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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#221 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 5, 2021 7:03 pm

Canadian6ersFan wrote:She sounds too excited and not "settled in" all game long. I don't know how else to describe it..


This is what she is, the standard issue modern day shouter, but she adds an extra dose of giddiness and cheerleading - hell, she started singing the game end song the other night! Just way over the top. She is bad, and it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender - actually, her voice might be the only palatable thing.

There is no nuance whatsoever, no letting the picture tell the story, constant chatter. A nice play in the middle of the first quarter sounds just like a huge game changing play late in the game. And the constant laughter and joking between the two of them is embarrassing. Just brutal all around.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#222 » by Mr Chim » Fri Nov 5, 2021 7:29 pm

Kate is so fun.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#223 » by BullyKing » Fri Nov 5, 2021 8:08 pm

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Canadian6ersFan wrote:She sounds too excited and not "settled in" all game long. I don't know how else to describe it..


This is what she is, the standard issue modern day shouter, but she adds an extra dose of giddiness and cheerleading - hell, she started singing the game end song the other night! Just way over the top. She is bad, and it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender - actually, her voice might be the only palatable thing.

There is no nuance whatsoever, no letting the picture tell the story, constant chatter. A nice play in the middle of the first quarter sounds just like a huge game changing play late in the game. And the constant laughter and joking between the two of them is embarrassing. Just brutal all around.


You said before you ever heard her that you wouldn't like her because she was a woman. Now you don't like her but claim it's not because she's a woman. Who could have predicted that coming?

Next page of the playbook is where you tell us you're the least sexist person alive.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#224 » by Skates » Fri Nov 5, 2021 9:28 pm

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Canadian6ersFan wrote:She sounds too excited and not "settled in" all game long. I don't know how else to describe it..


This is what she is, the standard issue modern day shouter, but she adds an extra dose of giddiness and cheerleading - hell, she started singing the game end song the other night! Just way over the top. She is bad, and it has absolutely nothing to do with her gender - actually, her voice might be the only palatable thing.

There is no nuance whatsoever, no letting the picture tell the story, constant chatter. A nice play in the middle of the first quarter sounds just like a huge game changing play late in the game. And the constant laughter and joking between the two of them is embarrassing. Just brutal all around.


You said before you ever heard her that you wouldn't like her because she was a woman. Now you don't like her but claim it's not because she's a woman. Who could have predicted that coming?

Next page of the playbook is where you tell us you're the least sexist person alive.


"I don't see gender" will be the quote you are looking for, like the I don't see color dog whistle.

In any case, I like that Kate is enthusiastic, she isn't as laid back as Zu or as skilled, but few are. My only complaint about what is a pretty enjoyable game presentation is that I hoped she would pull Alaa into a more modern frame of reference, but that has not happened...and when even an old fart like me gets tired of hearing those references, it is time for our Dookie to freshen things up.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#225 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:15 pm

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You said before you ever heard her that you wouldn't like her because she was a woman. Now you don't like her but claim it's not because she's a woman. Who could have predicted that coming?

Next page of the playbook is where you tell us you're the least sexist person alive.


That is so damned weak. I was dead wrong to say that initially and I copped to it - now I'm not allowed to have an opinion?

Instead of trying to win the Woke Olympics here, why don't you counter the argument and tell us how well Kate is doing and why? Because that's not as easy as attacking someone and sounding 'enlightened' at the same time.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#226 » by zaz102 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:19 pm

Not sure if power of suggestion, but I hear the Frieza similarities now. Now I just want her to call the game like she was actually Frieza.
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Post#227 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:25 pm

Skates wrote:In any case, I like that Kate is enthusiastic, she isn't as laid back as Zu or as skilled, but few are. My only complaint about what is a pretty enjoyable game presentation is that I hoped she would pull Alaa into a more modern frame of reference, but that has not happened...and when even an old fart like me gets tired of hearing those references, it is time for our Dookie to freshen things up.


Thanks for the response. I like the enthusiasm as well, and don't even mind the 'homerism', as some of my favorite local broadcasters have been virulent homers. It's making every moment like a game winning shot, which leaves no room for those calls to stand out, but that's an issue with virtually every broadcaster from the ESPN school today.

But it's the back and forth with Alaa, and the incessant joking and laughter that is the most annoying. I'm with you on Alaa, he has grown tiresome, and quite possibly adding a serious analyst would focus the broadcast more on the game.
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Re: PBP announcer Kate Scott will replace Marc Zumoff 

Post#228 » by BullyKing » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:38 pm

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You said before you ever heard her that you wouldn't like her because she was a woman. Now you don't like her but claim it's not because she's a woman. Who could have predicted that coming?

Next page of the playbook is where you tell us you're the least sexist person alive.


That is so damned weak. I was dead wrong to say that initially and I copped to it - now I'm not allowed to have an opinion?

Instead of trying to win the Woke Olympics here, why don't you counter the argument and tell us how well Kate is doing and why? Because that's not as easy as attacking someone and sounding 'enlightened' at the same time.


If I missed your apology then I apologize and applaud you for acknowledging it.

I actually like her so far but my preferences might be in the minority as I like Alaa also (though he's no Malik who was the GOAT in that position). But I admit I grade somewhat on a curve in that new announcers are typically terribly awkward. Like if you listen to summer league where they throw green announcers who haven't worked together as pairs. It's painful. Just complete dead silence for really long periods of time and no enthusiasm because they don't know these teams. She seems natural to me and is already building a rapport with Alaa. I understand not everyone likes that as I see complaints but about the joking banter but I personally enjoy it. It's one of the things that I thought made Zumoff such a master. He worked with a ton of color analysts and he always made it seem like he was great friends with whoever was next to him.
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Post#229 » by TTP » Fri Nov 5, 2021 11:11 pm

I like Alaa and have never had an issue with him like so many others have. He seems extremely friendly and personable, seems to do his homework, and occasionally says some funny things like when he's brutally honest about someone doing something terrible on the court.
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Post#230 » by mjkvol » Sat Nov 6, 2021 12:57 am

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You said before you ever heard her that you wouldn't like her because she was a woman. Now you don't like her but claim it's not because she's a woman. Who could have predicted that coming?

Next page of the playbook is where you tell us you're the least sexist person alive.


That is so damned weak. I was dead wrong to say that initially and I copped to it - now I'm not allowed to have an opinion?

Instead of trying to win the Woke Olympics here, why don't you counter the argument and tell us how well Kate is doing and why? Because that's not as easy as attacking someone and sounding 'enlightened' at the same time.


If I missed your apology then I apologize and applaud you for acknowledging it.

I actually like her so far but my preferences might be in the minority as I like Alaa also (though he's no Malik who was the GOAT in that position). But I admit I grade somewhat on a curve in that new announcers are typically terribly awkward. Like if you listen to summer league where they throw green announcers who haven't worked together as pairs. It's painful. Just complete dead silence for really long periods of time and no enthusiasm because they don't know these teams. She seems natural to me and is already building a rapport with Alaa. I understand not everyone likes that as I see complaints but about the joking banter but I personally enjoy it. It's one of the things that I thought made Zumoff such a master. He worked with a ton of color analysts and he always made it seem like he was great friends with whoever was next to him.


Very true about Zumoff, but with him it was so natural that you believed he was long time friends with the analyst, yet it never superceded the event at all, and he never injected himself into the story. And Zumoff, like all great PBP announcers, knew when to turn up the volume. With Kate, like most new announcers, it's pedal to the metal from start to finish. I don't actually dislike Alaa, and you saw how different he was working with McGinnis on Saturday night when he was kept on script by a real pro.

I'm very old school regarding announcers, and see Pat Summerall as the perfect model for working TV games - he never spoke when the picture could tell the story, and never made the broadcast about anything but the event itself, yet was personable and had great rapport with first Brooksheier and then Madden.

I don't expect any of today's broadcasters to call games like that, but just a bit of nuance and picking your spots for getting excited would be nice, and just tone down the "partner" and all the personal stuff and let the game be the thing. But I think this is what she is, for better or worse.
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Post#231 » by GoSixersBro » Sun Nov 7, 2021 12:14 am

Tom McGinnis is a breath of fresh air.
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Post#232 » by Black Mage » Sun Nov 7, 2021 5:05 pm

I think Kate has done a fine job. I take a different view of her presentation as she can't just find that top-gear that Zu or Gus Johnson or others like them are able to pull out when the game is going bonkers. Overall, I find her voice pretty smooth and easy to listen to. I still cant stand Alaa tho, I wish someone would tell him he isn't supposed to sound like a 1960's sitcom laugh track.
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Post#233 » by mksp » Sun Nov 7, 2021 5:51 pm

I really dislike Tom McGinnis as a PBP, much prefer Kate.

Tom always sounds like he's announcing a high school game.
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Post#234 » by 76ciology » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:02 pm

I dislike them all.

I just listen to random justin bieber songs when i watch Sixers games
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Post#235 » by Arsenal » Mon Nov 8, 2021 12:53 am

Always been a huge fan of Tom McGinnis, even moreso than Zumoff. Really enjoy when he gets to announce on tv.

Kate is ok so far. Not a huge fan of the "witty banter" between her and Alaa though... much prefer focusing on the game.
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Post#236 » by sixers hoops » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:17 am

Arsenal wrote:Always been a huge fan of Tom McGinnis, even moreso than Zumoff. Really enjoy when he gets to announce on tv.

Kate is ok so far. Not a huge fan of the "witty banter" between her and Alaa though... much prefer focusing on the game.


The witty banter is annoying and I’m not a big fan of her yet, but i guess it takes time to develop her style and rapport with the audience. I am annoyed by most local announcers when they first start.
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Post#237 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:00 am

I kind of realize why I dont enjoy Kate Scott and Alaa, while I understand why they paired them together.

Alaa likes to associate anything with Duke. Like he can describe McDonalds as a fast food chain that is owned by his former teammate who has a son who is a friend of coach K and coach K being a Duke coach.

While Kate Scott also likes to say this random player comes from this college.

Im not a local guy and Philly sounds like a place where there are a lot of prestigious universities. So maybe its more of a local taste while people like me who doesnt have background to US colleges gets lost?

I dont mind the college references but I hope they can volume it down a lot more and talk more about the game so it can cater to a broader international audience.

BTW, Marc Jackson, a former NBA player, is he any good on TV?
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Post#238 » by mjkvol » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:39 am

76ciology wrote:I kind of realize why I dont enjoy Kate Scott and Alaa, while I understand why they paired them together.

Alaa likes to associate anything with Duke. Like he can describe McDonalds as a fast food chain that is owned by his former teammate who has a son who is a friend of coach K and coach K being a Duke coach.

While Kate Scott also likes to say this random player comes from this college.

Im not a local guy and Philly sounds like a place where there are a lot of prestigious universities. So maybe its more of a local taste while people like me who doesnt have background to US colleges gets lost?

I dont mind the college references but I hope they can volume it down a lot more and talk more about the game so it can cater to a broader international audience.

BTW, Marc Jackson, a former NBA player, is he any good on TV?


I don't watch anything but the games, so can't really speak on Jackson other than to say that in his in-game bits promoting the post game show he doesn't seem like the most eloquent guy.

My dislike of Kate and Alaa has nothing to do with Alaa's Duke ties or any college talk, it's the incessant joking and cackling and Kate's complete lack of dynamics, ala virtually every broadcaster today. Nothing whatsoever to do with being a woman, she just has the tendency of the new breed ESPN broadcaster of making every play sound like it's a game deciding basket, always shouting. She leaves nothing in the bag for the really important moments - a nice play in the 2nd quarter of a blowout game vs. Minnesota is treated the same as a critical big play against the Warriors or Bucks.

I wasn't expecting another Marc Zumoff, but I have little hope of her toning it down. If my wife walks through the room when she's carrying on, she looks at me like "what the hell is that?"
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Post#239 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:30 pm

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76ciology wrote:I kind of realize why I dont enjoy Kate Scott and Alaa, while I understand why they paired them together.

Alaa likes to associate anything with Duke. Like he can describe McDonalds as a fast food chain that is owned by his former teammate who has a son who is a friend of coach K and coach K being a Duke coach.

While Kate Scott also likes to say this random player comes from this college.

Im not a local guy and Philly sounds like a place where there are a lot of prestigious universities. So maybe its more of a local taste while people like me who doesnt have background to US colleges gets lost?

I dont mind the college references but I hope they can volume it down a lot more and talk more about the game so it can cater to a broader international audience.

BTW, Marc Jackson, a former NBA player, is he any good on TV?


I don't watch anything but the games, so can't really speak on Jackson other than to say that in his in-game bits promoting the post game show he doesn't seem like the most eloquent guy.

My dislike of Kate and Alaa has nothing to do with Alaa's Duke ties or any college talk, it's the incessant joking and cackling and Kate's complete lack of dynamics, ala virtually every broadcaster today. Nothing whatsoever to do with being a woman, she just has the tendency of the new breed ESPN broadcaster of making every play sound like it's a game deciding basket, always shouting. She leaves nothing in the bag for the really important moments - a nice play in the 2nd quarter of a blowout game vs. Minnesota is treated the same as a critical big play against the Warriors or Bucks.

I wasn't expecting another Marc Zumoff, but I have little hope of her toning it down. If my wife walks through the room when she's carrying on, she looks at me like "what the hell is that?"



I find these two not knowing much about basketball (kate scott) or PROFESSIONAL basketball nowadays(Alaa). For instance, when I watched the recent Wizards game, Drew Gooden spoke about the importance of having a Udonis Haslem like figure to guide the players or he would talk about in game tactics on how wizards big should defend Embiid and etc. And you wont hear it with Alaa because his experience is not that current than these guys nor does he have enough experience like a Malik Rose or JJ Redick. I dont even know Alaa played in the NBA until I googled who this guy was. So im thinking, maybe Marc Jackson could know better because when I google Marc Jackson he seems to be very opinionated about current NBA news (i.e Ben Simmons).

Then for Kate, no disrespect, but she knows very little about the game. Specially compared to what she knows on other topics like college footballs or other colleges. She just tries to distract anyone by trying to animate each plays and we know its not good.

My complain about Alaa was even before Zumoff retired. But then Zumoff is just so good that he can carry the broadcast. But that isnt the case right now.

Overall, as a non local guy, I find lost in most of their discussion. And mind you, Im a big basketball guy and you can just check how much i post in this site. I even knew just one sport and its basketball.

So im just saying that I realized that these two (kate and alaa) covering the games is maybe not for all people. It’s as if like im listening a standup comedy with mostly inside jokes that I dont get. And its not like I dont know comedy at all.
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Post#240 » by Eyeamok » Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:10 pm

Zumoff was good. But I will never forget when Ben made a 3 to start the season last year or the year before. And he basically said...he made one now leave him alone ! WTF really ! No announcer is perfect. I think because Zumoff was there for so long he was like a comfortable chair. This is what you know this is what you are used to enjoy it. It's hard for anyone to come in and just replace basically a legend. As other have said give Kate some time let her find her groove. Let's see how she is next season or the season after that.
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