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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#161 » by Stanford » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:14 pm

mjkvol wrote:Just call the game


Lol, some are complaining that she just narrates what's happening and others want her to just call the game. She cannot win.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#162 » by blargh » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:06 pm

mjkvol wrote:Here's the problem - Kate just got here and wants it to sound like she's always been here, with the "partner" stuff and the "Zu" references. She and Alaa are trying way too hard to inject themselves into the game, when all people want to do is watch the game.

Just call the game, stop with all the forced humor and giggling, stop with the oh-so-hip lingo, and please dear lord tone down the shouting. Let the audience come to you instead of grabbing them by the throat.

Do those things and the complaints will disappear.


I guarantee you 100% the complaints would not have disappeared.

She’s replacing a legend, someone people have gotten used to listening to for more than 20 years, and she has the temerity to try to do that without an adam’s apple. She was going to get hate from the internet, no matter what approach she took. Maybe it wouldn’t come from you, but it was coming. This was always going to take time.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#163 » by Negrodamus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:28 pm

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Lol, some are complaining that she just narrates what's happening and others want her to just call the game. She cannot win.


Can't she just sound like a man, please?
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#164 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:29 pm

blargh wrote:
mjkvol wrote:Here's the problem - Kate just got here and wants it to sound like she's always been here, with the "partner" stuff and the "Zu" references. She and Alaa are trying way too hard to inject themselves into the game, when all people want to do is watch the game.

Just call the game, stop with all the forced humor and giggling, stop with the oh-so-hip lingo, and please dear lord tone down the shouting. Let the audience come to you instead of grabbing them by the throat.

Do those things and the complaints will disappear.


I guarantee you 100% the complaints would not have disappeared.

She’s replacing a legend, someone people have gotten used to listening to for more than 20 years, and she has the temerity to try to do that without an adam’s apple. She was going to get hate from the internet, no matter what approach she took. Maybe it wouldn’t come from you, but it was coming. This was always going to take time.


I was thinking about this. How she’s put into a bad spot by replacing Zumoff.

Like if Zumoff was still here and Kate is replacing Alaa, i dont think it would have been an issue.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#165 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:33 pm

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mjkvol wrote:Just call the game


Lol, some are complaining that she just narrates what's happening and others want her to just call the game. She cannot win.


Personally, I just want her to improve. So im just trying to know where she is going wrong. And from what Ive notice is the pros they just dont narrate that much. And make more commentary than narrating.

Its not the voice. For instance, I love how doris burke covers the game. And Ive longed for wanting to replace Alaa for a long time already. I love Malik Rose.

Malik and Zumoff was the best. Great that we have those two on our rebuilding years
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#166 » by mjkvol » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:48 pm

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mjkvol wrote:Just call the game


Lol, some are complaining that she just narrates what's happening and others want her to just call the game. She cannot win.


I don't want to speak for anyone, but I believe the 'narrate' thing was a reference to calling the game like a radio announce instead of letting the picture fill in some of the words. Sadly, that is more common than not with the new breed, who are clearly taught to
that silence is deadly, and they end up suffocating the game.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#167 » by mjkvol » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:57 pm

blargh wrote:
mjkvol wrote:Here's the problem - Kate just got here and wants it to sound like she's always been here, with the "partner" stuff and the "Zu" references. She and Alaa are trying way too hard to inject themselves into the game, when all people want to do is watch the game.

Just call the game, stop with all the forced humor and giggling, stop with the oh-so-hip lingo, and please dear lord tone down the shouting. Let the audience come to you instead of grabbing them by the throat.

Do those things and the complaints will disappear.


I guarantee you 100% the complaints would not have disappeared.

She’s replacing a legend, someone people have gotten used to listening to for more than 20 years, and she has the temerity to try to do that without an adam’s apple. She was going to get hate from the internet, no matter what approach she took. Maybe it wouldn’t come from you, but it was coming. This was always going to take time.


Very good point.

I'm honestly not a fan of a woman's voice for PBP because the big moments tend to be incredibly shrill (as Kate is), but I think they do a great job in the studio or on the sideline. Just my opinion. I actually think Kate is okay calling the game, but the gabbing and 'humor' really have to be toned down.

I'm a fan of very few announcers any more, so for me if it just isn't a distraction it will be fine. It's just the way games are called now that the announcers are more concerned with being cool and injecting themselves into the broadcast as opposed to it being all about the game.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#168 » by mjkvol » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:58 pm

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blargh wrote:
mjkvol wrote:Here's the problem - Kate just got here and wants it to sound like she's always been here, with the "partner" stuff and the "Zu" references. She and Alaa are trying way too hard to inject themselves into the game, when all people want to do is watch the game.

Just call the game, stop with all the forced humor and giggling, stop with the oh-so-hip lingo, and please dear lord tone down the shouting. Let the audience come to you instead of grabbing them by the throat.

Do those things and the complaints will disappear.


I guarantee you 100% the complaints would not have disappeared.

She’s replacing a legend, someone people have gotten used to listening to for more than 20 years, and she has the temerity to try to do that without an adam’s apple. She was going to get hate from the internet, no matter what approach she took. Maybe it wouldn’t come from you, but it was coming. This was always going to take time.


I was thinking about this. How she’s put into a bad spot by replacing Zumoff.

Like if Zumoff was still here and Kate is replacing Alaa, i dont think it would have been an issue.


She might even be an improvement.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#169 » by Murray_17 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Lol, some are complaining that she just narrates what's happening and others want her to just call the game. She cannot win.


Can't she just sound like a man, please?



Somone literally said that women voices don't fit for commentary but Man yelling are passable.

This thread is hilariously sad.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#170 » by GoSixersBro » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:32 pm

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:
blargh wrote:
I guarantee you 100% the complaints would not have disappeared.

She’s replacing a legend, someone people have gotten used to listening to for more than 20 years, and she has the temerity to try to do that without an adam’s apple. She was going to get hate from the internet, no matter what approach she took. Maybe it wouldn’t come from you, but it was coming. This was always going to take time.


I was thinking about this. How she’s put into a bad spot by replacing Zumoff.

Like if Zumoff was still here and Kate is replacing Alaa, i dont think it would have been an issue.


She might even be an improvement.


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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#171 » by mjkvol » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:39 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Lol, some are complaining that she just narrates what's happening and others want her to just call the game. She cannot win.


Can't she just sound like a man, please?



Somone literally said that women voices don't fit for commentary but Man yelling are passable.

This thread is hilariously sad.


No one said that, and you know it. Anyone 'yelling' sucks, but unfortunately it's how the majority of today's announcers do games.

Is it simply not allowed today to have a preference of what kind of voice is best for calling a game? Is it not okay to criticize an announcer if she's a woman? I'd bet that Kate would be the first to welcome criticism - she's entering what is historically a man's 'domain', and trying to earn her stripes. I hope she succeeds, but I very much hope she can just tone it down and let the game be the thing. Not sure how that is 'hilariously sad' - and if the subject is so offensive, just don't click onto the thread.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#172 » by Negrodamus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:46 pm

mjkvol wrote:I'd bet that Kate would be the first to welcome criticism - she's entering what is historically a man's 'domain', and trying to earn her stripes.


mjkvol wrote:I'm honestly not a fan of a woman's voice for PBP because the big moments tend to be incredibly shrill (as Kate is),


Hey Kate, some honest feedback, can you be less "shrill"? I know that's your voice, can you make it not be your voice? I know you understand. Thanks!
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#173 » by Murray_17 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:52 pm

mjkvol wrote:No one said that, and you know it. Anyone 'yelling' sucks, but unfortunately it's how the majority of today's announcers do games


Really?
gipper08 wrote:Women do not have the right voice to call games. I would rather have that Charlotte guy yelling and hyperventilating. This is ruined for me now.



More sad is that the post i'm quoting has 1 like




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mjkvol wrote:Is it simply not allowed today to have a preference of what kind of voice is best for calling a game? Is it not okay to criticize an announcer if she's a woman? I'd bet that Kate would be the first to welcome criticism - she's entering what is historically a man's 'domain', and trying to earn her stripes. I hope she succeeds , but I very much hope she can just tone it down and let the game be the thing. Not sure how that is 'hilariously sad' - and if the subject is so offensive, just don't click onto the thread.


This you?

mjkvol wrote:I guess this season will be about syncing the radio broadcast with the TV feed.



Look, you can criticize whoever you want but when the criticism is clearly not sincere like some of the BS here, is just sad.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#174 » by mjkvol » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:01 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:No one said that, and you know it. Anyone 'yelling' sucks, but unfortunately it's how the majority of today's announcers do games


Really?
gipper08 wrote:Women do not have the right voice to call games. I would rather have that Charlotte guy yelling and hyperventilating. This is ruined for me now.



More sad is that the post i'm quoting has 1 like




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mjkvol wrote:Is it simply not allowed today to have a preference of what kind of voice is best for calling a game? Is it not okay to criticize an announcer if she's a woman? I'd bet that Kate would be the first to welcome criticism - she's entering what is historically a man's 'domain', and trying to earn her stripes. I hope she succeeds , but I very much hope she can just tone it down and let the game be the thing. Not sure how that is 'hilariously sad' - and if the subject is so offensive, just don't click onto the thread.


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mjkvol wrote:I guess this season will be about syncing the radio broadcast with the TV feed.



Look, you can criticize whoever you want but when the criticism is clearly not sincere like some of the BS here, is just sad.


That last one was unfortunate, my first reaction at hearing the news. I'm honestly trying to be fair - believe it or not, I hope she succeeds here, seems like someone who has worked hard to get to this point.

While ad hominum attacks are wrong, what is also sad is the fact that our society has become such that some feel that fair criticism is off limits at times due to race or gender, even if that person has accepted a position in the public spotlight. That isn't fair to the viewers, and it certainly isn't fair to that person if they have an ounce of integrity. I'd be willing to bet that Kate wouldn't wilt at hearing some criticism, as she has stepped into huge shoes.

I'll tell you this - she would be far better off knocking off the clowning with Alaa and the 'Zu-isms' and just carve her own path, for better or worse. Replacing Alaa and starting fresh with a brand new team would have been a much smarter move.

I don't believe a woman's voice is suitable to do PBP, and my wife said the same thing. At the same time, I hope she settles in and becomes a 'voice of the Sixers' that lasts as long as she wants it to. I fail to see how that is so 'sad'.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#175 » by mjkvol » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:02 pm

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mjkvol wrote:I'd bet that Kate would be the first to welcome criticism - she's entering what is historically a man's 'domain', and trying to earn her stripes.


mjkvol wrote:I'm honestly not a fan of a woman's voice for PBP because the big moments tend to be incredibly shrill (as Kate is),


Hey Kate, some honest feedback, can you be less "shrill"? I know that's your voice, can you make it not be your voice? I know you understand. Thanks!


I suppose it's a shame we can't all be as 'enlightened' as some of you are.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#176 » by Negrodamus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:47 pm

mjkvol wrote:
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mjkvol wrote:I'd bet that Kate would be the first to welcome criticism - she's entering what is historically a man's 'domain', and trying to earn her stripes.


mjkvol wrote:I'm honestly not a fan of a woman's voice for PBP because the big moments tend to be incredibly shrill (as Kate is),


Hey Kate, some honest feedback, can you be less "shrill"? I know that's your voice, can you make it not be your voice? I know you understand. Thanks!


I suppose it's a shame we can't all be as 'enlightened' as some of you are.


Hey mjkvol, some honest feedback, can you sound less "Tennessee country"? I know that's your voice, can you make it not be your voice? I know you understand. Thanks!
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#177 » by Sixersftw » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:57 pm

I will Say Mjkvol seems like he is trying to give her somewhat of a chance given that he came out super hot when she was announced. That's all, I'm going to slowly back out of this car crash of a thread. Some extra despicable takes are sprinkled in this thread.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#178 » by Negrodamus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:21 pm

I love it: you perform well enough to go to UC-Berkeley; go on to work for local television, rise through the ranks in various sports media outlets (AOL FanHouse, SF Giants, FC Gold Pride, Cal Sports Report), become a reporter in the Bay Area and CBS News, eventually co-host SF Giants Live, become a PBP announcer for NBC Sports Bay Area & California, Twitter, The Athletic, Stadium, NBC Sports Group, Fox Sports; a career that spans nearly 20 years and touching every reach of the sports world....

... and she'll welcome the criticism of having a shrill voice.

Yes, I'm perhaps too "enlightened" for this conversation
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#179 » by mjkvol » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:44 am

Sixersftw wrote:I will Say Mjkvol seems like he is trying to give her somewhat of a chance given that he came out super hot when she was announced.


Thank you, but I'm not giving her 'somewhat' of a chance, I hope she succeeds. I guarantee I'm not the only person with the same viewpoint, but it's a shame that people are afraid to express an opinion for fear of being called and -ist or -phobe of some kind by super woke creeps like this Negrodamus.
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Post#180 » by Negrodamus » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:02 am

Woof, total snowflake moment.

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