Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

[lambchop]

I wouldnt be surprised if stewart tries to end brons career the next time these two teams meet. It would be better for bron to go for load management in that game OR the lakers have to find a way to get Perkins out of retirement.

That would be crazy if some young "nobody" player ends the career of the king, an icon, a top 5 player at least All time. That would be worth a lifetime ban probably.
Has a player ever suffered a career ending injury from a intentional act?

Tbh, something like this happening seems totally plausible judging by stewart's reaction. Not necessarily next game but sometime when they cross paths.

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[LivingLegend]

People- "Lebron is so soft he would never survive in any other era....queen"

****LeBron punches somebody in the face

People- "Lebron is such a thug kick him out of the NBA"

[LivingLegend]

My question is (since i didn't watch the game): why did LeBron go after Stewart? Did they have an altercation or smack talking? Or was he just the one next to LeBron when he decided to do what he did from frustration /tantrum of losing.

Without being dramatic like everybody else in this thread....it looked like Stewart was shoving Lebron in a box out. LeBron didn't like it and swiped at him to get him off and "push back". He instead his him in the face.

Do I believe LeBron meant to swipe him off? Yes. Do I believe Lebon James who has zero history of cheap shotting, ejections or brawling in 19 years meant to punch another player in the face? No.

[art_tatum]

People- "Lebron is so soft he would never survive in any other era....queen"

****LeBron punches somebody in the face

People- "Lebron is such a thug kick him out of the NBA"

No it's more like he sucker punches a 20 yr old cause he got upset at him for fighting for position.

That's not a man.

If someone insults say his wife and then he throws hands that's different.

[lambchop]

People- "Lebron is so soft he would never survive in any other era....queen"

****LeBron punches somebody in the face

People- "Lebron is such a thug kick him out of the NBA"

Facts. Bron is really strong. He easily bloodied Stewart. But I only just realised that Stewart is just 20 years old. He has Steven Adams potential in terms of strength.

[MambaVenom24]

I get it it's the qing so there is automatically a lot of drama but let's get real for a second, stewart shoved lebron, lebron retaliated, retaliated like an idiot of course, end of story.

It was intentional indeed, but it wasn't intentional in the way of I'm going to punch this **** and knock him out kind of way , it was more like I need to get this guy off me and teach him a lesson, unfortunately instead of connecting to the body chest area it got him in the eye. I honestly think if there is no blood bron gets a flagrant 1 and a short leash for the rest off the game.

Stewart felt emasculated for a bit probably and felt the need to overcompensate and it should cost him more games than lebron, he definetly will not be available for the rematch in 4 games ,he is young dumb and full of ... he went way way over the top.

I think they will suspend lebron for 1 game tops and honestly it shouldn't be even that one game, but the whole **** show stewart created will probably warrant an lbj suspension. Lebron was an idiot but the whole spectacle was not his doing, he did a stupid and lame action.

I'm all for bringing the pitchforks when we talk about lebron for 1 million reasons, I have them in the closet at the ready, but this is not the occasion, it really isn't.

[Jkam31]

No, it looked 100% to be on purpose. How many times have you seen someone getting their eye cut up on a free throw box out due to a "natural motion"?

How did it look 100% on purpose?

Look at that close up. They're locked up, Lebron pulls his arm (bent at the elbow) against Stewarts opposing force, and the angle of his momentum lines up with where Stewarts face was located. Again, open fisted with his hand clearly open through the motion. Please tell me where this "100% on purpose" intent can be seen? I'm open to interpretation if there's actual evidence beyond "well he's bleeding because of the physical interactions that occured".

I also want to mention, that wasn't a box out. I've been playing basketball for 20+ years and coaching for about 12 and have never, ever taught a box like that. Stewart was point blank pushing and holding him, which is why LeBron swung away to get him off of him.

I think it was 100% intentional to hit him...I just don't think it was 100% intentional to hit him in the face or hurt him.

Embarrassing

[LivingLegend]

People- "Lebron is so soft he would never survive in any other era....queen"

****LeBron punches somebody in the face

People- "Lebron is such a thug kick him out of the NBA"

No it's more like he sucker punches a 20 yr old cause he got upset at him for fighting for position.

That's not a man.

If someone insults say his wife and then he throws hands that's different.

Dramatic. He swiped him off and looks like he went for a clear out and accidentally ended up hitting his head, he even went over to give him a hand up immediately after he did it.

If Stewart didn't act like a psychopath this whole thing would be a non story.

[Takingbaconback]

I could have Lebron bleeding if I swung my elbows as hard as I could to his nose/eye too. Just a cowardly sucker punch

[SlovenianDragon]

A CLENCHED FIST IS NOT A SWIPE...

People keep saying swipe but i dont think they know what it means. When you swipe its with an open hand...

NOT A CLOSED FIST!

[trueballer7]

Just need to post the best angle of the event... This was a closed fist strike to the face. This was on purpose and deserves suspension.

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There is no he was just swiping...

There is no accidental elbow...

It is a closed fist to the face.

^ THIS.

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Best angle of the incident. People claiming it was unintentional is acting blindly. Too bad for LeQueen, it connected and resulted to a bloody mess...

Urge and opportunity. Face to face, the thought of hitting him, wouldnt have even entered his mind. He doesnt trust his arms like that, so he doesnt feel it. Being sideways, his body already in a compact and tensed stance fighting for position, all his weight waiting to be transfered on the left arm and a chance to hammer down with the safest part of the hand, he felt the power all the way through and he let go. A 5 games suspension this should be, if there is consistency in implementing the rules. This was all intent and zero accident.

[Diop]

at the very least, if you can't prove intent its reckless head high contact which caused an injury requiring medical attention.

i'd give lebron 1 game. or maybe 2 for lebron and 1 for stewart.

I understand you got hit in the face, but you have to react better than that.

[Jkam31]

Wow, people here are ridiculous. This kind of stuff makes certain people come out in droves to create their own narratives in order to further fuel their own hatred. LeBron very clearly was annoyed with being grabbed and tried to hit Stewart's arm off him hard (which he shouldn't have done) but accidentally hit him the face. You actually think he was deliberately trying to punch Stewart in the face? When have you ever seen LeBron legitimately try to get into a fight? Way too image-focused and definitely wouldn't want to piss off someone that big, which something like that would be guaranteed to do.

Even without the intent to hit him in the face, the result happened, and so LeBron should be suspended a game. But what Stewart did is clearly worse. Absolutely unhinged rage that caused him to have to be restrained like 10 different times, and then he ran into the tunnel to try to beat the hell out of LeBron on the other end, all the while putting teammates and staff members at risk in his efforts. That kind of hotheadedness is absolutely insane and makes him a real on-court danger. I haven't seen a dude lose his cool that much since Malice at the Palace. If his teammates (way to go Cade) staff members didn't do the job they did, Stewart legitimately might have done something to cost himself his career.

Accidentally hit him in the face

[Martin]

At first it looked accidental but from one of the angles you can clearly see LeBron looks at Stewart and then pulls his hand towards Stewart's face.
Very weak from such a experienced player, seems like when things aren't going well it's way more easier to turn into a bitch.

[basketballRob]

Stewart's reaction IMO shows he's not a stable individual, it was ridiculous watching it in real time. The league needs to force him to get some kind of counseling. There's a pattern here.

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Yeah I bet James skips all the Detroit games from now on.

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[Jkam31]

People- "Lebron is so soft he would never survive in any other era....queen"

****LeBron punches somebody in the face

People- "Lebron is such a thug kick him out of the NBA"

You’re the type to a guy who sucker punches someone is tough

[HEAT33]

Frustration setting in for LeCheapshot as he knows this team won’t even make the playoffs.
Maybe LeCheapshot needs more help

[zike_42]

In Aussie Rules, their tribunal has sections of a report for the conduct, impact and contact, with body separate from head/groin. So just because someone didn't mean to hit someone in the head, it still counts. So going off those guidelines, LeBron's action would be classified as intentional, impact is medium/high and contact to the head. This would give 2-3 games suspended. Not the same, but just pointing out that how hard and where the hit landed is also important for making the decision.

[FreeThrowLine]

I went back and watched from the middle of the 2nd quarter through to the incident, just focusing on Stewart to see if there was anything leading up to the incident

Other than having blood wiped off his arm in the 2nd quarter from possibly a scratch, I didn’t see anything leading up to the play

I did notice he was still limping from twisting his ankle not long ago and it’s quite impressive how he was able to block/affect a few shots by AD and DAJ despite it.

I also noticed the guy never touches the ball unless he grabs a rebound. That alone would make me want to go after someone

But let’s be honest, someone punches you in the eye hard enough to draw blood and then very likely has something unapologetic to say and I can understand his initial reaction.

The only issue I have with Stewart was his 2nd and 3rd attempt and it warrants a 1 game suspension only because of where it was and the history of that crowd

I’d slap Lebron with a 2-3 game suspension, he’s got away with so much over the years, it’s about time the rules start applying to him too

[trickshot]

I wouldnt be surprised if stewart tries to end brons career the next time these two teams meet. It would be better for bron to go for load management in that game OR the lakers have to find a way to get Perkins out of retirement.

That would be crazy if some young "nobody" player ends the career of the king, an icon, a top 5 player at least All time. That would be worth a lifetime ban probably.
Has a player ever suffered a career ending injury from a intentional act?

Tbh, something like this happening seems totally plausible judging by stewart's reaction. Not necessarily next game but sometime when they cross paths.

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nothing is happening. He had Lebron in his face when this thing was fresh and he waited till there were bodies between them to go berserk. They are all hold me back merchants.