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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#81 » by Wolveswin » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:29 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:I have never in my life agreed to disagree. What's the point of doing that. We can disagree with no agreement to do it in place.

Sold. See what I did there. :lol:

No I don't see what you did there, but it seems you are agreeing that we have no need to agree to disagree :lol: :o

Which is agreeing to disagree.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#82 » by KGdaBom » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:31 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:Jonny K said something big happened and the straw broke the camels back

Can’t go on record right now. Lots of drama in the front office.

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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#83 » by UnFadeable21 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:31 pm

Jonny Athletic said Rosas blocked Gupta twice from getting promoted and hired to other organizations.

Said Gersson did something else that sealed his fate, his own doing.

Lore and Arod played a big part in final decision.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#84 » by KGdaBom » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:32 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
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Wolveswin wrote:Sold. See what I did there. :lol:

No I don't see what you did there, but it seems you are agreeing that we have no need to agree to disagree :lol: :o

Which is agreeing to disagree.

It is? :noway: :crazy: :nonono:
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#85 » by SO_MONEY » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:33 pm

Tampering, sexual harassment, abuse I think are the most probable causes for an instant firing, if that is what this was and it kind of seems like it...but maybe we are just going into rebuild again? Lol.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#86 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:35 pm

Sheesh… doesn’t Rosas have a few young kiddos? That can’t be good
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#87 » by winforlose » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:38 pm

For me the question going forward is are we more or less likely to trade for Simmons now? Either Rosas really wanted him and this move takes us further away from him, or Rosas was against trading for Simmons and this move takes us closer. I am not sure which but it will become apparent soon.

As for the firing itself, this move screams new ownership. Although the failure to secure a new PF and the very low sales price of Culver probably hastened his departure.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#88 » by Dan33185 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:42 pm

I would be really surprised if this ended being a basketball related decision, sounds like something else happened to trigger this.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#89 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:44 pm

Araxen wrote:
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Read on Twitter
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lol if this is true wtf


The dude has 55 followers. Why would anyone give this tweet any credence.

Well he called the firing 8 weeks ago

Read on Twitter
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Post#90 » by flyindutchman » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:50 pm

Foye wrote:Whatever he built was going nowhere.
Roster got worse in the offseason once again.

Lets see if the organization will make the right decision now for once with a new guy.

Finally, a voice of reason. Besides turnover, I really don’t see why everyone here is so shocked/hurt. He was great at shuffling bench talent and interviews. Did next to nothing to turn the franchise around.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#91 » by flyindutchman » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:50 pm

Foye wrote:Whatever he built was going nowhere.
Roster got worse in the offseason once again.

Lets see if the organization will make the right decision now for once with a new guy.

Finally, a voice of reason. Besides turnover, I really don’t see why everyone here is so shocked/hurt. He was great at shuffling bench talent and interviews. Did next to nothing to turn the franchise around.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#92 » by KGdaBom » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:51 pm

Dan33185 wrote:I would be really surprised if this ended being a basketball related decision, sounds like something else happened to trigger this.

Definitely personality clashes going on. Rumors of more.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#93 » by Foye » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:52 pm

D1SGRUNTL3D wrote:
Araxen wrote:
UnFadeable21 wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=21

lol if this is true wtf


The dude has 55 followers. Why would anyone give this tweet any credence.

Well he called the firing 8 weeks ago

Read on Twitter
?s=20


People need to stop giving a damn about followers.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#94 » by KGdaBom » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:53 pm

flyindutchman wrote:
Foye wrote:Whatever he built was going nowhere.
Roster got worse in the offseason once again.

Lets see if the organization will make the right decision now for once with a new guy.

Finally, a voice of reason. Besides turnover, I really don’t see why everyone here is so shocked/hurt. He was great at shuffling bench talent and interviews. Did next to nothing to turn the franchise around.

Trust me. Foye has never been accused of being a voice of reason before and will probably never be again.

Most of us saw some great progress with last years draft picks. We had vision for a big turnaround. The shock is if we were going to do this it should have been done months ago. Not right before training camp.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#95 » by Nick K » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:54 pm

Calinks wrote:Maybe I'm overreacting but I can't shake the feeling that this is a really really costly move and things will be very different going forward. This feels like the beginning of the end and that sucks. I just don't think winning organizations do stuff like this. My optimism for this team in the short term has just taken a massive hit. :nonono:


That was my initial response too. After reflection it might not be so bad. Gupta will take over. He's a bright guy.

Apparently this was all Rosas doing. Jonny K said no one else to blame but himself. He wouldn't elaborate.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#96 » by TaylorTag » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:54 pm

I know we shouldn't give credence to internet gossip, but if the rumors are true, then what Rosas did exposed the Wolves to a massive lawsuit. Everyone knows that a manager cannot have sexual relations with their juniors. Big no no, and big problem, especially when things turn into he said she said.

This reminds me of that last Gopher AD who was fired, the guy from VCU, forgetting his name and don't have the energy to look.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#97 » by KGdaBom » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:58 pm

Nick K wrote:
Calinks wrote:Maybe I'm overreacting but I can't shake the feeling that this is a really really costly move and things will be very different going forward. This feels like the beginning of the end and that sucks. I just don't think winning organizations do stuff like this. My optimism for this team in the short term has just taken a massive hit. :nonono:


That was my initial response too. After reflection it might not be so bad. Gupta will take over. He's a bright guy.

Apparently this was all Rosas doing. Jonny K said no one else to blame but himself. He wouldn't elaborate.

Very strange. Rosas seemed like a very mild mannered guy that wouldn't make waves.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#98 » by gandlogo » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:01 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:
Said Gersson did something else that sealed his fate, his own doing.

Arod played a big part in final decision.


Rumor has it Rosas screened Argo, Gone Girl, and The Accountant for the team in Miami.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#99 » by Foye » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:03 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
flyindutchman wrote:
Foye wrote:Whatever he built was going nowhere.
Roster got worse in the offseason once again.

Lets see if the organization will make the right decision now for once with a new guy.

Finally, a voice of reason. Besides turnover, I really don’t see why everyone here is so shocked/hurt. He was great at shuffling bench talent and interviews. Did next to nothing to turn the franchise around.

Most of us saw some great progress with last years draft picks. We had vision for a big turnaround. The shock is if we were going to do this it should have been done months ago. Not right before training camp.


In financial terms...that progress you saw was just goodwill.
Goodwill is typically shown on the balance sheet as an asset but you can't actually buy anything for that crap.
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Re: Shams/Krawczynski: Rosas is out as POBO 

Post#100 » by minimus » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:04 pm

flyindutchman wrote:
Foye wrote:Whatever he built was going nowhere.
Roster got worse in the offseason once again.

Lets see if the organization will make the right decision now for once with a new guy.

Finally, a voice of reason. Besides turnover, I really don’t see why everyone here is so shocked/hurt. He was great at shuffling bench talent and interviews. Did next to nothing to turn the franchise around.


lol

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