Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

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Did Lebron intentionally hit Stewart?

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#221 » by Tustari » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:57 am

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yoyoboy wrote:Wow, people here are ridiculous. This kind of stuff makes certain people come out in droves to create their own narratives in order to further fuel their own hatred. LeBron very clearly was annoyed with being grabbed and tried to hit Stewart's arm off him hard (which he shouldn't have done) but accidentally hit him the face. You actually think he was deliberately trying to punch Stewart in the face? When have you ever seen LeBron legitimately try to get into a fight? Way too image-focused and definitely wouldn't want to piss off someone that big, which something like that would be guaranteed to do.

Even without the intent to hit him in the face, the result happened, and so LeBron should be suspended a game. But what Stewart did is clearly worse. Absolutely unhinged rage that caused him to have to be restrained like 10 different times, and then he ran into the tunnel to try to beat the hell out of LeBron on the other end, all the while putting teammates and staff members at risk in his efforts. That kind of hotheadedness is absolutely insane and makes him a real on-court danger. I haven't seen a dude lose his cool that much since Malice at the Palace. If his teammates (way to go Cade) staff members didn't do the job they did, Stewart legitimately might have done something to cost himself his career.


So I'm guessing you didnt see the top view where Lebron looked over at Stewarts face before he swung while biting down on his lip after.. yea keep up with the narrative that Lebron is a wholesome perfect rolemodle for children and would never do wrong.

God this board is an absolute trainwreck. Thank god for the Player Comparison board. The GB is just a bunch of children who hate everyone and everything but especially certain star players, LeBron being one of them. The video above shows clear as day he's not even looking at Stewart when he throws the fist backwards and is trying to hit the arm away that's pushing him. The absurdity in thinking LeBron was actually trying to start a fight by punching a dude square in the face for pushing him on a rebound is so stupid, especially when throughout a near-20 year career we've never LeBron try to do anything like that before, even after getting hit in the face and taking way worse punishment.

When did I ever say LeBron was a perfect role model for children? I disagree with plenty of things he does, including his silence on China. But in this case, yeah I'm perfectly fine being the reasonable one. You guys are all letting your preconceived hatred for LeBron force you into a really dumb take. Good luck with that.


If this board is a train wreck why are you here? Do you usually like riding on train wreck’s? And I’ve seen an angle where Lebron not only looks at Stewart before throwing but scowls at him as well. And I don’t think the problem is Lebron hate, but an inability of his Stan’s to look at his actions objectively
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#222 » by SoulJah » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:01 am

Lakers fans are so delusional and on their knees for Lebron that if he shoots someone in middle of the arena, they'll still think it was a person fault to be front of his gun and they shouldn't have reacted by dying. Literally pathetic at this point!
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Post#223 » by LAL1947 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:03 am

SoulJah wrote:Lakers fans are so delusional and on their knees for Lebron that if he shoots someone in middle of the arena, they'll still think it was a person fault to be front of his gun and they shouldn't have reacted by dying. Literally pathetic at this point!

Bruv... you're generalizing... and get off my lawn! :P
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#224 » by Boardbreaker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:05 am

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He is looking directly at him as his fist makes contact. It you funny you are insulting others, when the only people that cannot see the truth are Lebron stans like you.


Wow. What a clown take. “LeBron stan” for having a rationale take?


I dont really care about ur internal arguments but just saw this, "The fact that you think that's the more reasonable possibility than trying to hit the hand away that was pushing him is hilarious."

When you want to push some1 away or push an arm away you use an open hand not a closed fist. Its just naturally what we do its whats easier.

His fist was closed. He did wind up. He did look at him. He did hit him in the face. He did draw blood.

You do not push with a closed fist. That is meant to do harm.


Exactly. When do you ever make a closed fist in basketball. Clear cheap shot.
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Post#225 » by HEAT33 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:05 am

Dirty play by LeBron, hope he gets a few game suspension. Totally intensional
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#226 » by Onlytimewilltel » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:05 am

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yoyoboy wrote:Wow, people here are ridiculous. This kind of stuff makes certain people come out in droves to create their own narratives in order to further fuel their own hatred. LeBron very clearly was annoyed with being grabbed and tried to hit Stewart's arm off him hard (which he shouldn't have done) but accidentally hit him the face. You actually think he was deliberately trying to punch Stewart in the face? When have you ever seen LeBron legitimately try to get into a fight? Way too image-focused and definitely wouldn't want to piss off someone that big, which something like that would be guaranteed to do.

Even without the intent to hit him in the face, the result happened, and so LeBron should be suspended a game. But what Stewart did is clearly worse. Absolutely unhinged rage that caused him to have to be restrained like 10 different times, and then he ran into the tunnel to try to beat the hell out of LeBron on the other end, all the while putting teammates and staff members at risk in his efforts. That kind of hotheadedness is absolutely insane and makes him a real on-court danger. I haven't seen a dude lose his cool that much since Malice at the Palace. If his teammates (way to go Cade) staff members didn't do the job they did, Stewart legitimately might have done something to cost himself his career.


I would go a step further and say that he kinda aimlessly swung to get detangled but he wasn't trying to hurt him.

I don't think Stewart was gonna go ham until he realized his face was bloodied. Then he just freaked out. He didn't seem that hurt - got up pretty easy.


Yea no sh*t lol lots of idiots around here talking like lebron sat there coming up with a master plan to punch a big crazy hot heated youngster lol. This happened while being pushed and fouled and swung his hand backwards to get him off him self lol I’d do the same damn thing if someone was pushing me like that on a boxout. Obviously not trying to start nothing serious and hurt him but more like “get off me dude” that ended up going wrong obviously. This thing happened in less than a second in the heat of the moment and these idiots around here are talking about where his eyesight was as he was turning around supposedly “proving” the intention :lol: :lol: clearly none of them have been in a real fight in their lives.

And yea when has lebron ever actually tried to start a fight? Lebron is a little bi*tch and also a businessman covering his clean image, both reasons why he wouldn’t actually purposely punch this lunatic lol. Just idiotic hate. And I think lebron is a clown for some of his off court stuff, China and stupid comments in media and what not.

They should absolutely both be suspended due to the outcome as lebron landed obviously and that other lunatic showed the most rage we’ve seen since the malice at the palace (once again, if someone can find an example of more range since then, please post it).
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#227 » by meekrab » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:06 am

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meekrab wrote:Whether he's suspended or not, I think it's safe to say LeBron isn't suiting up to play the Pistons again this year.


Next week... League might keep them both out.

I doubt they suspend LeBron for 5 games... but he won't play it anyway, too valuable to the Lakers to risk anything.
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Post#228 » by DaddyCool19 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:09 am

Did Stewart talk bad about China and Lebron couldn't let it slide so he punched him?

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#229 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:10 am

I watched it in slow motion from the overhead backboard camera, looking down at the two players.

Lebron did it intentionally, but he actually hit him with a closed fist, and not his elbow.

In the slow motion, you can see Lebron stop trying to play for the ball, and in a split second he turns his FULL attention to Stewart, and then swipes at his face causing the injury.

Slow down the video speed to 0.25 (click on Settings --> Playback speed --> 0.25) and watch the very first few seconds of the video. Lebron hit him intentionally with his fist.


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Post#230 » by DaFan334 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:11 am

meekrab wrote:
DaFan334 wrote:
meekrab wrote:Whether he's suspended or not, I think it's safe to say LeBron isn't suiting up to play the Pistons again this year.


Next week... League might keep them both out.

I doubt they suspend LeBron for 5 games... but he won't play it anyway, too valuable to the Lakers to risk anything.


It'll be interesting to see... They play in 4 games. A 3 game would make sense but his first game back against them would be something the league may want to avoid.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#231 » by wadenation305 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:27 am

Need to circle this next game next to heat vs nuggets. Should be interesting. If I'm Spo if dough boi is playing that next game I'm starting the G leaguer's and taking him through the 5 ring circus.
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Post#232 » by LAL1947 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:28 am

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Post#233 » by Boardbreaker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:29 am

Clearest angle I've seen so far

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#234 » by Capn'O » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:31 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Wow, people here are ridiculous. This kind of stuff makes certain people come out in droves to create their own narratives in order to further fuel their own hatred. LeBron very clearly was annoyed with being grabbed and tried to hit Stewart's arm off him hard (which he shouldn't have done) but accidentally hit him the face. You actually think he was deliberately trying to punch Stewart in the face? When have you ever seen LeBron legitimately try to get into a fight? Way too image-focused and definitely wouldn't want to piss off someone that big, which something like that would be guaranteed to do.

Even without the intent to hit him in the face, the result happened, and so LeBron should be suspended a game. But what Stewart did is clearly worse. Absolutely unhinged rage that caused him to have to be restrained like 10 different times, and then he ran into the tunnel to try to beat the hell out of LeBron on the other end, all the while putting teammates and staff members at risk in his efforts. That kind of hotheadedness is absolutely insane and makes him a real on-court danger. I haven't seen a dude lose his cool that much since Malice at the Palace. If his teammates (way to go Cade) staff members didn't do the job they did, Stewart legitimately might have done something to cost himself his career.


I would go a step further and say that he kinda aimlessly swung to get detangled but he wasn't trying to hurt him.

I don't think Stewart was gonna go ham until he realized his face was bloodied. Then he just freaked out. He didn't seem that hurt - got up pretty easy.


Yea no sh*t lol lots of idiots around here talking like lebron sat there coming up with a master plan to punch a big crazy hot heated youngster lol. This happened while being pushed and fouled and swung his hand backwards to get him off him self lol I’d do the same damn thing if someone was pushing me like that on a boxout. Obviously not trying to start nothing serious and hurt him but more like “get off me dude” that ended up going wrong obviously. This thing happened in less than a second in the heat of the moment and these idiots around here are talking about where his eyesight was as he was turning around supposedly “proving” the intention :lol: :lol: clearly none of them have been in a real fight in their lives.

And yea when has lebron ever actually tried to start a fight? Lebron is a little bi*tch and also a businessman covering his clean image, both reasons why he wouldn’t actually purposely punch this lunatic lol. Just idiotic hate. And I think lebron is a clown for some of his off court stuff, China and stupid comments in media and what not.

They should absolutely both be suspended due to the outcome as lebron landed obviously and that other lunatic showed the most rage we’ve seen since the malice at the palace (once again, if someone can find an example of more range since then, please post it).


I had posted this in the other thread - This incident is almost verbatim what happened between Marcus Camby and Danny Ferry 20 years ago. Except, you know, Stewart didn't accidentally hit his coach :lol:



Ferry got tangled and swung at Camby to get him off. The swing is intentional but the placement and severity was not. Camby is mad but then absolutely freaks out when he realizes he's bloodied. Which is exactly what I think happened with Stewart. He didn't initially look to fight.

I think the most we'll see is a game for each player.


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Post#235 » by Dirk » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:35 am

Added a poll.

Let's reach a verdict.
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Post#236 » by Capn'O » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:39 am

Dirk wrote:Added a poll.

Let's reach a verdict.


Can you add a "yes, but it wasn't that bad" option :lol:
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Post#237 » by Saciid11 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:39 am

Ducklett wrote:Lebron should get 2-3 games. Stewart should get a large fine for delaying the game, maybe one game out.

I think it is funny there are posters who are basically saying you can punch people in the face as long as you check on them afterward.


Lebron fouled him hard a day he was ejected from the game, so why should he get a 3 game suspension for that and the guy who tried to actually fight him get no suspension. Stewart was being held back by his whole team.
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Post#238 » by art_tatum » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:44 am

Boardbreaker wrote:Clearest angle I've seen so far



This right here. Clear as day.
Also did MWP look at harden when he hit him with the people elbow? No. But everyone and their mamas know he did it on purpose.

I can't believe lestans are still arguing this like it was an accident from getting untangled. Have some dignity.
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Post#239 » by Teal25 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:44 am

Two things can be true, Lebron did this intentionally and Isaiah is a nut case.
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Post#240 » by NyKnicks1714 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:45 am

Capn'O wrote:
Dirk wrote:Added a poll.

Let's reach a verdict.


Can you add a "yes, but it wasn't that bad" option :lol:


Yeah it was pretty clearly intentional, but also clearly not meant to be an actual punch to the face. LeBron wanted to hit him, but not like that.

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