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The coaching staff needs to follow the same script that worked with Pascal, FVV, Powell and Boucher. With the exception of Scottie, Dalano, Champagnie and Johnson should all get extensive time in 905 playing against pros.
Dalano needs to gain strength and work on his shot. I feel Champagnie can play now with the Raptors but with Yuta and pascal returning soon he would be better served with court experience.
Dalano needs to gain strength and work on his shot. I feel Champagnie can play now with the Raptors but with Yuta and pascal returning soon he would be better served with court experience.
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He has access to an nba training facility and coaching. You guys really fell for that g league propaganda where he’d be around older guys taking shots away from him.
You can develop off the court by getting reps in practise and being ready when called.
You can develop off the court by getting reps in practise and being ready when called.
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alpha wrote:Just like most on this board, claiming he's going to be a star. Look up Dusty Springfield's greatest hit. Why... because he's a Canuck...
Just accept that he may eventually be a good role player. There's a reason he didn't go in the first round.
Don't know how good of a player he'll be, but he has tools and a motor.
Was there a reason that Jokic, Draymond, Manu Ginobli, Paul Milsap didn't go in the first round? If you're a baller, you're a baller, no matter where you were drafted.
Everybody is losing their freaking minds. Nutbars and wingnuts have infested this forum. We've become a public lavatory without cleaning staff.
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This guy has some reallY good tools but it’d be great if he could at least develop a set outside shot. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem that close. Also, i still think he can be an nba player without it because he does everything else so well… just unfortunate that it doesn’t help considering we don’t have a whole ton of shooting presence. Will be interesting to see how he develops.
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I feel that with his build and shiftiness he kind of reminds me of Tayshaun Prince who had an ugly shot that he developed to be effective. Banton has more PG skills whereas Prince was a advanced defender.
Banton seems much quicker than Livingston and Kyle Anderson.
Banton seems much quicker than Livingston and Kyle Anderson.
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johanliebert wrote:He has access to an nba training facility and coaching. You guys really fell for that g league propaganda where he’d be around older guys taking shots away from him.
You can develop off the court by getting reps in practise and being ready when called.
the raptors have mastered using the 905, they were the first (or one of the first) teams to have minor league right near by, the raptors assign a player for practice with 905 in morning and evening call him up for raptors game or vice versa, practice with raptors in morning play with 905 in evening.. there have been occasions where a player has played 2 games in one day, 905 in afternoon raptors in evening.
the nbapa has restriction on how much a player be coached etc, raptors are sending pascal and yuta to 905 for their training camp.
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There shouldn't be any worry from fans regarding Banton's development. The Raps' track record speaks for itself at this point. Whether it's with the 905 or the big club, Dalano'll get what he needs to become a better player.
Just in terms of his impact on the big club, every time he comes into the game, there is a noticeable shift in energy. He's really a sparkplug type of guy and I think that's invaluable right now.
With Siakam coming back, I'd like to see a 4B+D lineup to see how it works: Banton, Dragic, Barnes, Boucher and Birch. This is the type of lineup that can turn games around with its energy when the starters aren't bringing it.
Looking at the team overall, it's actually pretty amazing how deep this team is. The top end talent isn't quite there to compete but because of that, Nurse should really be making full use of his bench to keep the opposition scrambling. Fully healthy, the team is 11 deep and if there's any team that should be experimenting with an "attacking in waves" approach, it's the Raps.
Just in terms of his impact on the big club, every time he comes into the game, there is a noticeable shift in energy. He's really a sparkplug type of guy and I think that's invaluable right now.
With Siakam coming back, I'd like to see a 4B+D lineup to see how it works: Banton, Dragic, Barnes, Boucher and Birch. This is the type of lineup that can turn games around with its energy when the starters aren't bringing it.
Looking at the team overall, it's actually pretty amazing how deep this team is. The top end talent isn't quite there to compete but because of that, Nurse should really be making full use of his bench to keep the opposition scrambling. Fully healthy, the team is 11 deep and if there's any team that should be experimenting with an "attacking in waves" approach, it's the Raps.

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Gold Dragon wrote:It is not either or between 905 and Raptor minutes. Banton can have both if he goes up and down over the season. So he plays 30 min a game in 905 and work on skills, experimentation and 5 min a game with the Raptors to have nba experience.
This. The Raptors led the league in G Leaguers pulling double headers a couple years ago. Banton or Champagnie being on the 905 doesn't in anyway stop them from getting into NBA games or some NBA practices.
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Flynn is a better player right now. He's a better shooter, run the PnR better, still a good defender and can be an explosive scorer. We have 4 point guards and they all deserve minutes but eventually Goran will go and Banton will go to the 905 giving Flynn a chance to play well.
Banton should be in the discussion next season. Nurse might say whatever but he knows it's too soon.
Banton should be in the discussion next season. Nurse might say whatever but he knows it's too soon.
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johanliebert wrote:He has access to an nba training facility and coaching. You guys really fell for that g league propaganda where he’d be around older guys taking shots away from him.
You can develop off the court by getting reps in practise and being ready when called.
Possible but nothing replaces real time game reps. Happens in NFL though.
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YelloC wrote:I feel that with his build and shiftiness he kind of reminds me of Tayshaun Prince who had an ugly shot that he developed to be effective. Banton has more PG skills whereas Prince was a advanced defender.
Banton seems much quicker than Livingston and Kyle Anderson.
he definitely has those lanky and shifty Tayshaun Prince vibes. long, lean, smart and dangerous 2-way player who didn't excel at any one thing but just seemed to be generally good at everything. would be very happy if Dalano reached that level in a few years.

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ruckus wrote:There shouldn't be any worry from fans regarding Banton's development. The Raps' track record speaks for itself at this point. Whether it's with the 905 or the big club, Dalano'll get what he needs to become a better player.
exactly. pretty sure Nurse and his coaches spend a lot of time discussing these questions too. the difference is they have about a thousand times more knowledge about the situation and how to handle it than we do, as well as a long track record of success. I'm not about to doubt their player development choices. i have every confidence we will help him be as good as he can be. same with our other guys.

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ItsDanger wrote:johanliebert wrote:He has access to an nba training facility and coaching. You guys really fell for that g league propaganda where he’d be around older guys taking shots away from him.
You can develop off the court by getting reps in practise and being ready when called.
Possible but nothing replaces real time game reps. Happens in NFL though.
I agree. It is hard to replicate the nuances of real game scenarios and how they play out in practice alone. Even learning to play heavier minutes and with fatigue against "men" is important. Banton needs his G-League time.
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lobosloboslobos wrote:YelloC wrote:I feel that with his build and shiftiness he kind of reminds me of Tayshaun Prince who had an ugly shot that he developed to be effective. Banton has more PG skills whereas Prince was a advanced defender.
Banton seems much quicker than Livingston and Kyle Anderson.
he definitely has those lanky and shifty Tayshaun Prince vibes. long, lean, smart and dangerous 2-way player who didn't excel at any one thing but just seemed to be generally good at everything. would be very happy if Dalano reached that level in a few years.
I think calling him shifty understates just how damn fast Dalano is.
It's not just hustle that makes him an instant energy boost to the team - it's his fantastic speed+stride combo that lets him cover so much ground so quickly.
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ash_k wrote:Indeed wrote:Outside of his lack of shooting, I think he is better than Dragic, which is why I think he should stay with the main team instead of 905.
It is just Dragic needs to gain his value, otherwise, I would have Banton as the backup PG for 10mins a game.
Banton better that the player that leading the Miami Heat in scoring going into the NBA Finals in 2020? That player?
Relax a bit, Banton has played in total 29 minutes in 4 games! 29 minutes! Precious played 29 minutes last night
Dragic is no longer that player. He has just been plain bad this season.
The older you get, the higher the probability that your production will fall off a cliff.
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This guy has the potential to being the steal of the draft. Moreso then Barnes in terms of impact to draft ranking & Barnes has shocked many already. It's better they play together as much as possible to grow some chemistry & see if they can become something special.
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refshateRaps wrote:This guy has the potential to being the steal of the draft. Moreso then Barnes in terms of impact to draft ranking & Barnes has shocked many already. It's better they play together as much as possible to grow some chemistry & see if they can become something special.
He also needs to develop his shot though and he's not going to get enough minutes to do that as long as Dragic is still here.
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Our staff had developed Delon Wright; also had McCaw and Bembry experiments. I believe our staff will handle Banton just fine given the history.
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gp2015 wrote:ash_k wrote:Indeed wrote:Outside of his lack of shooting, I think he is better than Dragic, which is why I think he should stay with the main team instead of 905.
It is just Dragic needs to gain his value, otherwise, I would have Banton as the backup PG for 10mins a game.
Banton better that the player that leading the Miami Heat in scoring going into the NBA Finals in 2020? That player?
Relax a bit, Banton has played in total 29 minutes in 4 games! 29 minutes! Precious played 29 minutes last night
Dragic is no longer that player. He has just been plain bad this season.
The older you get, the higher the probability that your production will fall off a cliff.
it seems that people think Dragic because his name is Dragic is at least a solid role player still. But he isn't. He is a liability on offense and defense and is arguably the worst Raps rotational player.
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Gold Dragon wrote:It is not either or between 905 and Raptor minutes. Banton can have both if he goes up and down over the season. So he plays 30 min a game in 905 and work on skills, experimentation and 5 min a game with the Raptors to have nba experience.
I agree with this. We can also do the same thing with Flynn since he needs to play.