Team vaccination status

[DusterBuster]

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I'm so glad we have Dame and not Kyrie or Beal as the statesmen of the team...

[PDXKnight]

This isn't true. Corporate policies mandating vaccines or be fired/fined have shown a credible uptick in vaccinations by those previously unvaccinated.

Also this isn't only about spread of the disease. It's about overwhelming services and hospitals. You might not see a threat from someone you work with not receiving vaccination because you're vaccinated, but what happens when there's not enough beds in hospitals/ICU beds (been happening the last two months) and people with other sicknesses are turned away? Surgeries have to be rescheduled? Choices have to be made about who gets treated or not?

We have run our health care workers ragged for almost two years to the point where we are losing hospital staff because they cannot handle it anymore. We have traumatized multiple generation of healthcare workers. We have pushed and surpassed the limits of our healthcare network and foundation in many states. We have made these workers have to choose between who gets care and who doesn't.

Which was all avoidable after the vaccines were created. For those who are physically capable of getting the vaccination (excluding those who have health reasons they cannot) to not get it at this point is one of the most selfish and cruel decisions a person can make. It shows a person does not care about literally anyone else but themselves.

Well indeed holding peoples jobs with a gun to their head over the vaccine may increase vaccination rate, but shall we just fire 15 percent of the work force who refuses after being told repeatedly that herd immunity would be reached once we reach 70 percent vaccination? These are members of the community who, while maybe misinformed assuredly are in many cases valuable members of society as much as someone who was first in line for a vaccine. We are at 70 percent vaccination and even in nations like israel where vaccination is through the roof covid is running rampant. I would prefer people vaccinate but i think it should be a choice and not held over ones head if he or she refuses. Just feels like if you want to be protected you’ll have likely received the vaccine already so primarily those hurt from not vaccination are those who elect not to vaccinate. I’m Not sure who denying the vaccine is selfish to other than oneself?

Hospitalizations yes i get that argument but i’m not sure i can judge ones character (selfish/unselfish etc) here. Who knows what the rationale is behind denying, maybe there’s medical conditions or religious objections at play as well? I do think the denier camp goes off the deep end but i also think there’s an irreparable amount of damage to the us economy supposing we wipe out 15 percent of the work force on the dime

And what do you think the damage to the US economy, since you think that's an issue, when hundreds of thousands people die from a disease?

You don't understand that rejecting getting the vaccine is selfish to others when people who are unvaccinated clog up the health care system? You don't think it's selfish to be part of a group of people who are running health services to the brink and preventing others from getting care is selfish? If you are ill with a serious disease, but one that's treatable should you reach it in time, and I stand in the hospital doorway and block you from entering because I've broken my leg by taking a hammer to my leg, am I not selfish?

Not taking the vaccine when you've no physical health complications preventing you from doing so is willfully hitting yourself in the leg with a hammer in this scenario. This is a transmissible disease spread through close proximity air exchange. Stop letting people off the hook. Vaccines have wiped out major disease and prevent unneeded suffering, mandated in the past. This isn't new. We are responsible to each other, that's part of being a society.

The damage to the economy is unimportant? Ask anyone when unemployment is rampant & they need a job or when you can’t pay your mortgage because your renters are getting “free rent.” Sometimes money is life or death just like covid.

Indeed not getting the vaccine is selfish as is destroying cities, but enforcing the vaccine on people is darn near impossible and too expensive to do if i was an anti vaxxer (no i’m not)why wouldn’t i just make a fake card?

[Norm2953]

That's all I wanted to know which is if there were any holdouts on the team that possibly could be barred
from playing at home in 21-22.

[Matt800]

The only safe place has finally been infiltrated, back to the cave.

[JasonStern]

I personally got the vaccine but i think it should be a personal choice whether or not one wishes to receive it.

I really want to have this belief as well - if you aren't vaxed and you get sick, that's on you. But the real risk is evolution of the virus. The higher the number of active virii, the higher the genetic mutation rate. We've already seen a few variants spread. Eventually there will be variants that are immune to the current mRNA vaccines.

Of course, a 100% vaccinated U.S. population is also somewhat pointless in that regard if huge portions of the world cannot get vaccinated - But that's an entirely different discussion.

Most important thing that anyone can do - vaccinated or not - is to eat right, exercise, etc. Take care of your body and it will take care of you. Getting old also seems to suck so if you can avoid doing that, all the better.

[The Sebastian Express]

The damage to the economy is unimportant? Ask anyone when unemployment is rampant & they need a job or when you can’t pay your mortgage because your renters are getting “free rent.” Sometimes money is life or death just like covid.

Indeed not getting the vaccine is selfish as is destroying cities, but enforcing the vaccine on people is darn near impossible and too expensive to do if i was an anti vaxxer (no i’m not)why wouldn’t i just make a fake card?

I didn't say it was unimportant. I asked you to tell me what damage to the economy, since you brought that up, is done by hundreds of thousands of needlessly dead? Those people can't return to the workforce, Oden2. They're dead. And what about the people who are terrified to work right now because they're scared of getting the disease for a minimum wage job by customers who aren't vaccinated and who threaten plus harass them for the policies of said business?

Because fake cards can come with fines and charges, like other countries have done.

For any of those of you who think people should have the right not to vaccination themselves without any legitimate reason why not to do so (medical), I implore you to read this thread about the damage the unvaccinated are doing to everyone else:

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Because the unvaccinated do not care about the 'freedoms' they are taking from other citizens.

[Moonbeam]

The damage to the economy is unimportant? Ask anyone when unemployment is rampant & they need a job or when you can’t pay your mortgage because your renters are getting “free rent.” Sometimes money is life or death just like covid.

Indeed not getting the vaccine is selfish as is destroying cities, but enforcing the vaccine on people is darn near impossible and too expensive to do if i was an anti vaxxer (no i’m not)why wouldn’t i just make a fake card?

I didn't say it was unimportant. I asked you to tell me what damage to the economy, since you brought that up, is done by hundreds of thousands of needlessly dead? Those people can't return to the workforce, Oden2. They're dead. And what about the people who are terrified to work right now because they're scared of getting the disease for a minimum wage job by customers who aren't vaccinated and who threaten plus harass them for the policies of said business?

Because fake cards can come with fines and charges, like other countries have done.

For any of those of you who think people should have the right not to vaccination themselves without any legitimate reason why not to do so (medical), I implore you to read this thread about the damage the unvaccinated are doing to everyone else:

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Because the unvaccinated do not care about the 'freedoms' they are taking from other citizens.

That is a harrowing read.

As someone who has lost a loved one to COVID (I’m sure others have here as well, and if you need to reach out, please do), it’s hard to see the consequences of the erosion of trust in academia and expertise in general play out like this. That my grief is a shadow of a whisper in the collective and growing grief of the world over this impossibly cruel virus, in part because of the growing mistrust in fundamental pillars of society, is like a rolling, ongoing nightmare.

I understand that people may have their questions and concerns, and I respect everyone taking the time to learn about the vaccines and their associated impacts and risk factors, but I implore everyone to raise those questions and concerns with your doctor. There is a reason that medical professionals spend so much time learning their craft, and they are best positioned to give you the complete picture and advise you of what the best course of action to take is.

Happy to hear that all of the Blazer players have been vaccinated.

[monopoman]

I have a couple vaccinated family members who got sick, and one who has died, from their unvaccinated grandchildren/nephews/nieces.

Breakthrough cases, while more rare and usually less virulent, still do happen. Your choice not to vaccinate can still hurt those vulnerable people who did get vaccinated.


Again, I personally have a (distant) family member who basically killed their grandfather by thinking the vaccine made grandad safe and thus they didn't have to vax themselves.


Plus, the more people that are unvaccinated and continuing to get sick create more opportunities for mutations and new strains to arise, strains that could be more effective against the vaccinated population.


In short, your decision to to vaccinate is not actually a personal decision and can directly lead to the death of others. I don't think it's unfair at all to mandate vaccines if people want to join crowded events. If you don't want to vaccinate then go live in an isolated cabin and stay away from the rest of us. Otherwise if you want to be a social human being then act in pro-social ways. Antisocial and selfish behavior is fine to criticize and punish IMHO.

I mean as a socially awkward individual i try to avoid crowds as much as possible even being vaccinated

I think controlling large crowds is difficult. I don’t know how we stop a significant percentage of large crowds from using fraudulent cards.

Well, you should take precautions even if you love people and are vaccinated. It's not a magic shield that stops any possible infection by Covid-19.

**** I am vaccinated and I take the following daily,

Vitamin D
Vitamin C
Zinc
Elderberry Supplement

Making your immune system as strong as possible is step 1 when protecting yourself. I am someone that rarely if ever gets sick and I still take this thing very seriously.

[GEE]

I hate shots as much as anyone, but in my humble opinion... If one CAN take the shot, they probably should... while if one CAN'T take the shot, then obviously they should not. I think it really is this simple.

F*** the Politics!!!

UNITED WE STAND... DIVIDED WE FALL!

[Myth]

I have a couple vaccinated family members who got sick, and one who has died, from their unvaccinated grandchildren/nephews/nieces.

Breakthrough cases, while more rare and usually less virulent, still do happen. Your choice not to vaccinate can still hurt those vulnerable people who did get vaccinated.


Again, I personally have a (distant) family member who basically killed their grandfather by thinking the vaccine made grandad safe and thus they didn't have to vax themselves.


Plus, the more people that are unvaccinated and continuing to get sick create more opportunities for mutations and new strains to arise, strains that could be more effective against the vaccinated population.


In short, your decision to to vaccinate is not actually a personal decision and can directly lead to the death of others. I don't think it's unfair at all to mandate vaccines if people want to join crowded events. If you don't want to vaccinate then go live in an isolated cabin and stay away from the rest of us. Otherwise if you want to be a social human being then act in pro-social ways. Antisocial and selfish behavior is fine to criticize and punish IMHO.

I mean as a socially awkward individual i try to avoid crowds as much as possible even being vaccinated

I think controlling large crowds is difficult. I don’t know how we stop a significant percentage of large crowds from using fraudulent cards.

Well, you should take precautions even if you love people and are vaccinated. It's not a magic shield that stops any possible infection by Covid-19.

**** I am vaccinated and I take the following daily,

Vitamin D
Vitamin C
Zinc
Elderberry Supplement

Making your immune system as strong as possible is step 1 when protecting yourself. I am someone that rarely if ever gets sick and I still take this thing very seriously.

And then you have people like me who have to take meds specifically designed to suppress my immune system to keep me alive, but selfish anti-vaxxers are putting my life at risk. If I ever catch Covid and die, I put the blame squarely on the people claiming it is their individual choice. This pandemic likely would have been over by now if they didn't insist on believing conspiracy theories and political BS over science.

[superBlazerFan]

If every one on earth got covid right now over 99% of people would survive but it's about "health"...... the propaganda is out of control..


Started with 15 days to slow the spread and free donuts now its get the jab or loose your job... bunch of power hungry tyrants trying to get people to give up freedom and be controlled.