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[Ballerhogger]

Nobody is giving up their star player for Ben simmons it doesnt matter if you had maxey or whoever. Stars do not grow on trees. If the wolves are unwilling to move Towns why makes you think you get top 10 star?

[BullyKing]

What about a straight swap with Portland?
Ben and Tobi for Dame and CJ? The value seems fair as the difference in value between Tobi and CJ makes up for the difference in value between Ben and Dame? Would the fit be right for both teams if they did this? Philly seems to have a glut of talented guards so maybe they say no?

I brought this up earlier 76ers fans wanted more …

No, you didn't and we didn't. No sane Sixers fan would turn down Ben and Harris for Dame and CJ.

[Ballerhogger]

What about a straight swap with Portland?
Ben and Tobi for Dame and CJ? The value seems fair as the difference in value between Tobi and CJ makes up for the difference in value between Ben and Dame? Would the fit be right for both teams if they did this? Philly seems to have a glut of talented guards so maybe they say no?

I brought this up earlier 76ers fans wanted more …

No, you didn't and we didn't. No sane Sixers fan would turn down Ben and Harris for Dame and CJ.

im not talking about that one. I said cj for ben.

[deadfeather]

Alright, it seems the value gap between Ben and Dame was a lot smaller, like a mid to late first round pick. If that's not the case I dont see any point in continuing to toy with the idea.

[Roy The Natural]

the whole idea is to get dame help..... If the blazers had to had future pick so be it.... but CJ for ben is the best its ever going to get. Joel wants to win now. He already did the process he doesn't want to go back

I fully expect that Portland and Chicago have worked out conditions in which the protection of their pick can be dropped. I still think RoCo+CJ for Simmons makes a ton of sense for both sides, especially with Nance now on board for Portland.

[Ballerhogger]

the whole idea is to get dame help..... If the blazers had to had future pick so be it.... but CJ for ben is the best its ever going to get. Joel wants to win now. He already did the process he doesn't want to go back

I fully expect that Portland and Chicago have worked out conditions in which the protection of their pick can be dropped. I still think RoCo+CJ for Simmons makes a ton of sense for both sides, especially with Nance now on board for Portland.

i mean yea but do want give up RoCO id like to hold on to him if I were you.. but if you think ben is difference between 2nd round exit for WCF or more you go for it.

[Roy The Natural]

the whole idea is to get dame help..... If the blazers had to had future pick so be it.... but CJ for ben is the best its ever going to get. Joel wants to win now. He already did the process he doesn't want to go back

I fully expect that Portland and Chicago have worked out conditions in which the protection of their pick can be dropped. I still think RoCo+CJ for Simmons makes a ton of sense for both sides, especially with Nance now on board for Portland.

i mean yea but do want give up RoCO id like to hold on to him if I were you.. but if you think ben is difference between 2nd round exit for WCF or more you go for it.

I don't know what Ben will do if in Portland. I don't know if he makes much of a difference at all to be honest. However, I think there's a general malaise about heading back into this season with basically the same team as last year. I'd rather take the swing on such a large change in team composition as a CJ+RoCo for Simmons that I don't even really care if it blows up at this point. I think that may be the general feeling of the team's fanbase.

Do I want to give up RoCo in the deal? No. However, CJ+RoCo feels like a pretty solid offer to me considering everything else that has been rumored.

[Ballerhogger]

I fully expect that Portland and Chicago have worked out conditions in which the protection of their pick can be dropped. I still think RoCo+CJ for Simmons makes a ton of sense for both sides, especially with Nance now on board for Portland.

i mean yea but do want give up RoCO id like to hold on to him if I were you.. but if you think ben is difference between 2nd round exit for WCF or more you go for it.

I don't know what Ben will do if in Portland. I don't know if he makes much of a difference at all to be honest. However, I think there's a general malaise about heading back into this season with basically the same team as last year. I'd rather take the swing on such a large change in team composition as a CJ+RoCo for Simmons that I don't even really care if it blows up at this point. I think that may be the general feeling of the team's fanbase.

Do I want to give up RoCo in the deal? No. However, CJ+RoCo feels like a pretty solid offer to me considering everything else that has been rumored.

yea thats probably the best deal all around . The 76ers stay in contention and Blazers get much better defensively.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Alright, it seems the value gap between Ben and Dame was a lot smaller, like a mid to late first round pick. If that's not the case I dont see any point in continuing to toy with the idea.

deadfeather we know your schtick by now, you wouldn't trade a ham sandwich for Dame probably the person who values Dame the least on this entire site

[Dr Positivity]

The problem I see with Philly is what are they going to do with CJ when they have Maxey, Mattise and Curry already in the rotation? I think the positional fit works well for Portland as their roster desperately needs a good forward like Tobi. So I can see why Philly fans would want more. I dont think however Portland has any first rounders and there isnt really anything else on their roster Philly would want.

you could bring maxey or curry or Cj off bench . CJ would have 6th man of the year locked up

POR out: Dame and CJ
POR in: Simmons and Tobi

PHI out: Ben and Tobi
PHI in: Dame and KP

DAL out: KP
DAL in: CJ

Who says no?

I'd rather have either Harris or CJ if I was PHI than KP.

Simmons for Lillard package from PHI would need massive add in such as Maxey and all the 1sts they can add in my opinion (would have to be 2 1sts and 4 swaps due to to owing 2025 1st already), I still think that trade is in play though.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

i mean yea but do want give up RoCO id like to hold on to him if I were you.. but if you think ben is difference between 2nd round exit for WCF or more you go for it.

I don't know what Ben will do if in Portland. I don't know if he makes much of a difference at all to be honest. However, I think there's a general malaise about heading back into this season with basically the same team as last year. I'd rather take the swing on such a large change in team composition as a CJ+RoCo for Simmons that I don't even really care if it blows up at this point. I think that may be the general feeling of the team's fanbase.

Do I want to give up RoCo in the deal? No. However, CJ+RoCo feels like a pretty solid offer to me considering everything else that has been rumored.

yea thats probably the best deal all around . The 76ers stay in contention and Blazers get much better defensively.

Philly has to include some additional salary back but CJ/Roco for Ben/Curry has been tossed around quite a bit and the money works well. Portland should probably add a pick as well to that, 2 years after whenever Chicago gets our pick.

(This is 100% predicated on Lillard even being OK trading his buddy CJ for a malcontent like Simmons. If Ben and Lillard are not on the same page about playing together in Portland then I don't think any deal gets done regardless of value.)

That is probably the best deal Portland will offer though.

[Ballerhogger]

I don't know what Ben will do if in Portland. I don't know if he makes much of a difference at all to be honest. However, I think there's a general malaise about heading back into this season with basically the same team as last year. I'd rather take the swing on such a large change in team composition as a CJ+RoCo for Simmons that I don't even really care if it blows up at this point. I think that may be the general feeling of the team's fanbase.

Do I want to give up RoCo in the deal? No. However, CJ+RoCo feels like a pretty solid offer to me considering everything else that has been rumored.

yea thats probably the best deal all around . The 76ers stay in contention and Blazers get much better defensively.

Philly has to include some additional salary back but CJ/Roco for Ben/Curry has been tossed around quite a bit and the money works well. Portland should probably add a pick as well to that, 2 years after whenever Chicago gets our pick.

(This is 100% predicated on Lillard even being OK trading his buddy CJ for a malcontent like Simmons. If Ben and Lillard are not on the same page about playing together in Portland then I don't think any deal gets done regardless of value.)

That is probably the best deal Portland will offer though.

True their is the human side of this . They’ve been together for awhile … dame wants to win or at least that what he was saying at Team USA dinner . Interesting see what happens

[MasterIchiro]

Simmons is a buy low target. I think he's much further from a sell-high. But Morey isn't accepting lowballs. There are multiple teams willing to get a little aggressive here. Some are hungry to propel out of rebuilds like the Rockets, Cavs and Kings.

[Dr Positivity]

OKC trades 2025 PHI 1st (top 6 protected) for 2028 unprotected PHI 1st. Allows trade of:

Portland gets:

Ben Simmons
Tyrese Maxey
Matisse Thybulle
2022 PHI 1st, 2023 PHI swap, 2024 PHI 1st, 2025 PHI swap, 2026 PHI 1st, 2027 PHI swap

Philadelphia gets:

Damian Lillard
Tony Snell

OKC gets:
Furkan Korkmaz (in return for top 55 protected 2nd or something but really for making the 25/28 swap).

Philly gives up the house for having 2 stars. Portland gets a pretty damn good return for Lillard and Olshey gets pressure off for a while.

[Wolveswin]

OKC trades 2025 PHI 1st (top 6 protected) for 2028 unprotected PHI 1st. Allows trade of:

Portland gets:

Ben Simmons
Tyrese Maxey
Matisse Thybulle
2022 PHI 1st, 2023 PHI swap, 2024 PHI 1st, 2025 PHI swap, 2026 PHI 1st, 2027 PHI swap

Philadelphia gets:

Damian Lillard
Tony Snell

OKC gets:
Furkan Korkmaz (in return for top 55 protected 2nd or something but really for making the 25/28 swap).

Philly gives up the house for having 2 stars. Portland gets a pretty damn good return for Lillard and Olshey gets pressure off for a while.

Lillard isn’t on the table right now. Period. Shouldn’t be hard for Morey/fans to understand that fact.

With that said, does Portland really want Simmons if trading Dame? Portland fans would have to chime in.

[Ballerhogger]

Unless you can trade lillard for KD , kawhi , etc the blazers are not trading him for non star … the blazers are not rebuilding . Unless they have terrible start and dame wants out ..Lillard for Ben trades are DOA…

[LightTheBeam]

Simmons is a buy low target. I think he's much further from a sell-high. But Morey isn't accepting lowballs. There are multiple teams willing to get a little aggressive here. Some are hungry to propel out of rebuilds like the Rockets, Cavs and Kings.

I imagine Rockets aren't offering Green.
Cavs are probably offering 1 of Sexton/Garland with Love
And I think if the Kings were willing to give any of Mitchell/Hali/Fox it would be done by now.

[JRoy]

What about a straight swap with Portland?
Ben and Tobi for Dame and CJ? The value seems fair as the difference in value between Tobi and CJ makes up for the difference in value between Ben and Dame? Would the fit be right for both teams if they did this? Philly seems to have a glut of talented guards so maybe they say no?

Hard no for POR.

CJ is a solid player on a crazy contract, Harris is a solid player on a worse contract and Lillard is substantially more valuable than Simmons.

No amount of mediocre youth and late picks will bridge that gap.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

OKC trades 2025 PHI 1st (top 6 protected) for 2028 unprotected PHI 1st. Allows trade of:

Portland gets:

Ben Simmons
Tyrese Maxey
Matisse Thybulle
2022 PHI 1st, 2023 PHI swap, 2024 PHI 1st, 2025 PHI swap, 2026 PHI 1st, 2027 PHI swap

Philadelphia gets:

Damian Lillard
Tony Snell

OKC gets:
Furkan Korkmaz (in return for top 55 protected 2nd or something but really for making the 25/28 swap).

Philly gives up the house for having 2 stars. Portland gets a pretty damn good return for Lillard and Olshey gets pressure off for a while.

Olshey isn't going to get any pressure off if he trades Lillard, we will call for his head because he bungled one of the best players to happen to our team in a long time. From both online and in real conversations I can tell you it is NOT a popular idea here in Ripcity.

Lillard is not going to be traded for Ben Simmons.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

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