Pre-Season Games

zuju · Post #41 » by **zuju** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:39 am

Westbrook had too many turnovers. He passed the ball too casually, recklessly and carelessly. Take care of the damn ball even in the preseason !!!

DJ was literally a liability on both ends of the floor. Just don't know why we sign him from the very beginning. What is the use of the center if he cannot rebound, protect the paint and score, inside and outside the paint.

Other than Bazemore, our guards are all liabilities on defense. Blown by the opposing guards every game. IF their 3s do not fall, they are worse than KCP and Kuz who you all think useless on offense. At least give me something, some points or some defense !!

Some problems can be solved with more playing time together.

Hans1984 · Post #42 » by **Hans1984** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:37 am

Hans1984 wrote:Westbrook is turning the ball over every time he's trying to make a pass.

Hans1984 · Post #43 » by **Hans1984** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:40 am

TylersLakers wrote:2 pre-season games in and Westbrook annoys me already.

Westbrook is washed. His numbers from last season were completely overrated. He put up big numbers on a bad Wizards team.
What a terrible preseason overall. Everything looks off.

stan francisco · Post #44 » by **stan francisco** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:02 pm

It’s a brand new team. In Vogel’s defense I trust.

Freighttrain · Post #45 » by **Freighttrain** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:26 pm

stan francisco wrote:It’s a brand new team. In Vogel’s defense I trust.

I mean you do need the players in order to have the number one defense. We traded defensive players for offensive ones. This team isn't going to be a top 10 defense but if we can tread around 10-15 I'd take that with the personnel we have.

stan francisco · Post #46 » by **stan francisco** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:56 pm

Freighttrain wrote:
stan francisco wrote:It’s a brand new team. In Vogel’s defense I trust.

I mean you do need the players in order to have the number one defense. We traded defensive players for offensive ones. This team isn't going to be a top 10 defense but if we can tread around 10-15 I'd take that with the personnel we have.

Yeah, we’ll have to wait and see. Last season we were the best defensive team in the league. I think we can be a top 3-5 defensive team even without Caruso and Kuzma.

euphorbus · Post #47 » by **euphorbus** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:31 pm

stan francisco wrote:It’s a brand new team. In Vogel’s defense I trust.

Offense usually takes longer to mesh than defense, but that may not be the case here. The way things look, it will take two months, to late December, before this team learns how to play together efficiently, smoothly at both ends. Before then, it will come in fits and starts.

tamaraw08 · Post #48 » by **tamaraw08** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:04 pm

stan francisco wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:
stan francisco wrote:It’s a brand new team. In Vogel’s defense I trust.

I mean you do need the players in order to have the number one defense. We traded defensive players for offensive ones. This team isn't going to be a top 10 defense but if we can tread around 10-15 I'd take that with the personnel we have.

Yeah, we’ll have to wait and see. Last season we were the best defensive team in the league. I think we can be a top 3-5 defensive team even without Caruso and Kuzma.

I pray to God that you are right. A couple of years ago, Rob hired shooters like Cook and Daniels, Vogel didn't play them bec they were bad defenders.
*Pelinka also brought in Waiters and Smith, both barely played.
*They also picked up Ben Mcclemore after getting bought out, also barely played.
*(Rob also acquired Harrell, he played like 20+ mins in spite of having very good offensive numbers.
* Marc Gasol also got benched bec he gets exposed when he had to switch in the perimeter. Vogel is locked in defensively and hate players who are not good defenders but offense suffers too.
Pelinka now is challenging Frank to REALLY COACH defense by trading KCP, KUZ, and not retaining Caruso and letting go of Matthews.
Vogel is down to ONE defensive minded player in Bazemore and after 4 games, they have allowed at least 117 pts/game, 3 games more than 121 points.

Post #49 » by **Kilroy** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:24 pm

I didn't expect us to win all our preseason games... In fact that would have concerned me more than where we are now...
But I expected at least one game where we looked really good... And not against the damned GSW... A team we have been beating in our sleep for the last few years...
With the injuries and our overall performance, especially on the Defensive end... And based on how I went through the first 3 months of the season last year not worried... I'm already losing interest. Call me when they put together an 8 of 10 run.

stan francisco · Post #50 » by **stan francisco** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:32 am

tamaraw08 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
Freighttrain wrote:
I mean you do need the players in order to have the number one defense. We traded defensive players for offensive ones. This team isn't going to be a top 10 defense but if we can tread around 10-15 I'd take that with the personnel we have.

Yeah, we’ll have to wait and see. Last season we were the best defensive team in the league. I think we can be a top 3-5 defensive team even without Caruso and Kuzma.

I pray to God that you are right. A couple of years ago, Rob hired shooters like Cook and Daniels, Vogel didn't play them bec they were bad defenders.
*Pelinka also brought in Waiters and Smith, both barely played.
*They also picked up Ben Mcclemore after getting bought out, also barely played.
*(Rob also acquired Harrell, he played like 20+ mins in spite of having very good offensive numbers.
* Marc Gasol also got benched bec he gets exposed when he had to switch in the perimeter. Vogel is locked in defensively and hate players who are not good defenders but offense suffers too.
Pelinka now is challenging Frank to REALLY COACH defense by trading KCP, KUZ, and not retaining Caruso and letting go of Matthews.
Vogel is down to ONE defensive minded player in Bazemore and after 4 games, they have allowed at least 117 pts/game, 3 games more than 121 points.

I hope you’re wrong, lol.

Moving AD to the five must in part be to cover for Westbrook’s lack of team defense, and due to the lack of Caruso and Kuzma.

harlem_ball · Post #51 » by **harlem_ball** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:50 am

Rondo and Westbrook in the lineup together? Hmm...

BEazy · Post #52 » by **BEazy** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:05 am

I knew getting Rondo back will speed up AD.

BEazy · Post #53 » by **BEazy** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:20 am

Reaves is such a steal.

RamonSessions7 · Post #54 » by **RamonSessions7** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:22 am

Westbrook looks smart

harlem_ball · Post #55 » by **harlem_ball** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:56 am

LeBron looks about the same as last year. A bit stiff but can pull off a decent move all of a sudden. He should be fine.

stan francisco · Post #56 » by **stan francisco** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:46 am

I like the defensive focus of Reaves and Queen. Both are playing with poise on both ends.

Hans1984 · Post #57 » by **Hans1984** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:57 am

If you can't even beat this version of the warriors things are not looking good.

Ball so hard · Post #58 » by **Ball so hard** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:08 pm

harlem_ball wrote:Rondo and Westbrook in the lineup together? Hmm...

Actually thought they looked good together.

stan francisco · Post #59 » by **stan francisco** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:56 pm

Ball so hard wrote:
harlem_ball wrote:Rondo and Westbrook in the lineup together? Hmm...

Actually thought they looked good together.

I’ve always thought of Westbrook as a SG who covers up for his poor shooting by pretending he’s a PG…

It’s a good regular season plan, let Rajon set it up, spread the floor with AD and LBJ, let RW and Bazemore cut. Send AD the lob pass every third possession.

Tracymcgoaty · Post #60 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:46 am

I like this Reeves guy. You can see he has confidence in his abilities on offense. Something Caruso sorely lacked. Will enjoy watching his progress this season. Will Miss AC like hell though and Hope Austin can somewhat make up most of it.