HomoSapien wrote:I mean, he's both. He started playing PF because of Robinson but continued playing it next to guys like Nazr Mohammed, Oberto, and Ellison. Personally, I think of him as more of a center, but it's hard to dispute those saying he's a PF since he played that position.
DoctorX wrote:You have people now arguing that the Spurs played a 2 center lineup with Duncan/Robinson and then Duncan/Rasho,Nazr,Splitter. I guess the question to ask now is why couldn't nobody else replicate a 2 center line up in the NBA but the Spurs could?
The_Hater wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:I repeat this is the dumbest. When you have to argue that Rasho wasn't a center in order to insist Duncan was never a PF.....
He was a big. And one of the 3 best to ever play. Why do any of you care if its PF or C?
It doesn’t matter, but when we rank ATG’s by position, Duncan is the clear GOAT at PF but probably ranks anywhere from 3rd to 6th best as a Center. I would personally have him 5th.
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Harry Garris wrote:DoctorX wrote:You have people now arguing that the Spurs played a 2 center lineup with Duncan/Robinson and then Duncan/Rasho,Nazr,Splitter. I guess the question to ask now is why couldn't nobody else replicate a 2 center line up in the NBA but the Spurs could?
Lots of teams did in the early 2000s. Later in Tim Duncan's career he shared the floor with a second big less often.
DoctorX wrote:You have people now arguing that the Spurs played a 2 center lineup with Duncan/Robinson and then Duncan/Rasho,Nazr,Splitter. I guess the question to ask now is why couldn't nobody else replicate a 2 center line up in the NBA but the Spurs could?
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
The_Hater wrote:DoctorX wrote:You have people now arguing that the Spurs played a 2 center lineup with Duncan/Robinson and then Duncan/Rasho,Nazr,Splitter. I guess the question to ask now is why couldn't nobody else replicate a 2 center line up in the NBA but the Spurs could?
The Rockets played Hakeem/Sampson together and made the finals. Nobody really considered Sampson a PF though.
Harry Garris wrote:HomoSapien wrote:I mean, he's both. He started playing PF because of Robinson but continued playing it next to guys like Nazr Mohammed, Oberto, and Ellison. Personally, I think of him as more of a center, but it's hard to dispute those saying he's a PF since he played that position.
The Spurs played with two centers on the floor sometimes. I don't know why we care about positions so much because they don't accurately describe what players are doing on the floor, so what's the point?
It's like Lebron on the Heat people thought it was really important that we called Mario Chalmers the point guard and Lebron was the SF, even though Lebron was doing 95% of the point guard-y stuff. I never got why it was so important to people.
DoctorX wrote:The_Hater wrote:DoctorX wrote:You have people now arguing that the Spurs played a 2 center lineup with Duncan/Robinson and then Duncan/Rasho,Nazr,Splitter. I guess the question to ask now is why couldn't nobody else replicate a 2 center line up in the NBA but the Spurs could?
The Rockets played Hakeem/Sampson together and made the finals. Nobody really considered Sampson a PF though.
I'm referring to the era Duncan played in and not the the previous era.
DaPessimist wrote:Baddy Chuck wrote:DaPessimist wrote:He played PF. So I think of him as a PF.
I mean......
(I'm not taking these as gospel, but he certainly played a ton of center, maybe even more than PF.).
For the record I remember him as a power forward. The best one of all time.
He won 4 of his 5 titles as a PF. Even in '06/'07 Oberto and Elson were starting at Center.
dhsilv2 wrote:DoctorX wrote:The_Hater wrote:
The Rockets played Hakeem/Sampson together and made the finals. Nobody really considered Sampson a PF though.
I'm referring to the era Duncan played in and not the the previous era.
Pacers Brad Miller and Jermaine O'Neal. Hornet Magloire and PJ Brown. I don't recall the 03 piston's offense but by that point Cliff Robinson's game looked pretty much like a center's game and does ben wallace even have a position? If he's a center then the pistons did it too.
Two centers wasn't uncommon. Again a team running a legit 1-5 is uncommon. Heck 98 the pacers with Davis and Smits....just two centers man.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
dhsilv2 wrote:DoctorX wrote:The_Hater wrote:
The Rockets played Hakeem/Sampson together and made the finals. Nobody really considered Sampson a PF though.
I'm referring to the era Duncan played in and not the the previous era.
Pacers Brad Miller and Jermaine O'Neal. Hornet Magloire and PJ Brown. I don't recall the 03 piston's offense but by that point Cliff Robinson's game looked pretty much like a center's game and does ben wallace even have a position? If he's a center then the pistons did it too.
Two centers wasn't uncommon. Again a team running a legit 1-5 is uncommon. Heck 98 the pacers with Davis and Smits....just two centers man.
The_Hater wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:DoctorX wrote:
I'm referring to the era Duncan played in and not the the previous era.
Pacers Brad Miller and Jermaine O'Neal. Hornet Magloire and PJ Brown. I don't recall the 03 piston's offense but by that point Cliff Robinson's game looked pretty much like a center's game and does ben wallace even have a position? If he's a center then the pistons did it too.
Two centers wasn't uncommon. Again a team running a legit 1-5 is uncommon. Heck 98 the pacers with Davis and Smits....just two centers man.
The Raps played a Jermaine, Bargnani, Bosh frontcourt for half a season. All 3 were Centers for a huge chunk of their careers. The Bulls planned on a Curry/Chandler combo that ultimately didn’t work. The Pacers with Smits/Davis/Davis.
Lots of teams have played with 2 starting Centers, the issue was that they weren’t as successful as the Spurs.