Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

[DCasey91]

Sorry I'm a bit lost. I thought you were saying three young guards with potential, but now I'm reading this as four guards that can play.

They have three guards and obviously are hoping to trade Simmons for a star PG. That is definitely a hole, but I'm sure they want to address it.

Shake, Curry, and Maxey can all play. Both Shake and Maxey can play and are young and Curry is older but one of the best players in the league. They're all playable.

Can you give an example of a team that you are speaking of? Might be easier for me to understand.

Okay. None of them are starters if we are being honest.

Most NBA teams have a starter level backcourt, we don’t. Could be an All Star or higher or just very very good (Fox for example).

That’s 2 PG+ SG

The extra one is for depth that can sub into the starting unit. Think Schroder as an example. Or Jevon Carter, Monte Morris, Campazzo, Pritchard, Brunson etc.

Then there’s essentially a younger one in the backdrop. Think Kira or Naw at the Pels, Simons at the Blazers or Maxey for us.

Total - 4. Could be 3, what matters is the roleplayers are as what the team actually needs.

For Embiid it’s this:

Offball great shooting, on ball playmaking, low usage guard that can defend.

Think Lowry as high end, Brunson as the low end of the spectrum and FVV as middle upper.

Pair would be a SG like Hunter for example. Then the starter switch spot would be Pritchard

Then finally Maxey.

Nets

Harden, Irving
Mills
Thomas

See?

The 3x young guards with potential threw me off. I think your example demonstrates that's not what you really meant.

I'll spare any more back and forth and just agree (as I'm sure pretty much most do) with that they need a strong/star playmaking guard and I think the Simmons trade is critical to obtain that.

3 guards would be Hali, Maxey, Pritchard .

[FlyingArrow]

Mulligan does not mean discard

Yes discard then rebuy back different in laments terms.

Semantics

We mulliganed except no rebuy for us lol

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

Technically it is still semantics. Semantics is "the study of meanings." Usually, people say 'semantics' to indicate that it the other person is just splitting hairs over minor differences in meaning. But major differences in meaning also fall under the category of semantics.

[sixers hoops]

Yes discard then rebuy back different in laments terms.

Semantics

We mulliganed except no rebuy for us lol

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

Okay grammar police thanks for letting me know.

It’s not grammar lol. It’s understanding what words mean.

[sixers hoops]

Yes discard then rebuy back different in laments terms.

Semantics

We mulliganed except no rebuy for us lol

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

Technically it is still semantics. Semantics is "the study of meanings." Usually, people say 'semantics' to indicate that it the other person is just splitting hairs over minor differences in meaning. But major differences in meaning also fall under the category of semantics.

If you want to include one definition that is completely wrong as part of a qualification to say it is semantics, then fine. However, we weren’t discussing differences in meaning. I was explaining that he incorrectly defined a word. It’s not arguing semantics when one person has an incorrect understanding of the meaning of a word and another person is letting them know they are wrong. It’s just one person correcting another. Not much discussion. This is more of an argument about semantics.

[TheBallsDeeper]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot of Kyrie/Simmons trade talk (or maybe I've missed it?). With Kyrie not able to play home games I can't see how he can stay in New York.

Salaries match pretty well so can do a straight swap.

Simmons in Brooklyn with some of the best shooters in history would fit well. He would be able to cover the perimeter on defense to cover for Harden or PF/Small ball center like Blake has done.

Kyrie to Sixers gives the Scoring Gaurd they need and would be a great fit next to Embiid.

Both are causing their teams massive issues, but are also genuine stars and it's probably a fair trade. I suspect both teams don't want to ship out one cancer for another, but it would realistically be the best player either team could get due to their issues.

Obviously both teams would be looking for an assurance that the player would turn up, and I can't see Kyrie agreeing, but surprised it's not being discussed.

[Skates]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot of Kyrie/Simmons trade talk (or maybe I've missed it?). With Kyrie not able to play home games I can't see how he can stay in New York.

Salaries match pretty well so can do a straight swap.

Simmons in Brooklyn with some of the best shooters in history would fit well. He would be able to cover the perimeter on defense to cover for Harden or PF/Small ball center like Blake has done.

Kyrie to Sixers gives the Scoring Gaurd they need and would be a great fit next to Embiid.

Both are causing their teams massive issues, but are also genuine stars and it's probably a fair trade. I suspect both teams don't want to ship out one cancer for another, but it would realistically be the best player either team could get due to their issues.

Obviously both teams would be looking for an assurance that the player would turn up, and I can't see Kyrie agreeing, but surprised it's not being discussed.

No, no and oh hell no. That is all.

[sixers4real]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot of Kyrie/Simmons trade talk (or maybe I've missed it?). With Kyrie not able to play home games I can't see how he can stay in New York.

Salaries match pretty well so can do a straight swap.

Simmons in Brooklyn with some of the best shooters in history would fit well. He would be able to cover the perimeter on defense to cover for Harden or PF/Small ball center like Blake has done.

Kyrie to Sixers gives the Scoring Gaurd they need and would be a great fit next to Embiid.

Both are causing their teams massive issues, but are also genuine stars and it's probably a fair trade. I suspect both teams don't want to ship out one cancer for another, but it would realistically be the best player either team could get due to their issues.

Obviously both teams would be looking for an assurance that the player would turn up, and I can't see Kyrie agreeing, but surprised it's not being discussed.

Kyrie Irving is even more strange person then Ben Simmons. I doubt Morey or Doc want any part of him.

[TheBallsDeeper]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot of Kyrie/Simmons trade talk (or maybe I've missed it?). With Kyrie not able to play home games I can't see how he can stay in New York.

Salaries match pretty well so can do a straight swap.

Simmons in Brooklyn with some of the best shooters in history would fit well. He would be able to cover the perimeter on defense to cover for Harden or PF/Small ball center like Blake has done.

Kyrie to Sixers gives the Scoring Gaurd they need and would be a great fit next to Embiid.

Both are causing their teams massive issues, but are also genuine stars and it's probably a fair trade. I suspect both teams don't want to ship out one cancer for another, but it would realistically be the best player either team could get due to their issues.

Obviously both teams would be looking for an assurance that the player would turn up, and I can't see Kyrie agreeing, but surprised it's not being discussed.

No, no and oh hell no. That is all.

To clarify - I didn't say I want it to happen, Kyrie is clearly nuts, but I'm surprised it's not being talked about in the media and around here.

[Tomjas]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot of Kyrie/Simmons trade talk (or maybe I've missed it?). With Kyrie not able to play home games I can't see how he can stay in New York.

Salaries match pretty well so can do a straight swap.

Simmons in Brooklyn with some of the best shooters in history would fit well. He would be able to cover the perimeter on defense to cover for Harden or PF/Small ball center like Blake has done.

Kyrie to Sixers gives the Scoring Gaurd they need and would be a great fit next to Embiid.

Both are causing their teams massive issues, but are also genuine stars and it's probably a fair trade. I suspect both teams don't want to ship out one cancer for another, but it would realistically be the best player either team could get due to their issues.

Obviously both teams would be looking for an assurance that the player would turn up, and I can't see Kyrie agreeing, but surprised it's not being discussed.

No, no and oh hell no. That is all.

To clarify - I didn't say I want it to happen, Kyrie is clearly nuts, but I'm surprised it's not being talked about in the media and around here.

Bit of talk in media but Kyrie is out there and has threatened to retire if traded

[sixers hoops]

No, no and oh hell no. That is all.

To clarify - I didn't say I want it to happen, Kyrie is clearly nuts, but I'm surprised it's not being talked about in the media and around here.

Bit of talk in media but Kyrie is out there and has threatened to retire if traded

And Durant reportedly shot down trading Kyrie for Ben, and we know Kyrie doesn’t get moved without Durant’s approval.

[DCasey91]

Hehehehehe

So the Sixers didn’t mulligan

They blundered

‘Tis but a scratch but pick at it more it’ll be more than a scratch.”

[DCasey91]

Mulligan does not mean discard

Yes discard then rebuy back different in laments terms.

Semantics

We mulliganed except no rebuy for us lol

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

It’s a loose connection but as it pertains to the draft you get chances every year.

So a do-over this year, crap the bed, carry on next year.

If you make a mistake and get all tangled up, just tango on.

[DCasey91]

Mulligan does not mean discard

Yes discard then rebuy back different in laments terms.

Semantics

We mulliganed except no rebuy for us lol

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

See above ^.

[DCasey91]

Yes discard then rebuy back different in laments terms.

Semantics

We mulliganed except no rebuy for us lol

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

Technically it is still semantics. Semantics is "the study of meanings." Usually, people say 'semantics' to indicate that it the other person is just splitting hairs over minor differences in meaning. But major differences in meaning also fall under the category of semantics.

It is semantics

Also:

Delist player: Discard

Draft: A Chance

- Mulligan, Draft, Rebuy again, every year to infinity. Because draft, and draft picks.

Hmmmm I like the word mulligan I’ll use it.

To the hell with being wrong!

[DCasey91]

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

Okay grammar police thanks for letting me know.

It’s not grammar lol. It’s understanding what words mean.

Grammar meaning:

“The whole system and structure of a language
or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and .... semantics.”

(Also there is a hidden agenda for me to get this to page VII ).

[Wilfried]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot of Kyrie/Simmons trade talk (or maybe I've missed it?). With Kyrie not able to play home games I can't see how he can stay in New York.

Salaries match pretty well so can do a straight swap.

Simmons in Brooklyn with some of the best shooters in history would fit well. He would be able to cover the perimeter on defense to cover for Harden or PF/Small ball center like Blake has done.

Kyrie to Sixers gives the Scoring Gaurd they need and would be a great fit next to Embiid.

Both are causing their teams massive issues, but are also genuine stars and it's probably a fair trade. I suspect both teams don't want to ship out one cancer for another, but it would realistically be the best player either team could get due to their issues.

Obviously both teams would be looking for an assurance that the player would turn up, and I can't see Kyrie agreeing, but surprised it's not being discussed.

Why would we give a division rival:
1) a younger and healthier player
2) a player who would arguably make them a better balanced team
3) take back a player who is most of the time not healthy and a complete distraction even when he's heatlhy

The Billy King era is over

[sixers hoops]

It’s not semantics. It’s not a mulligan at all. A mulligan is to cancel your actions and be given a second opportunity. The Sixers never canceled their pick or were given a second opportunity at the pick.

Technically it is still semantics. Semantics is "the study of meanings." Usually, people say 'semantics' to indicate that it the other person is just splitting hairs over minor differences in meaning. But major differences in meaning also fall under the category of semantics.

It is semantics

Also:

Delist player: Discard

Draft: A Chance

- Mulligan, Draft, Rebuy again, every year to infinity. Because draft, and draft picks.

Hmmmm I like the word mulligan I’ll use it.

To the hell with being wrong!

Where does it say they delisted a him? You’re making up stuff in a strange attempt to save face because you didn’t understand the definition of mulligan. Jaden Springer is a sixer and will continue to be a sixer. He will play in the g-league, but that doesn’t mean they got rid of him and are getting a redo.

[Jhawk03]

You mean to say that, as a fan of a team I follow, I can’t say that I’ve read from 6-8 different credible Wolves reporters that Ant is untouchable?

You can say whatever you want.

We're all annoyed by your posts declaring x and y when you don't know anything. We don't care what the Wolves front office has fed to reporters. The Sixers front office insists they want Ben Simmons back.

Likewise then I guess. You don’t know anything either.

Makes sense to me then that Simmons should be shipped for a collection of 2nds and John Wall and you can’t say anything to that because you don’t know that that’s not true, regardless of what you read or believe.

I actually came here in peace. Feel free to look back at my posts here. You guys got all defensive about stuff. If you don’t like my posts then look at your own. I’m just using your own stances against you.

That’s fine though. I’ll leave and just come back to gloat or apologize when the trade is completed and you do/don’t get someone like Beal, Lillard, SGA, or even Edwards.

Enjoy the circus.

I'm doing my best to catch up with you, but stay for now until I do

[Samson]

The Kyrie people here surprise me. He is *BATSTUFF* crazy. I mean nuts. I would rather just the 76ers as is and have Simmons not get paid than trade for him. He is *nuts*.

I think Simmons is getting desperate by putting out the "No problems with Sacramento" bs.

[the_process]

Just in case BKN wants something for their nutjob PG:

Tobias and a 1st for Kyrie.

Don't care if Kyrie retires or never shows up. In fact, using a 1st to clear Tobias' salary = win.