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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1561 » by CelticFaninLBC » Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:06 pm

The 3 point shooting team percentage would improve if Tatum and Horford get closer to their career averages. They're 5-6% under career norms.
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Post#1562 » by BK_2020 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:46 am

Trade Horford, Schroder and Pritchard to Minny for expirings (Pat Bev and Prince). Minny throws in Bolmaro to sweeten the deal.
Minny shore up the 1 and the 5 spot for a playoffs push.
Celtics get out of Horford money for 2022-23 and get a better prospect in Bolmaro.
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Post#1563 » by Celts17Pride » Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:44 am

Best package for Juancho, Schroder, Langford and a 1st for who?

Celtics can bring back $20.75 million with that package. Harrison Barnes? J Grant? Sabonis?
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Post#1564 » by Larry_Russell » Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:36 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Best package for Juancho, Schroder, Langford and a 1st for who?

Celtics can bring back $20.75 million with that package. Harrison Barnes? J Grant? Sabonis?



Turner for Juancho, Timelord and Schroder


Smart/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo/Thomas
BRown/Nesmith/Hauser
Tatum/Grant/Parker
Turner/HorfordKanter

Look for a vet pg/sg off the bench to solidify that by dealing Bruno I guess. (Frank Ntilikina,
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Post#1565 » by cl2117 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:15 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Best package for Juancho, Schroder, Langford and a 1st for who?

Celtics can bring back $20.75 million with that package. Harrison Barnes? J Grant? Sabonis?

That won't land you Sabonis. Should probably get you Barnes, but he's not worth it. Probably just short of getting you Grant, but that's the best fit out of the three, so feel like he's the Goldilocks option.

Maybe Christian Wood? I've soured on him a bit the more I watch just because I don't think his fit next to Timelord is as good as I thought it was since he's truly more of a 5 than a 4, but still a good player.

Blazers look ready to do a fire sale on anyone not named Lillard, but all the guys there I'd like are having awful years (Nurk, Nance Jr., Covington).
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1566 » by Triple7 » Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:25 pm

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Smart move by Garrison Mathews!

Why would the Celtics have any use for a 38% three point shooting wing?

Garrison Mathews, Max Strus, Desmond Bane who needs shooting? Apparently not the Celtics


Ugh. Frustrating af. Is Austin making these damn decisions, was it Brad? This FO either hates shooting or they are really bad at picking them :lol:



Well they focused on having players that can defend, hoping the offense would catch up, or that the Jays can carry the load. Bad move.
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Post#1567 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:02 pm

I know Nance is having a **** year but I'm fairly confident he'll do well in Boston. It's like having another Grant Williams. If we can get him for a 2nd and filler, I'd do it barring a star being available. Thad Young is another guy that can help. But again it starts with Jays' willingness to be more consistent with the ball movement thing for these guys to be effective. If we continue on with 1 part movement, 3 parts hero ball, someone like Clarkson or Barton would fit the team better. But then again we already have Schroder.
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Smart move by Garrison Mathews!

Why would the Celtics have any use for a 38% three point shooting wing?

Garrison Mathews, Max Strus, Desmond Bane who needs shooting? Apparently not the Celtics


Ugh. Frustrating af. Is Austin making these damn decisions, was it Brad? This FO either hates shooting or they are really bad at picking them :lol:



Well they focused on having players that can defend, hoping the offense would catch up, or that the Jays can carry the load. Bad move.


Nesmith shot 37% from 3 last season, and defended, or at least emphatically tried to.
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Post#1569 » by Curmudgeon » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:25 pm

Nesmith and Pritchard need regular minutes. If that happens their shooting will improve.
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Post#1570 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:08 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Best package for Juancho, Schroder, Langford and a 1st for who?

Celtics can bring back $20.75 million with that package. Harrison Barnes? J Grant? Sabonis?


Eh. I'm leaning towards trying to get under the luxury tax by dealing Juancho/Schroeder, but I don't know if it's possible
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Post#1571 » by BK_2020 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:13 am

Celts17Pride wrote:Best package for Juancho, Schroder, Langford and a 1st for who?

Celtics can bring back $20.75 million with that package. Harrison Barnes? J Grant? Sabonis?

I just don't see why any NBA team would be convinced to take a particular package of crappy assets Boston can put together. The way trades works is a team has an asset that other teams want, and these other teams try to put together an offer package. When Harden was traded for Jarrett Allen, Levert, Taurean Prince, and a bunch of picks, it wasn't New Jersey who let the league know that JA, Levert, Taurean Prince, and 4 picks and 3 swaps would be available as a pupu platter, and the rest of the league scrambling to get their hands on that pupu platter.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1572 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:54 am

Alright, one unlikely scenario: Hawks want Smart next to Trae to give them a defensive stopper and leader, are willing to give up Reddish - Reddish goes to SAC, who want to move off a point guard and get a young wing. We get Haliburton or Mitchell, maybe adding a 1st, and Bagley's expiring; or we structure a deal with filler to ATL, Gallo to SAC and De'Aaron Fox coming back. Dependent on SAC's desire for Reddish, their options for the pg log jam, and their desire to start getting out from Fox's money.
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Post#1573 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:57 am

Only Horford salary dump I can come up with: Al, Juancho to Orlando, Gary Harris, Robin Lopez, Mo Wagner to BOS. Orlando has to want Al as a vet mentor to Carter/Bamba/Isaac (and he has to want to go there). We squeak under the luxury tax *this year*, Harris' 20 million and Lopez' 5 are expiring.
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Post#1574 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:58 am

Curmudgeon wrote:Nesmith and Pritchard need regular minutes. If that happens their shooting will improve.


Pritchard didn't forget how to shoot, he's just thrown by wearing that mask and losing regular minutes. Nesmith needs to stop pressing. Idk if he'll pan out, that problem's usually gone for guys by their second year..
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Post#1575 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:46 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Nesmith and Pritchard need regular minutes. If that happens their shooting will improve.


Pritchard didn't forget how to shoot, he's just thrown by wearing that mask and losing regular minutes. Nesmith needs to stop pressing. Idk if he'll pan out, that problem's usually gone for guys by their second year..



If he had consitant minutes he would not be pressing.

When you get:

Minutes - FGM - FGA
11:19 0 4
3:59 0 2
11:34 0 4
Did Not Play
Did Not Play
Did Not Play
1:02 0 0
2:29 1 1
18:18 5 8
20:48 0 5
7:10 0 1
5:30 1 2
11:27 2 5
10:50 1 3
11:09 0 2
3:45 0 0
10:19 0 1
6:04 2 5
11:31 2 4
10:03 2 4
Did Not Play
Did Not Play
5:59 0 0
22:01 3 6
14:04 4 8
3:37 1 1
13:19 1 4
4:51 0 2
22:34 3 8
26:29 0 5

YOu cannot get into any kind of a rhyme with that at all. Especially a 22 year old kid in his 2nd year in the league
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Post#1576 » by ddb » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:15 pm

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This is why I'm on the TPE for Christian Wood bandwagon. This team is going to have problems at C. Al is 35, Rob is good but unreliable as a starter.

Thing is, I think Wyc is too damn cheap to spend the money needed to bring in TPE guy without dumping salary.


I love C Wood and think he is a good fit and need. But I am guessing a 1st to get him, But are we holding all our firsts out of trades because they want to go all in on Beal this summer. Just my guess.



IDK if a first and TPE gets Wood.

Seems light to me.

BUt if it did work, then youth and TPE would work as well.


Wood is interesting. Before he made it in the league I remember watching a couple summer league games (and he wasn't a rookie) and thinking to myself, "man, this kid can really play...surprised he hasn't made it yet." a couple of years later he was starting to play well...My concern with Wood is that he's never been on a good team...his play hasn't translated to winning at all. Perhaps that's just the situations he's been in....it's entirely possible that putting him in a good situation like Boston could work wonders....Worth a shot I suppose, but I don't think Houston is going to give him away for anything less than a good deal for them. Multiple picks. I do think Boston has what it would take. Probably a 1st, a young player like Romeo, and the ability to absorb his salary into the TPE.
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Post#1577 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:19 pm

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I love C Wood and think he is a good fit and need. But I am guessing a 1st to get him, But are we holding all our firsts out of trades because they want to go all in on Beal this summer. Just my guess.



IDK if a first and TPE gets Wood.

Seems light to me.

BUt if it did work, then youth and TPE would work as well.


Wood is interesting. Before he made it in the league I remember watching a couple summer league games (and he wasn't a rookie) and thinking to myself, "man, this kid can really play...surprised he hasn't made it yet." a couple of years later he was starting to play well...My concern with Wood is that he's never been on a good team...his play hasn't translated to winning at all. Perhaps that's just the situations he's been in....it's entirely possible that putting him in a good situation like Boston could work wonders....Worth a shot I suppose, but I don't think Houston is going to give him away for anything less than a good deal for them. Multiple picks. I do think Boston has what it would take. Probably a 1st, a young player like Romeo, and the ability to absorb his salary into the TPE.



I would do Timelord and a first for him easy. Give them Schroder too as I believe they would be able to retrade him by deadline for an asset.

I like Timelord alot, but I have very little faith in his ability to stay on the court. And Wood gives a Center/PF that keeps our versatility up.

Start Richardson until NEsmith gets up to speed and bring Horford off the bench to solidify our young guys.

Smart/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Grant
Wood/Horford
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Post#1578 » by ddb » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:30 pm

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IDK if a first and TPE gets Wood.

Seems light to me.

BUt if it did work, then youth and TPE would work as well.


Wood is interesting. Before he made it in the league I remember watching a couple summer league games (and he wasn't a rookie) and thinking to myself, "man, this kid can really play...surprised he hasn't made it yet." a couple of years later he was starting to play well...My concern with Wood is that he's never been on a good team...his play hasn't translated to winning at all. Perhaps that's just the situations he's been in....it's entirely possible that putting him in a good situation like Boston could work wonders....Worth a shot I suppose, but I don't think Houston is going to give him away for anything less than a good deal for them. Multiple picks. I do think Boston has what it would take. Probably a 1st, a young player like Romeo, and the ability to absorb his salary into the TPE.



I would do Timelord and a first for him easy. Give them Schroder too as I believe they would be able to retrade him by deadline for an asset.

I like Timelord alot, but I have very little faith in his ability to stay on the court. And Wood gives a Center/PF that keeps our versatility up.

Start Richardson until NEsmith gets up to speed and bring Horford off the bench to solidify our young guys.

Smart/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Grant
Wood/Horford


I think trading Timelord on a poison pill contract this season is off most tables. If he gets dealt it’s after the NBA calendar year rolls over to 22-23
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Post#1579 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:33 pm

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Wood is interesting. Before he made it in the league I remember watching a couple summer league games (and he wasn't a rookie) and thinking to myself, "man, this kid can really play...surprised he hasn't made it yet." a couple of years later he was starting to play well...My concern with Wood is that he's never been on a good team...his play hasn't translated to winning at all. Perhaps that's just the situations he's been in....it's entirely possible that putting him in a good situation like Boston could work wonders....Worth a shot I suppose, but I don't think Houston is going to give him away for anything less than a good deal for them. Multiple picks. I do think Boston has what it would take. Probably a 1st, a young player like Romeo, and the ability to absorb his salary into the TPE.



I would do Timelord and a first for him easy. Give them Schroder too as I believe they would be able to retrade him by deadline for an asset.

I like Timelord alot, but I have very little faith in his ability to stay on the court. And Wood gives a Center/PF that keeps our versatility up.

Start Richardson until NEsmith gets up to speed and bring Horford off the bench to solidify our young guys.

Smart/Pritchard
Richardson/Romeo
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Grant
Wood/Horford


I think trading Timelord on a poison pill contract this season is off most tables. If he gets dealt it’s after the NBA calendar year rolls over to 22-23


Might be right there.

Not sure what the offer would be for Wood.

They could use a young PG?
sg: Green
sf: KmartJr
PF: Tate and Garuba
C: Sengun

We dont really have a young PG to entice them with though. is there one attainable in a 3 team deal perhaps?
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Post#1580 » by BK_2020 » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:36 pm

Payton Pritchard for Wood haha

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