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Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST

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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#181 » by vege » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:20 am

The team was uninterested in general.

Cade, Bey and F.Jackson shot well.

Cade had some awful TOs but had a big game.

We put 0 effort on defense, which is concerning.

Isaiah stewart was very bad, and Grant didn't want to play at all.

CoJo was a disaster, thank God he only played 6 minutes
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#182 » by Manocad » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:22 am

Cade doesn't control getting calls and getting to the line. He shot 50% meaning he was making his shots. I'll take 25/8/8 and no free throws every game.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#183 » by NYPiston » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:23 am

Cade balled out and Bey rediscovered his shot. I'm content.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#184 » by bstein14 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:24 am

Kings destroyed us inside and lit us up from 3 point land. Great to see both Cade & Bey shoot 50+% from the floor tonight combining for 53 points, but disappointing how the Kings just didn't feel us defensively. Was way too easy for them. They are a good scoring team (5th coming in probably 4th or 3rd after tonight) but we made them look like the 2017 Warriors tonight.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#185 » by bstein14 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:27 am

Bench unit really misses KO as well. KO much better at creating open looks for teammates as well than Lyles is. I think 6 weeks of missing Olynyk means we're loosing a few more games while he is out but on the bright side it hopefully means more minutes and shot attempts for some of the younger guys.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#186 » by MrBigShot » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:27 am

Last 6 games for Cade: 16.5ppg, 6 rebounds, 4 assists on 40 FG% and 37% from deep. He's starting to get comfortable.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#187 » by Mogolo » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:30 am

MrBigShot wrote:Last 6 games for Cade: 16.5ppg, 6 rebounds, 4 assists on 40 FG% and 37% from deep. He's starting to get comfortable.


almost like he is catching up after no training camp or pre season. He'll be alright ^^
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Post#188 » by buzzkilloton » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:32 am

Manocad wrote:Cade doesn't control getting calls and getting to the line. He shot 50% meaning he was making his shots. I'll take 25/8/8 and no free throws every game.


Players control getting to the line by creating contact. Its a skill.
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Post#189 » by Manocad » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:35 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
Manocad wrote:Cade doesn't control getting calls and getting to the line. He shot 50% meaning he was making his shots. I'll take 25/8/8 and no free throws every game.


Players control getting to the line by creating contact. Its a skill.
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Let's try this again. He hit 50% of his shots on the way to scoring 25 points. He didn't need free throws.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#190 » by Tecmo » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:36 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
Manocad wrote:Cade doesn't control getting calls and getting to the line. He shot 50% meaning he was making his shots. I'll take 25/8/8 and no free throws every game.


Players control getting to the line by creating contact. Its a skill.


& refs aren't calling such fouls as much this year.
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Post#191 » by MotownMadness » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:37 am

Its a good night when our two best young guys play like that (Bey and Cade)
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#192 » by Manocad » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:39 am

Titan77 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Manocad wrote:Cade doesn't control getting calls and getting to the line. He shot 50% meaning he was making his shots. I'll take 25/8/8 and no free throws every game.


Players control getting to the line by creating contact. Its a skill.


& refs aren't calling such fouls as much this year.

Yeah, and it's like saying "Well, 25/8/8 is nice but he needs to stop hitting his shots from outside and start driving the lane more, risking injury and getting his points on free throws instead." :lol:
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#193 » by zeebneeb » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:40 am

Okay hold on here. I wonder how much NBA basketball some people are watching this year. To get to the damn line this year, you almost have to have a police report to give to the refs.

Cade not getting to the line(he is a ROOKIE)is him not knowing what triggers the refs, and like the rest if the league, are having a tough time getting a whistle, let alone get to the line.

Last year hes probably getting to the line twice as much.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#194 » by The Moose » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:40 am

Manocad wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Manocad wrote:Cade doesn't control getting calls and getting to the line. He shot 50% meaning he was making his shots. I'll take 25/8/8 and no free throws every game.


Players control getting to the line by creating contact. Its a skill.
:lol:
Let's try this again. He hit 50% of his shots on the way to scoring 25 points. He didn't need free throws.


yes he didn't need free throws to score 25 points tonight, thats a good point. Its not a point anybody was arguing but its a point nonetheless I suppose
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#195 » by MotownMadness » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:41 am

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Post#196 » by Manocad » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:42 am

The Moose wrote:
Manocad wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Players control getting to the line by creating contact. Its a skill.
:lol:
Let's try this again. He hit 50% of his shots on the way to scoring 25 points. He didn't need free throws.


yes he didn't need free throws to score 25 points tonight, thats a good point. Its not a point anybody was arguing but its a point nonetheless I suppose

Yep, it IS a good point. If you can score your points hitting open shots that's better than intentionally trying to draw contact in order to get free throws. You know, that whole "efficiency" thing.
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Post#197 » by FloridaMan78 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:44 am

bjones521 wrote:Man we really need a C, I love Stewart but he is a high energy bench player. And Garza is s l o w

I wasn’t on the Ayton train because I wanted to give Stewart a chance, but I’ve got one foot on now. If we could somehow trade for him using Grant I think that would be ideal. He seemed checked out tonight and I’m a bit worried he might start losing his value. If he’s not happy here we should get value for him now. We could move Bey to PF with a center like Ayton. Some good big wings and power forwards in the draft, not really any Centers.
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Post#198 » by buzzkilloton » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:46 am

Titan77 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
Manocad wrote:Cade doesn't control getting calls and getting to the line. He shot 50% meaning he was making his shots. I'll take 25/8/8 and no free throws every game.


Players control getting to the line by creating contact. Its a skill.


& refs aren't calling such fouls as much this year.


All the leagues great scorers get to the line more then the rate he is this season. His point is relevant he needs to improve on that. Its a lack of craftiness and strength that he will need to work on. Getting to the line is a skill that people underrate in the elite scorers in the league.

Its not taking away anything from a great game. Its actually impressive that he had a great game but you can still see how in the future with improving areas of his game he could be a guy who puts up 30+ on a night like tonight by drawing contact.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#199 » by Rodman » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:47 am

I am beginning to get SVG vibes from Casey.
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Re: Game 13: Kings (5-8) @ Pistons (3-9) - Nov. 15 7:00 PM EST 

Post#200 » by zeebneeb » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:50 am

MotownMadness wrote:
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"Not elite at getting to the line".

The company Cade just joined should have all of us really, REALLY, excited.

How many games has Cade played?




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