Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure?

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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#41 » by HabsAndDubs » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:49 pm

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Bornstellar wrote:What? I've never seen anyone blame him for that

The billion times someone has called him LeBronze, that's what they're doing

Did you just pull this out of your ass? Who has called Lebron James, 2 time gold medalist Lebron James “LeBronze”?

Dawg this is a thread topic for a 2004 geocities message board
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#42 » by Bornstellar » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:49 pm

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rand wrote:The billion times someone has called him LeBronze, that's what they're doing

No, I don't think so. Making fun of him is not the same as solely blaming him. Clearly he has a lot of haters regardless but no one actually blames LeBron for the 2004 Olympics. This thread is hilariously silly

Implicit in the fun making is the idea that he bears blame. There would be nothing to make fun of otherwise.


Nope, that is not how logical deduction works. Nice try though
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#43 » by JN61 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:52 pm

I don't know what this mental game is from Lebron fans but definitely false.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#44 » by art_tatum » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:52 pm

1 guy maybe blames lebron out of a forum of 1000s in some rabdom post and "why does lebron get blamed for 2004" gets asked to everyone who doesnt care.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#45 » by Hroz » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:00 pm

I've never seen him get blamed. (Except for the 4th post)
He didn't get minutes not his fault.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#46 » by twyzted » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:08 pm

rand wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:What? I've never seen anyone blame him for that

The billion times someone has called him LeBronze, that's what they're doing


He also got bronze in 06 world cup, him and wade were leading that team. Maybe they are refering to that bronze?
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#47 » by Lalouie » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:14 pm

part of assuming the responsibility is because of a big mouth. you call yourself "king",,,own up
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#48 » by twyzted » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:19 pm

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Marrrcuss wrote:Ummm, ok. I'll play

Name one thing Jordan or Kobe have been blamed for.

Since you couldnt, now explain why LeBron fans are different?

Actually, ive hardly ever seen any rebuttal to the criticism for 2011.



Ways to say you started watching the NBA after Kobe retired.

Kobe and Jordan caught way more heat from the media than Lebron has ever even thought about.

Im talking about now.....


What should people be blaming guys who retired many years ago for now?
They got plenty of blame when they played....
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#49 » by Goomba3666 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:48 pm

Lol. His fans Googling his losses and making threads about them is hilariously weird.

I don't understand the motive. That Bronze medal was certainly a team effort.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#50 » by Goomba3666 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:49 pm

But I'll play -

There's no "I" in Bronze.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#51 » by DCasey91 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:52 pm

Goomba3666 wrote:But I'll play -

There's no "I" in Bronze.


But there’s a Bron in Bronze..... okay I’ll see myself out lol
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#52 » by Badlands » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:27 pm

Lalouie wrote:part of assuming the responsibility is because of a big mouth. you call yourself "king",,,own up


This is really embarrassing for someone with 13,000 posts.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#53 » by SF_Warriors » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:32 pm

Nobody would think this except for trolls who probably don't believe that themselves. Lebronze is just a funny nickname for haters.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#54 » by Johnny Tomala » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:01 am

It should have been blamed more on Duncan. He was bad in Olympics, it should have been bigger stain on his career.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#55 » by J_T » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:15 am

draftnightsuit wrote:Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure?

You either made that up or you've mixed up something. Or you saw one post-2015-NBA-fan trolling and you turned it into a hyperbole.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#56 » by heezyo2o » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:23 am

I forgot Duncan was on this team. For being of the greats, I don't remember him on any of the US teams to be honest
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#57 » by Liam_Gallagher » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:27 am

LeBron was actually really good in the limited minutes he played that summer.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#58 » by Cubbies2120 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:28 am

HabsAndDubs wrote:
rand wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:What? I've never seen anyone blame him for that

The billion times someone has called him LeBronze, that's what they're doing

Did you just pull this out of your ass? Who has called Lebron James, 2 time gold medalist Lebron James “LeBronze”?

Dawg this is a thread topic for a 2004 geocities message board



Bruh, you haven't been around rgm enough if you've never seen LeBronze lol..
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#59 » by Pennebaker » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:56 am

draftnightsuit wrote:He was 19 years old, the youngest player on the team. The captains were Iverson and Duncan. Lebron was a rookie. That wasn’t his team, his era, or his failure.

2004 was the culmination of the Iverson, Vince, Marbury, Steve Francis era: the rise of selfish iso ball, decline of basic fundamentals, apathy towards coaches and teamwork.

That was a thing in the NBA way before Lebron got to the league, and eventually improved with the new generation. BTW, the Redeem Team is arguably better than the Dream Team.


Only Kobe fans make that argument. They follow it with the idea that Kobe saved them in 2008, even though that was fully LeBron's team.
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Re: Why does Lebron get blamed for the 2004 team USA failure? 

Post#60 » by GregOden » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:17 am

I thought most of the blame was on 2006, not 2004.

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