PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff

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[mjkvol]

Hey mjkvol, some honest feedback, can you sound less "Tennessee country"? I know that's your voice, can you make it not be your voice? I know you understand. Thanks!

And that's the whole point, genius. If I did sound 'Tennessee country', my voice wouldn't be suited to being a PBP announcer. That job requires the right kind of delivery and timber to be done well, which is why everyone isn't suited for it - even, shockingly enough, most men. I'm also not 6'8" and can't jump out of the gym or shoot 40% from 3-point range, so being an NBA player is out as well.

So Kate being shrill when she shouts is just fine with you because it happens to be her voice. And because she's a woman who has a voice that is suited for a multitude of broadcasting jobs, but might not be right for PBP announcing at this level, she is beyond criticism because she worked hard at her craft. Got it. Welcome to your woke world.

[Negrodamus]

Hey mjkvol, some honest feedback, can you sound less "Tennessee country"? I know that's your voice, can you make it not be your voice? I know you understand. Thanks!

And that's the whole point, genius. If I did sound 'Tennessee country', my voice wouldn't be suited to being a PBP announcer. That job requires the right kind of delivery and timber to be done well, which is why everyone isn't suited for it - even, shockingly enough, most men. I'm also not 6'8" and can't jump out of the gym or shoot 40% from 3-point range, so being an NBA player is out as well.

So Kate being shrill when she shouts is just fine with you because it happens to be her voice. And because she's a woman who has a voice that is suited for a multitude of broadcasting jobs, but might not be right for PBP announcing at this level, she is beyond criticism because she worked hard at her craft. Got it. Welcome to your woke world.

Well it's a remarkably bad point. And your NBA player point is also not good, but expected.

You don't have to be 6'8 to be in the NBA, it's actually a meritocracy, something your people (judging by your continuous pounding of the table against the "woke" and fearing being called an "-ist or phobe", lol) generally celebrate.

Despite successfully breaking into a male dominated profession and working multiple PBP announcing positions for male professional sports, the line (for you) has finally been drawn at the Sixers local broadcast. Got it. It's clearly bothering you since this thread was 11 days cold and it was very important to bring it back to life.

I, for one, welcome this new "woke" world where people get opportunities by working hard and are not repudiated because their voice is higher than a man's voice. I also welcome, and have welcomed, any type of accented, toned, pitched voice on a PBP call. She's been vetted. You don't just show up to announce a Sixers game.

If your issue with her is that she's joking too much with Alaa, that's fine, fair analysis. When you complain about things outside of her control, like how her shrill voice sounds, I give you my "woke" opinion.

[mjkvol]

Hey mjkvol, some honest feedback, can you sound less "Tennessee country"? I know that's your voice, can you make it not be your voice? I know you understand. Thanks!

And that's the whole point, genius. If I did sound 'Tennessee country', my voice wouldn't be suited to being a PBP announcer. That job requires the right kind of delivery and timber to be done well, which is why everyone isn't suited for it - even, shockingly enough, most men. I'm also not 6'8" and can't jump out of the gym or shoot 40% from 3-point range, so being an NBA player is out as well.

So Kate being shrill when she shouts is just fine with you because it happens to be her voice. And because she's a woman who has a voice that is suited for a multitude of broadcasting jobs, but might not be right for PBP announcing at this level, she is beyond criticism because she worked hard at her craft. Got it. Welcome to your woke world.

Well it's a remarkably bad point. And your NBA player point is also not good, but expected.

You don't have to be 6'8 to be in the NBA, it's actually a meritocracy, something your people (judging by your continuous pounding of the table against the "woke" and fearing being called an "-ist or phobe", lol) generally celebrate.

Despite successfully breaking into a male dominated profession and working multiple PBP announcing positions for male professional sports, the line (for you) has finally been drawn at the Sixers local broadcast. Got it. It's clearly bothering you since this thread was 11 days cold and it was very important to bring it back to life.

I, for one, welcome this new "woke" world where people get opportunities by working hard and are not repudiated because their voice is higher than a man's voice. I also welcome, and have welcomed, any type of accented, toned, pitched voice on a PBP call. She's been vetted. You don't just show up to announce a Sixers game.

If your issue with her is that she's joking too much with Alaa, that's fine, fair analysis. When you complain about things outside of her control, like how her shrill voice sounds, I give you my "woke" opinion.

The thread was 11 days 'cold', therefore it's locked? Listen, you are welcome to your opinion, but just because mine (and others here) doesn't mesh with your sensibilities doesn't mean it's wrong or a bad point, 'remarkably' or otherwise.

You have so mischaracterized my opinion it is ridiculous. The same meritocracy that exists for any highly competitive field should exist in broadcasting, and the same way that different attributes are required to be a professional athlete, those exist as well for a PBP announcer, male or female.

Kate checks the boxes of most of the attributes you would seek in a PBP broadcaster, but in my opinion as a viewer, her voice (just like mine would be with that "Tennessee twang" if I had it, which would be tough as a NJ native) isn't suited for the job. Others have said the same. But because she's a woman, that part of the requirement is now off limits. And perhaps today, it really is, because there are an awful lot of bad men broadcasters who shout too much.

Listen, I had no intention of creating a firestorm with an opinion on a forum that is all about ... our opinions. My views on broadcasting are based on watching the game and following the Sixers religiously in the '70's and '80's, and sports announcing was a whole lot different then, not just gender-wise. I respect the viewpoints of the regulars here, and quite frankly learn a hell of a lot more about how the NBA game is played today and the Sixers than from any of the media hacks. Let's just agree to disagree (to use a hackneyed cliche) and hopefully Kate is a rousing success.

[Stanford]

If I did sound 'Tennessee country', my voice wouldn't be suited to being a PBP announcer.

What about "Oklahoma country?"

[agiaco]

And that's the whole point, genius. If I did sound 'Tennessee country', my voice wouldn't be suited to being a PBP announcer. That job requires the right kind of delivery and timber to be done well, which is why everyone isn't suited for it - even, shockingly enough, most men. I'm also not 6'8" and can't jump out of the gym or shoot 40% from 3-point range, so being an NBA player is out as well.

So Kate being shrill when she shouts is just fine with you because it happens to be her voice. And because she's a woman who has a voice that is suited for a multitude of broadcasting jobs, but might not be right for PBP announcing at this level, she is beyond criticism because she worked hard at her craft. Got it. Welcome to your woke world.

Well it's a remarkably bad point. And your NBA player point is also not good, but expected.

You don't have to be 6'8 to be in the NBA, it's actually a meritocracy, something your people (judging by your continuous pounding of the table against the "woke" and fearing being called an "-ist or phobe", lol) generally celebrate.

Despite successfully breaking into a male dominated profession and working multiple PBP announcing positions for male professional sports, the line (for you) has finally been drawn at the Sixers local broadcast. Got it. It's clearly bothering you since this thread was 11 days cold and it was very important to bring it back to life.

I, for one, welcome this new "woke" world where people get opportunities by working hard and are not repudiated because their voice is higher than a man's voice. I also welcome, and have welcomed, any type of accented, toned, pitched voice on a PBP call. She's been vetted. You don't just show up to announce a Sixers game.

If your issue with her is that she's joking too much with Alaa, that's fine, fair analysis. When you complain about things outside of her control, like how her shrill voice sounds, I give you my "woke" opinion.

The thread was 11 days 'cold', therefore it's locked? Listen, you are welcome to your opinion, but just because mine (and others here) doesn't mesh with your sensibilities doesn't mean it's wrong or a bad point, 'remarkably' or otherwise.

You have so mischaracterized my opinion it is ridiculous. The same meritocracy that exists for any highly competitive field should exist in broadcasting, and the same way that different attributes are required to be a professional athlete, those exist as well for a PBP announcer, male or female.

Kate checks the boxes of most of the attributes you would seek in a PBP broadcaster, but in my opinion as a viewer, her voice (just like mine would be with that "Tennessee twang" if I had it, which would be tough as a NJ native) isn't suited for the job. Others have said the same. But because she's a woman, that part of the requirement is now off limits. And perhaps today, it really is, because there are an awful lot of bad men broadcasters who shout too much.

Listen, I had no intention of creating a firestorm with an opinion on a forum that is all about ... our opinions. My views on broadcasting are based on watching the game and following the Sixers religiously in the '70's and '80's, and sports announcing was a whole lot different then, not just gender-wise. I respect the viewpoints of the regulars here, and quite frankly learn a hell of a lot more about how the NBA game is played today and the Sixers than from any of the media hacks. Let's just agree to disagree (to use a hackneyed cliche) and hopefully Kate is a rousing success.

Agreed. Clearly she has worked hard to earn the job and she is doing well so far, but I don't like listening to her voice. Maybe that will change, but it does not seem promising. Lisa Byington was just hired to replace Jim Paschke with the Bucks, and she does not have an annoying voice.

[Sixerscan]

And that's the whole point, genius. If I did sound 'Tennessee country', my voice wouldn't be suited to being a PBP announcer. That job requires the right kind of delivery and timber to be done well, which is why everyone isn't suited for it - even, shockingly enough, most men. I'm also not 6'8" and can't jump out of the gym or shoot 40% from 3-point range, so being an NBA player is out as well.

So Kate being shrill when she shouts is just fine with you because it happens to be her voice. And because she's a woman who has a voice that is suited for a multitude of broadcasting jobs, but might not be right for PBP announcing at this level, she is beyond criticism because she worked hard at her craft. Got it. Welcome to your woke world.

Well it's a remarkably bad point. And your NBA player point is also not good, but expected.

You don't have to be 6'8 to be in the NBA, it's actually a meritocracy, something your people (judging by your continuous pounding of the table against the "woke" and fearing being called an "-ist or phobe", lol) generally celebrate.

Despite successfully breaking into a male dominated profession and working multiple PBP announcing positions for male professional sports, the line (for you) has finally been drawn at the Sixers local broadcast. Got it. It's clearly bothering you since this thread was 11 days cold and it was very important to bring it back to life.

I, for one, welcome this new "woke" world where people get opportunities by working hard and are not repudiated because their voice is higher than a man's voice. I also welcome, and have welcomed, any type of accented, toned, pitched voice on a PBP call. She's been vetted. You don't just show up to announce a Sixers game.

If your issue with her is that she's joking too much with Alaa, that's fine, fair analysis. When you complain about things outside of her control, like how her shrill voice sounds, I give you my "woke" opinion.

The thread was 11 days 'cold', therefore it's locked? Listen, you are welcome to your opinion, but just because mine (and others here) doesn't mesh with your sensibilities doesn't mean it's wrong or a bad point, 'remarkably' or otherwise.

You have so mischaracterized my opinion it is ridiculous. The same meritocracy that exists for any highly competitive field should exist in broadcasting, and the same way that different attributes are required to be a professional athlete, those exist as well for a PBP announcer, male or female.

Kate checks the boxes of most of the attributes you would seek in a PBP broadcaster, but in my opinion as a viewer, her voice (just like mine would be with that "Tennessee twang" if I had it, which would be tough as a NJ native) isn't suited for the job. Others have said the same. But because she's a woman, that part of the requirement is now off limits. And perhaps today, it really is, because there are an awful lot of bad men broadcasters who shout too much.

Listen, I had no intention of creating a firestorm with an opinion on a forum that is all about ... our opinions. My views on broadcasting are based on watching the game and following the Sixers religiously in the '70's and '80's, and sports announcing was a whole lot different then, not just gender-wise. I respect the viewpoints of the regulars here, and quite frankly learn a hell of a lot more about how the NBA game is played today and the Sixers than from any of the media hacks. Let's just agree to disagree (to use a hackneyed cliche) and hopefully Kate is a rousing success.

And of course, it was different because the far majority of decision-makers that hired people for broadcasts (and trained people and so on) at that time were men and/or implicitly or explicitly subscribed to this idea that men and women should be in certain roles, which I get you are fine with but many of us find off-putting, because the end result for that line of thinking was women trying to get into the industry are at a de facto disadvantage.

I don't really care what you think, you're entitled to your opinion as you said, but I am just gonna point out this is more or less a perfect example of why people celebrate women like Kate getting this kind of job. Hopefully more people over time get used to women filling this role just like they've gotten used to women doctors, lawyers, police officers, newscasters etc. and we stop having silly unnecessary gender specified roles.

It doesn't mean it's not a meritocracy, it means we (and by "we" I mostly mean men) should stop acting like a job that so just happened to be filled league-wide by 100% dudes for like 50 years was a perfect meritocracy in the first place.

[mjkvol]

If I did sound 'Tennessee country', my voice wouldn't be suited to being a PBP announcer.

What about "Oklahoma country?"

Slightly better shot.

[mjkvol]

I am just gonna point out this is more or less a perfect example of why people celebrate women like Kate getting this kind of job. Hopefully more people over time get used to women filling this role just like they've gotten used to women doctors, lawyers, police officers, newscasters etc. and we stop having silly unnecessary gender specified roles.

It doesn't mean it's not a meritocracy, it means we (and by "we" I mostly mean men) should stop acting like a job that so just happened to be filled league-wide by 100% dudes for like 50 years was a perfect meritocracy in the first place.

I'm done with the debate after this, as we've all had our say and can hopefully remain friends on here, as I enjoy the forum greatly.

You basically contradict yourself by saying it's a meritocracy but yet we need to celebrate someone getting 'this kind of job' due to her gender. That's like celebrating affirmative action, essentially tokenism, with which perhaps you have no issue. No one said that this was a 'gender specific' role, but just like it should take a certain type of voice for a man to get the job, the same should apply to women. The poster from Milwaukee pretty much agreed with me but said they hired a woman there he has no problem with.

Again, I'm not saying that Kate didn't earn her position and deserve every chance (which she will certainly get) to succeed here. I'm only saying that she should be open to criticism just as any man who got the job should be, and if her voice is part of that, so be it. I'd be surprised if Kate would feel any different, and probably has a lot thicker skin than many of us.

[Sixerscan]

I am just gonna point out this is more or less a perfect example of why people celebrate women like Kate getting this kind of job. Hopefully more people over time get used to women filling this role just like they've gotten used to women doctors, lawyers, police officers, newscasters etc. and we stop having silly unnecessary gender specified roles.

It doesn't mean it's not a meritocracy, it means we (and by "we" I mostly mean men) should stop acting like a job that so just happened to be filled league-wide by 100% dudes for like 50 years was a perfect meritocracy in the first place.

I'm done with the debate after this, as we've all had our say and can hopefully remain friends on here, as I enjoy the forum greatly.

You basically contradict yourself by saying it's a meritocracy but yet we need to celebrate someone getting 'this kind of job' due to her gender. That's like celebrating affirmative action, essentially tokenism, with which perhaps you have no issue. No one said that this was a 'gender specific' role, but just like it should take a certain type of voice for a man to get the job, the same should apply to women. The poster from Milwaukee pretty much agreed with me but said they hired a woman there he has no problem with.

Again, I'm not saying that Kate didn't earn her position and deserve every chance (which she will certainly get) to succeed here. I'm only saying that she should be open to criticism just as any man who got the job should be, and if her voice is part of that, so be it. I'd be surprised if Kate would feel any different, and probably has a lot thicker skin than many of us.

You don't need to celebrate anything.

I don't want women to get every job, I want them to have just as good of a chance as men. If an industry hires nothing but men for 50 years and the majority of the decision makers over that time are men I think I can be rightly dubious of that happening in the past, and I think it's good that that is changing, and Kate getting hired is real evidence of that changing.

[76ciology]

Do you guys find how the game was covered during the Hawks vs Sixer game better?

Personally, i havent watched the game yet only the tobias harris highlight

[XtremeDunkz]

Do you guys find how the game was covered during the Hawks vs Sixer game better?

Personally, i havent watched the game yet only the tobias harris highlight

Tom was so much better than Kate. I regret saying I didn't want him early in the process.

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[phillynative]

I always enjoyed Tom McGinnis in segments. Not sure if I would want to hear him every game though he runs dry sometimes.

I don't get the "shrill voice" thing concerning Kate. She doesn't have a high pitched voice and the only time she raises it is during a highlight play. Some of these guys come off like a "manly man's "voice is more pleasing to their ears which is odd.

My only knocks so far is her and Alaa can be a bit chatty. Alaa does the corny joke , homerism thing but you don't hear much complaints about him.

[mjkvol]

My only knocks so far is her and Alaa can be a bit chatty. Alaa does the corny joke , homerism thing but you don't hear much complaints about him.

Are you kidding? Put a poll up here and I'd wager there would be few if any who believe that Alaa shouldn't be replaced. The reason that Kate has been the issue is that she's the new kid in town.

[mjkvol]

I don't get the "shrill voice" thing concerning Kate. She doesn't have a high pitched voice and the only time she raises it is during a highlight play. Some of these guys come off like a "manly man's "voice is more pleasing to their ears which is odd.

I regret being among the first here to criticize Kate's voice, automatically making her gender the issue and the primary subject of the thread. I'm not a fan of her voice and never will be, but the main issues with her are things she can control but will probably never change, namely the over talking, shouting at any big moment, and incessant chattiness.

I say that because it is how virtually every younger announcer calls games now, filling every second with talk and chatter and getting over excited over every single big moment. It must be the way they are taught, that any silence will lose viewers and to become part of the broadcast instead of making the game itself the only star.

A huge step in improving the broadcast would be to replace Alaa with a serious, competent analyst who did what analysts should allegedly do, which is to use their experience in playing or coaching to get in depth of why a play happened or a strategy was implemented, and to criticize when appropriate. Alaa is a clown - nice guy, but way out of his depth. Maybe this is just what the network wants - have fun, hype the Sixers and make sure to get all those in-game ads done.

[HotelVitale]

Would love to have JJ on our tv team

Hmm, that's a tough call. I like his podcast because he's thoughtful about getting people to explain how NBA things work and what players and staff are actually thinking about and experiencing--he's a good sort of host or tour guide for that world, making sure people are asking the right questions to get to the interesting parts. And I think he's generally pretty sharp without trying to be, has different interests and understands a lot of different perspectives and is good at being more subtle/nuanced than most bball commentators while still taking stances.

But he's also got this air of being a rich hip entrepreneur, feels a little off for a home-town analyst position. I think if he was really committed to it--had decided, 'yeah being on the Sixers broadcast team for the next decade is exactly what I'm about now'--then he'd be great, but seems like he's more into chasing his interests and developing his brand etc for now.

[mjkvol]

Would love to have JJ on our tv team

Hmm, that's a tough call. I like his podcast because he's thoughtful about getting people to explain how NBA things work and what players and staff are actually thinking about and experiencing--he's a good sort of host or tour guide for that world, making sure people are asking the right questions to get to the interesting parts. And I think he's generally pretty sharp without trying to be, has different interests and understands a lot of different perspectives and is good at being more subtle/nuanced than most bball commentators while still taking stances.

But he's also got this air of being a rich hip entrepreneur, feels a little off for a home-town analyst position. I think if he was really committed to it--had decided, 'yeah being on the Sixers broadcast team for the next decade is exactly what I'm about now'--then he'd be great, but seems like he's more into chasing his interests and developing his brand etc for now.

Totally agree. JJ is about building his brand, and working a local gig anywhere would never get him the exposure that ESPN and possibly a network gig at some point would. I could see him sitting next to Mike Breen at some point.

[76ciology]

I dont know if it’s by design that MAYBE Kate Scott was placed there so it’s easier to replace Zumoff where we have to compare McGinnis with Kate Scott (which is huge upgrade) than compare McGinnis with Zumoff and it will make us miss zumoff.

[mjkvol]

I didn't see last night's game but I have it recorded. Didn't know McGinnis would be doing it, I'll check some of it out.

[mjkvol]

I dont know if it’s by design that MAYBE Kate Scott was placed there so it’s easier to replace Zumoff where we have to compare McGinnis with Kate Scott (which is huge upgrade) than compare McGinnis with Zumoff and it will make us miss zumoff.

Not sure what you mean, could you clarify that? Are you saying that Kate is better than McGinnis?