Tobias Harris Trade Thread

[DCasey91]

If he does perform near an All Star level this season then I would trade him quick smart. Gets a lot of cheap points (transition, seagull) and is still very particular about his scoring always has been always will be.

I don't think he'll have the trade value you think he'll gain. Last year he had that and if you looked at the trade boards, there weren't many proposals/agreements from other teams' fans that would help the Sixers.

I would guess other GMs will see the same thing you (and the Sixers/other fanbases) do.

Well it’s a year less so that’s something, I think he’s more moveable next off-season. Don’t care for the return just we shouldn’t spend 1/3 of a total cap on him.

[Foshan]

So Tobias for Kyrie... who says no?

[sixers4real]

So Tobias for Kyrie... who says no?

KD

[LeonJordanJr24]

Tobias for any scoring guard at this point. Open up the lane for Ben and Embiid and rock out .

Maxey should start . His scoring and breakdown ability makes him a nice fit.


I'd do Tobias for cap space.

[Negrodamus]

If you keep Ben and trade Tobias, this team will implode within 3 months.

[Arsenal]

Unless he starts spamming 3's ala Robert Covington, Tobias STILL gotta go. Ben or no Ben.

[Philly's Best]

If you keep Ben and trade Tobias, this team will implode within 3 months.

Agreed considering Tobias is the clear team leader, great in the community, etc. That's a terrible idea. I know many discount his value but just giving him away is insane. He may be overpaid but that's water under the bridge.

[Negrodamus]

If you keep Ben and trade Tobias, this team will implode within 3 months.

Agreed considering Tobias is the clear team leader, great in the community, etc. That's a terrible idea. I know many discount his value but just giving him away is insane. He may be overpaid but that's water under the bridge.

Add to that he's friends with Embiid, has helped build the culture here, and had his best season last year. Probably the most consistent player in the playoffs for us. Ripping on Tobias after last year is based on antiquated information.

[stormi]

Unless he starts spamming 3's ala Robert Covington, Tobias STILL gotta go. Ben or no Ben.

If he isn't shooting over 5 three's per game (bare minimum) this year he needs to be gone. Realistically for him to be a positive influence considering his unimpressive defense and playmaking, he needs to be shooting 6-7 per game at a solid clip.

The 3.4 attempts per game he gave us this year and 3.6 attempts in the playoffs was the antithesis of Morey-ball and winning in general.

[Tomjas]

If you keep Ben and trade Tobias, this team will implode within 3 months.

Weird take

Embiid and Simmons are infinitely more important than Tobias

You could replace him with any number of players & it wouldn’t change our prospects

In any event, it’s not Ben or Tobias

[Negrodamus]

If you keep Ben and trade Tobias, this team will implode within 3 months.

Weird take

Embiid and Simmons are infinitely more important than Tobias

You could replace him with any number of players & it wouldn’t change our prospects

In any event, it’s not Ben or Tobias

I didn't say it's Ben or Tobias. There's obviously a riff between Ben and Joel. If you trade yet another one of Joel's friends and keep a guy who dislikes playing with Embiid, to the point where he'd rather forego millions of dollars, then you're asking for a fallout in the locker room.

If you look at it from purely a basketball standpoint, I can see how you came to the conclusion you did though.

[the_process]

You all overestimate Tobias' "importance". This team would be better off with Niang firing up 9 threes a game. And that's with or without Ben.

Jo might like Tobias personally, but he has to notice that Tobias constantly dribbles into his spots. Jo will be fine with a stretch 4. He loved playing with Ilyasova, for example.

Ben is only here until someone offers the right package, and I think everyone knows that, so he can't truly be factored into the equation. But while he is here, which could possibly be all year, getting real spacing from the 4 would help Ben and Jo co-exist as well.

[Negrodamus]

I love how the personal side of the game isn't even being considered here as if that hasn't been one of the main factors that has led us to our demise over the past 5 years.

Our plight has definitely been Tobias not shooting enough threes.

[Sportfan73]

I love how the personal side of the game isn't even being considered here as if that hasn't been one of the main factors that has led us to our demise over the past 5 years.

Our plight has definitely been Tobias not shooting enough threes.

Far far far to much 2k mentality on here lately

[Tomjas]

Doesn’t take a basketball genius to recognise that Tobi has never been a good fit with Joel or Ben

[stormi]

Team was a 50 win 2nd round exit team without Tobias Harris, team is a 50 win 2nd round exit team with him.

The Clippers were a 7-9 seed with him as the 'best player' on that roster, traded him for picks and Landry Shamet and felt zero drop off.

Ben and Joel lineups have no net rating movement with Tobias on the court. And Tobias-led lineups without Ben & Joel get pummeled.

He's the definition of a passenger. Defending mediocrity with so much conviction is a little odd tbh.

[Negrodamus]

I love how the personal side of the game isn't even being considered here as if that hasn't been one of the main factors that has led us to our demise over the past 5 years.

Our plight has definitely been Tobias not shooting enough threes.

Far far far to much 2k mentality on here lately

Correct.

And apparently I'm the weird one for not trying to come up with salary dumping trade ideas for Tobias Harris. I have no emotional attachment to the guy. Trade him, keep him, I'm fine with either.

But if we're being realistic for one minute, which is clearly an issue for this board, we're not going to get anyone adjacent to his talent because he is being overpaid (something I've recognized over and over again) and we're not going to make a winning move by doing a salary dump trade for him.

So my weird, delusional ass is putting into consideration important things like chemistry, continuity, and leadership into the equation, but that is something so farfetched and silly that it should immediately be dismissed. I mean, have you SEEN that contract?!?

Now back to making realistic trades like Buddy Hield for Trashcan Tobias. Maybe we can get 23 year old Collin Sexton for the "worst contract in the league". Perhaps we can discuss some more unattainable players we can trade for Tobias, a player who, according to this board, sucks.

[Sportfan73]

I love how the personal side of the game isn't even being considered here as if that hasn't been one of the main factors that has led us to our demise over the past 5 years.

Our plight has definitely been Tobias not shooting enough threes.

Far far far to much 2k mentality on here lately

Correct.

And apparently I'm the weird one for not trying to come up with salary dumping trade ideas for Tobias Harris. I have no emotional attachment to the guy. Trade him, keep him, I'm fine with either.

But if we're being realistic for one minute, which is clearly an issue for this board, we're not going to get anyone adjacent to his talent because he is being overpaid (something I've recognized over and over again) and we're not going to make a winning move by doing a salary dump trade for him.

So my weird, delusional ass is putting into consideration important things like chemistry, continuity, and leadership into the equation, but that is something so farfetched and silly that it should immediately be dismissed. I mean, have you SEEN that contract?!?

Now back to making realistic trades like Buddy Hield for Trashcan Tobias. Maybe we can get 23 year old Collin Sexton for the "worst contract in the league". Perhaps we can discuss some more unattainable players we can trade for Tobias, a player who, according to this board, sucks.

Yeah it’s not about his impact or whether we could replace him with role players, they simply won’t do that on a team that has had next to no continuity for 5 years and no big time free agents choose to come here. They especially are not trading him mid season. I think the only way morey would deal him is if a max free agent was literally in his office waiting to sign and we needed the space

[Sportfan73]

Team was a 50 win 2nd round exit team without Tobias Harris, team is a 50 win 2nd round exit team with him.

The Clippers were a 7-9 seed with him as the 'best player' on that roster, traded him for picks and Landry Shamet and felt zero drop off.

Ben and Joel lineups have no net rating movement with Tobias on the court. And Tobias-led lineups without Ben & Joel get pummeled.

He's the definition of a passenger. Defending mediocrity with so much conviction is a little odd tbh.

Yeah he is all of those things and everything you said is right BUT they still aren’t moving him.

[DCasey91]

I love how the personal side of the game isn't even being considered here as if that hasn't been one of the main factors that has led us to our demise over the past 5 years.

Our plight has definitely been Tobias not shooting enough threes.

No the main factor was making short sighted moves (Harris was the worst one), asset mismanagement of the highest order, drafting one dimensional players and busts, and not actually getting the players that fit with Embiid (All Star level SG/PG would be required here/ high level backcourt).

It’s the same problems every year because we don’t actually address the problem head on.

If you said to me after 5 years we have Maxey and that’s it I’d say there’s no chance we cant be that bad at this surely, yet here we are and that is the exact position we are in now lol.

In fact there’s clear evidence with personal side of things that has been our downfall. (Ben, front office love fest for far too long, should have been traded years ago).