Now With a Poll-Most Disappointing Bull of last 20 Years

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #21 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:38 am

Drose? Wtf

Nonsense

RoseTheFuture22 · Post #22 » by **RoseTheFuture22** » Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:55 am

Tyrus would tease us but I think we knew pretty early on that he probably would never put it all together.

I think I would have to say Lauri for disappointing. I didn't like the pick originally but his first 2 years he was legitimately awesome and got our hopes up that he could be a guy you could build around. Then he just completely fell apart for really no reason(other than Boylen)

McDermott would be second. He was overdrafted by GarPax which wasn't his fault but he was supposed to be someone who could contribute day 1 but he wasn't ready

troza · Post #23 » by **troza** » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:09 am

Voted D. Rose... again, not that I didn't like him and all but we had a glimpse of a generational player, a glimpse of success and it was gone with an injury. More his heartbreaking injury at that time than himself that is disappointing. We got a taste of what D.Rose was like... dominating against all other top PG on the league... and then it was all gone.

But from all those players, that's the one I would love to happen again. All others were flops or meh... even if we had some hope, none was bigger than what we got with D.Rose and nothing compares to the what if he didn't get injured.

infinity · Post #24 » by **infinity** » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:42 pm

I voted Rose, but I remember thinking back in the day that Snell could become the next Rip Hamilton. Boy was I wrong.

GusFring · Post #25 » by **GusFring** » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:40 pm

yeah sorry to say, d-rose

GoBlue72391 · Post #26 » by **GoBlue72391** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:23 pm

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Drose? Wtf

Nonsense

It's not nonsense and the reasoning for it has been clearly explained. Anyone disregarding it at this point is looking at it from a purely emotional perspective and equating it with insulting Rose and downplaying his achievements when that's not what's happening at all.

CjayC · Post #27 » by **CjayC** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:47 pm

Tyrus. I even put together a highlight package of his tourney back in the day :-?

dice · Post #28 » by **dice** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:07 pm

the bulls would have won more games over the course of his time under contract had rose never been drafted. that makes him a huge disappointment overall. whereas before the ACL he had obviously well exceeded expectations

i voted for boozer instinctively but would have voted for rose had i thought about it more

Axl Rose · Post #29 » by **Axl Rose** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:08 pm

Booz was always going to be a disappointment from the start as he wasn't Bron, Wade, Bosh, or even Amare.

Post #30 » by **RedBulls23** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:08 pm

kodo wrote:
GoBlue72391 wrote:Rose has to be the only option, right? No one else comes close.

An MVP is a disappointing outcome compared to Tyrus who couldn't even start in the league? I'm not sure how Rose is even on the list, have all these other options won MVPs I never knew about?

Agreed. Rose exceeded his potential/expectations when he became a league MVP. Everything else that happened on the court was out of his control.

Tyrus Thomas is the easy answer here.

Post #31 » by **Ice Man** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:47 pm

Ben Wallace for me,, and he is not on the list.

Post #32 » by **Michael Jackson** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 am

dice wrote:the bulls would have won more games over the course of his time under contract had rose never been drafted. that makes him a huge disappointment overall. whereas before the ACL he had obviously well exceeded expectations

i voted for boozer instinctively but would have voted for rose had i thought about it more

Rose raised the bar for those teams though and they over performed imho. I don’t think that team competes as hard if they never have Rose. Maybe I’m wrong

dice · Post #33 » by **dice** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:43 pm

Michael Jackson wrote:
dice wrote:the bulls would have won more games over the course of his time under contract had rose never been drafted. that makes him a huge disappointment overall. whereas before the ACL he had obviously well exceeded expectations

i voted for boozer instinctively but would have voted for rose had i thought about it more

Rose raised the bar for those teams though and they over performed imho. I don’t think that team competes as hard if they never have Rose. Maybe I’m wrong

probably true to some extent. but thibs got the knicks to compete hard last year and they had even less to work with than those bulls would have w/o derrick

Jello Biafra · Post #34 » by **Jello Biafra** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:18 pm

dice wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:
dice wrote:the bulls would have won more games over the course of his time under contract had rose never been drafted. that makes him a huge disappointment overall. whereas before the ACL he had obviously well exceeded expectations

i voted for boozer instinctively but would have voted for rose had i thought about it more

Rose raised the bar for those teams though and they over performed imho. I don’t think that team competes as hard if they never have Rose. Maybe I’m wrong

probably true to some extent. but thibs got the knicks to compete hard last year and they had even less to work with than those bulls would have w/o derrick

JWill. The second pick in the draft. Crashed his motorcycle into a light pole on his first ride. In direct violation of his contract. Ending his career after one season. MFer. Least he didn't kill anybody like Ruggs or J.R. Smith.

Post #35 » by **Michael Jackson** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:39 pm

dice wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:
dice wrote:the bulls would have won more games over the course of his time under contract had rose never been drafted. that makes him a huge disappointment overall. whereas before the ACL he had obviously well exceeded expectations

i voted for boozer instinctively but would have voted for rose had i thought about it more

Rose raised the bar for those teams though and they over performed imho. I don’t think that team competes as hard if they never have Rose. Maybe I’m wrong

probably true to some extent. but thibs got the knicks to compete hard last year and they had even less to work with than those bulls would have w/o derrick

It becomes a grey area of speculation. Thibs “legend” grew in part because Rose was great. Because of that synergy and the surprise success he had, to this day players are willing to buy in. I think they needed each other and in a way still do. There is clearly a bond there. That said I wish I had a bind with Thibs. I love that maniac.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #36 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:08 am

Tyrus Thomas. Had the highest raw potential that wasn't curtailed by injuries/medical issues.

Last high lotto pick by a team firmly expected to be in the postseason for the foreseeable future. Drafted over a guy who will get legitimate hall of fame consideration in LaMarcus Aldridge.

Honestly the guy should have been what John Collins is now but with 1st team all defense.

With that said I'm surprised Lauri didn't get more votes. This was a guy that many people were comparing to DIRK after his rookie year. To which I would say at the time, the comp didn't seem entirely crazy. I never really saw the Amare/Tyrus comparisons. Amare had way more size/power and didn't defend at all.

RSP83 · Post #37 » by **RSP83** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:28 am

For me, Jay Williams easily. He was a really high profile draft pick, arguably dominated the college game. Before DRose, he was the guy seen as potentially the savior of this franchise post-MJ.

Jay had a less than stellar rookie campaign (although I'd blame Cartwright for part of it, forcing the team to play triangle, not really suitable for a speedy run the court guy like Jay). The motorcycle injury was really dumb and disappointing as a fan rooting for the Bulls and him to comeback and have a strong sophomore season.

RSP83 · Post #38 » by **RSP83** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:30 am

bullsnewdynasty wrote:Tyrus Thomas. Had the highest raw potential that wasn't curtailed by injuries/medical issues.

Last high lotto pick by a team firmly expected to be in the postseason for the foreseeable future. Drafted over a guy who will get legitimate hall of fame consideration in LaMarcus Aldridge.

Honestly the guy should have been what John Collins is now but with 1st team all defense.

With that said I'm surprised Lauri didn't get more votes. This was a guy that many people were comparing to DIRK after his rookie year. To which I would say at the time, the comp didn't seem entirely crazy. I never really saw the Amare/Tyrus comparisons. Amare had way more size/power and didn't defend at all.

I can forgive the Tyrus Thomas pick. He was a guy with really high ceiling, but very risky that he may never figure it out. He's a high risk, high potential. He was a calculated risk.

RSP83 · Post #39 » by **RSP83** » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:50 am

I understand the DRose disappointment, but refuse to call him the most disappointing Bulls player. He gave us the best when he's healthy, and just not the same player after injury. We all know we won't be getting the same player again. To me, it's more sad than disappointing. I'm disappointed that it had to happen to our franchise and to DRose. But I'm not disappointed with DRose.

vxmike · Post #40 » by **vxmike** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:56 am

RoseTheFuture22 wrote:Tyrus would tease us but I think we knew pretty early on that he probably would never put it all together.

I think I would have to say Lauri for disappointing. I didn't like the pick originally but his first 2 years he was legitimately awesome and got our hopes up that he could be a guy you could build around. Then he just completely fell apart for really no reason(other than Boylen)

McDermott would be second. He was overdrafted by GarPax which wasn't his fault but he was supposed to be someone who could contribute day 1 but he wasn't ready

I wanted to vote for Doug but then I realized it wasn’t his fault GarPax traded a huge pile of stuff to overdraft a guy who clearly lacked the physical tools to be an impact player.

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