Official NBA COVID Protocol thread (please read the OP)

JujitsuFlip · Post #641 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:32 pm

kg01 wrote:
CoP wrote:Heat-Spurs is postponed because Heat don't have enough players? Sign a bunch of 10-day players like every other team has had to do. Wtf league. This season is lame.

I'd be fine with trotting out there with a bunch-a randos ... if everybody had to do it. But, as has been the case for months, it's selectively enforced. They're not even tryna hide it anymore.

For real, that's bogus.

everdiso · Post #642 » by **everdiso** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:32 pm

Read on Twitter

Trash league.

Bornstellar · Post #643 » by **Bornstellar** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:41 pm

What a joke. So Butler and Robinson play 35 minutes last night and today they're injured and Miami is allowed a postponement instead of forfeiting or having to add some Gleague guys? What a crock of s***

raleigh · Post #644 » by **raleigh** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:52 pm

I think assuming favoritism is wishful thinking. It's much more likely that this is being mismanaged.

When the expectation is that teams need to rush around at the last minute to sign anyone they can find, you need a better, more realistic plan in place.

They can start by capping the number of 10-days that a team is expected to sign.

cool007 · Post #645 » by **cool007** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:59 pm

Bornstellar wrote:What a joke. So Butler and Robinson play 35 minutes last night and today they're injured and Miami is allowed a postponement instead of forfeiting or having to add some Gleague guys? What a crock of s***

Wow!!! How does NBA allow this??

This is how you avoid back to back games to save Butler and his back and Heat's record.

Just not fair to ton of teams that have gone through it and lost games coz of it (Bulls, Hawks, Raptors, just to name a few of many).
Why Heat can get away with this ****, not sure. :banghead:

MindState · Post #646 » by **MindState** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:45 pm

Why would they grandfather players into the 10 day rule if they shortened it to 6? That makes no sense. Hawks should have nearly their entire roster back by now with the shortened rules.

thisiskoz · Post #647 » by **thisiskoz** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:55 pm

Feel free to correct me here, but in this instance it seems like a timing thing rather than any sort of favoritism. From what I read, the Heat were literally trying to sign players from the Spurs g league team in order to hit the minimum cause they were the only players likely to arrive at the game by tip.

I mean I guess if you want to gripe about the injuries and if they're legit, that's fair. I didn't see last night's game so won't comment.

And has any team forfeited a game so far this season?

CM17 · Post #648 » by **CM17** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:57 pm

I assume there wasn't enough time to get replacement players for the Heat. :dontknow:

Btw there are 26 players on the Hawks roster. Must be a record.

Sothron · Post #649 » by **Sothron** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:13 am

CM17 wrote:I assume there wasn't enough time to get replacement players for the Heat.

Btw there are 26 players on the Hawks roster. Must be a record.

Hawks only have 3 actual NBA players active. It is a crock of **** we have to eat mandatory losses while the Heat get their game postponed.

kg01 · Post #650 » by **kg01** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:23 am

Sothron wrote:
CM17 wrote:I assume there wasn't enough time to get replacement players for the Heat.

Btw there are 26 players on the Hawks roster. Must be a record.

Hawks only have 3 actual NBA players active. It is a crock of **** we have to eat mandatory losses while the Heat get their game postponed.

Still waiting for somebody to explain how this isnt a competitive disadvantage when some teams can pick and choose which games to play.

Everybody can list guys as injured when they want to and skate the rules.

Agree with @raleigh that this is more 'mismanagement' than outright fraud but heyul criminal negligence gets yer a** tossed in jail just the same.

kg01 · Post #651 » by **kg01** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:26 am

thisiskoz wrote:Feel free to correct me here, but in this instance it seems like a timing thing rather than any sort of favoritism. From what I read, the Heat were literally trying to sign players from the Spurs g league team in order to hit the minimum cause they were the only players likely to arrive at the game by tip.

I mean I guess if you want to gripe about the injuries and if their legit, that's fair. I didn't see last night's game so won't comment.

And has any team forfeited a game so far this season?

Any game where a team can't find their 8 guys should be a forfeit. Full stop. Puts the onus on the teams to have contingencies so, for example, the Heat aren't out here allegedly trying(sic) to allegedly sign dudes from allegedly the Spurs gleague team.

thisiskoz · Post #652 » by **thisiskoz** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:29 am

https://heavy.com/sports/miami-heat/aric-holman-spurs/

They literally signed a spurs g leaguer this morning.

heatwillbeback · Post #653 » by **heatwillbeback** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:43 am

Bornstellar wrote:What a joke. So Butler and Robinson play 35 minutes last night and today they're injured and Miami is allowed a postponement instead of forfeiting or having to add some Gleague guys? What a crock of s***

Butler very clearly hurt his ankle with about a minute left. He made the fts than shortly thereafter left the game. Most assumed he wouldn’t be able to go today.

As for why the game was postponed. I think it’s two reasons.

1. Mix of injuries and Covid. Before this morning Heat had two guys out with covid (Lowry and Haslem) and one replacement player (Cheathem). Heat had a ton of guys out (Bam, Dedmon, Morris, Olidipo), but most were injuries (not Covid) and therefore the team couldn’t sign guys.

2. Timing- that is until this morning when Heat got the multiple other positives…. When the team was already in SA on the road. By that time Heat likely couldn’t find replacements to make the game.

Is there a checklist of when postponements are necessary? I don’t know. But every situation has its specifics. No two are the same. I don’t know enough about some other teams issues to comment.

But I could comment on Butler being hurt. That is 100% legitimate and obvious to those who watched yesterday.

kg01 · Post #654 » by **kg01** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:47 am

thisiskoz wrote:https://heavy.com/sports/miami-heat/aric-holman-spurs/

They literally signed a spurs g leaguer this morning.

Sorry that my post sounded as if I was doubting what you wrote. That wasn't the case.

I am of the opinion that, given proper incentive, the Heat would've found the players they needed to move forward with this game.

heatwillbeback · Post #655 » by **heatwillbeback** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:58 am

kg01 wrote:
thisiskoz wrote:https://heavy.com/sports/miami-heat/aric-holman-spurs/

They literally signed a spurs g leaguer this morning.

Sorry that my post sounded as if I was doubting what you wrote. That wasn't the case.

I am of the opinion that, given proper incentive, the Heat would've found the players they needed to move forward with this game.

They tried to find players.

Read on Twitter

CS707 · Post #656 » by **CS707** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:10 am

The only equitable solution is to cancel the season and award the championship to the team with the best record.

kg01 · Post #657 » by **kg01** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:17 am

heatwillbeback wrote:
kg01 wrote:
thisiskoz wrote:https://heavy.com/sports/miami-heat/aric-holman-spurs/

They literally signed a spurs g leaguer this morning.

Sorry that my post sounded as if I was doubting what you wrote. That wasn't the case.

I am of the opinion that, given proper incentive, the Heat would've found the players they needed to move forward with this game.

They tried to find players.

Read on Twitter

I'll buy that. My point stands though. If they were facing a forfeit, they would've had a plan in place to avoid this.

heatwillbeback · Post #658 » by **heatwillbeback** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:31 am

kg01 wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:
kg01 wrote:
Sorry that my post sounded as if I was doubting what you wrote. That wasn't the case.

I am of the opinion that, given proper incentive, the Heat would've found the players they needed to move forward with this game.

They tried to find players.

Read on Twitter

I'll buy that. My point stands though. If they were facing a forfeit, they would've had a plan in place to avoid this.

Players are getting signed everywhere. So it’s not like you could hold players just in case something happens.

Before this morning Heat were decimated but by injuries, not covid. You can’t sign replacement players for injuries. When the covid wave came today Heat apparently tried to sign guys for tonight but there wasn’t enough time.

If Spurs need players in the next few days, apparently their g league team has a bunch of covid as well.

JujitsuFlip · Post #659 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:23 am

heatwillbeback wrote:
kg01 wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:
They tried to find players.

Read on Twitter

I'll buy that. My point stands though. If they were facing a forfeit, they would've had a plan in place to avoid this.

Players are getting signed everywhere. So it’s not like you could hold players just in case something happens.

Before this morning Heat were decimated but by injuries, not covid. You can’t sign replacement players for injuries. When the covid wave came today Heat apparently tried to sign guys for tonight but there wasn’t enough time.

If Spurs need players in the next few days, apparently their g league team has a bunch of covid as well.

Well, the bolded isn't entirely true. The hardship exception has been around for at minimum 7 years but I assume much longer than that.

Miami easily could've signed a regular hardship player for the 4 of Bam, Morris, Oladipo, and Dedmon being out, if they have not already; separate from their covid hardship players.

durka · Post #660 » by **durka** » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:12 am

This season has been a huge blemish for Adam Silver and the NBA as a whole. At least when thee league was fully cancelled there was some excitement and anticipation for them to come back. I've never felt more disinterested or apathy in 20 or so years of being a die-hard fan of the league. I have no desire to watch a watered down, inferior product and most people I know feel the same way. I haven't watched a Raps game in over a month, which would have been unthinkable even last season.

The way this situation has been dealt with has turned me off from the sport in general and I'm now finding new interests and hobbies to pass the time. I feel bad for people who pay for tickets to go see the best players in the world play and end up watching a bunch of G leaguers who have never played with eachother. The NBA making a desicion clearly based on maximizing profits is at the expense of their paying customers.

Sorry for this rant, but its sad watching something you love completely go to **** infront of your eyes.