NBA Trade Thread # 5

[nomorezorro]

that says we’re under the cap so i think the realgm trade checker may not be the most up to date resource

[coldfish]

that says we’re under the cap so i think the realgm trade checker may not be the most up to date resource

You are right. It has to be DJJ

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxwm76le

[nitric0]

C. Wood, high risk high reward? Would he simmer down a bit with vet leadership from our vets?

[sco]

Actually, a guy who we haven't talked about much is Olynyk. He's due back before the deadline, wouldn't cost us as much as Grant, and gives us a very good 2-way guy to work into our mix. He's under contract for $12M next season, that isn't crazy. He gives us good Vuc insurance after next season too.

[HomoSapien]

I like Olynyk as a general add, but we still wouldn’t have addressed our need of getting a guy who can match up with Giannis and KD. He does provide great Vuc insurance though, which frankly we don’t have enough of.

[MalagaBulls]

I like Olynyk as a general add, but we still wouldn’t have addressed our need of getting a guy who can match up with Giannis and KD. He does provide great Vuc insurance though, which frankly we don’t have enough of.

Vooch insurance = signing Joker.

[cool007]

The guy I am really eyeing is the Raptors' CB25 (Chris Bouscher). He is exactly what we want off the bench as a big. He can also start at PF if need be.

He runs the floor well, he plays defense, blocks shots, quick with good hands, can spread the floor by shooting 3s. So IMO, a great piece to go deep in the playoffs.

[Chi town]

that says we’re under the cap so i think the realgm trade checker may not be the most up to date resource

You are right. It has to be DJJ

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxwm76le

That’s the trade I would make too. Keep Coby and trace PW. This winner Coby would be huge in the playoffs and Grant gives us way more than PW or projects to give for at least two more seasons.

Grant is 27 and turns 28 in March. He expired after next season when Vuc expired and Jokic could be in play. He fits our window perfectly.

[Bulls2021]

Something else to consider is that DJJ is a free agent next year. Packaging him in a deal to match salaries for player(s) that are on the books longer than this year will result in about 10m more on the books next season. Not sure how that impacts things with Zach's upcoming max/supermax.

[Bulls2021]

I like Olynyk as a general add, but we still wouldn’t have addressed our need of getting a guy who can match up with Giannis and KD. He does provide great Vuc insurance though, which frankly we don’t have enough of.

Vooch insurance = signing Joker.

One day brother, one day... AKME will make the dream a reality

[MrSparkle]

OG - Would fit like a glove at PF. But Ujiri wouldn't give him away. Coby/Pat/Troy/Marko (I think Raps say no)

Gary Trent Jr. - Could handle a lot of defensive assignments (inc. Lebron), and it'd tie us further down to small ball, but he does have more scoring ability than Javonte or pretty much any other defensive wing option we have. Also still very young, with a good floor and a little more ceiling. (But like OG, I doubt Ujiri gives him away.)

$5 TPE ideas (PF, backup C):

Craig - (4.8m) - If Pacers move towards blowing it up and saving some money. Not sure if he's worth it, but he did give us some trouble in the paint. Big bodied PF, but not a C.

Muscala (3.5m) - Cheap role-player big with 3-ball with a team option. Not sure OKC needs a TPE, but they also don't need this guy.

Jeff Green (4.5m) - Still has some game. Up there in age and unsure what his defense is like compared to last season. DEN probably wouldn't want to just dump him, but I believe they are just over the luxury tax (with a HUGE bill coming next year as MPJ's massive extension kicks in). So Nuggets might be sellers this deadline (speaking of which JaMychael also has a player option and is probably leaving since Nuggets have Aaron Gordon now, and need to spend whatever they can on wing depth).

Dieng (4m) - Marginal upgrade over Bradley?

Thinking through some team's situations, I feel like Toronto has guys we'd like, but they're probably not interested in helping us contend without getting serious compensation. The Nuggets have their backs against the wall: need some financial relief, need wing depth and scoring help (Coby or Troy would actually address their needs given how thin they are), and they also have their FRP (but I don't think they can trade it). I'd involve Coby if we could get their 1st, but they can't move it.

Troy/Bradley/Marko and cash for the two Greens (giving us a trilogy of Greens) would address PF/C with guys who'd fit our system, while still keeping our wild cards (Pat/Coby/Ayo/Blazers). I'd rather save those after seeing how we fare in the playoffs.

Believe me, I'm pumped for this season... But we do need to remember that we're potentially running into Giannis & friends, Durant/Kyrie/Harden by Round 2, not to mention the Heat and some of the wild cards (haven't exactly X'd the Hawks yet, they have 4 months to figure it out with a LOT of trade pieces). Not to mention the Warriors and Suns. And who knows what Morey/Sixers end up doing with Simmons. I love DEMAR, guy just gifted us the best New Years Eve & Day, but I still remember that he's Demar and not Durant/Giannis. But it'd be very risky and foolish just sending out every young trade asset we have and then falling short before the ECFs. The playoffs are brutal, and 1 bad week or 1 bad match-up can spoil the whole season.

[OldSchoolNoBull]

that says we’re under the cap so i think the realgm trade checker may not be the most up to date resource

You are right. It has to be DJJ

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yxwm76le

It doesn't have to be DJJ. I proposed this same kind of deal here last night. Using the +5M deal for under-the-tax teams trading out <19M, the money would work for your initial deal if Simonovic were added. In my proposal, I had also included the POR pick to entice them to do it without Coby. So

Pat Williams
Troy Brown
Matt Thomas
Marko Simonovic
POR 1st
for
Grant

Or you could try that same deal for Barnes. Either case the other team would have to be able to facilitate a four-for-one deal.

[CBS7]

I hate the Grant suggestions. He's not an especially good rebounder, defender, or inside presence. He doesn't shore up any of our weaknesses or play especially bigger than DJJ. I'd rather roll the dice with Pat.

[MrSparkle]

I hate the Grant suggestions. He's not an especially good rebounder, defender, or inside presence. He doesn't shore up any of our weaknesses or play especially bigger than DJJ. I'd rather roll the dice with Pat.

I like Grant. He's just the type I would've loved to sign low (in DET's shoes), not trade the farm for. IMO the ship sailed. Plus yes; he doesn't fit particularly well IMO. He did a lot of damage for the tank Pistons in the mid-range. That's just begging for trouble on a team led by Demar. His numbers have also plateau'd rather to average starter range, and to top it off, he tore his shooting thumb (and he was not a great shooter to begin with) and has at least a month to go. I'd move Pat and Coby for him, but I don't see why Pistons do it. I'd sooner see Warriors send Wiseman and Kuminga their way (if GS thinks Klay's injuries are 100% behind them and they want to really go for it). He'd fit their system perfectly fine. Curry makes life easy for tweener forwards.

But here, you've gotta be very careful with who you put alongside Vuc (and to a lesser extent, Demar). Small kinks in pairings can have disastrous results. I agree that in a worst outcome, Jerami doesn't address any of the issues (rebounding, interior defense) while further messing up 3P spacing and Vuc's & Demar's efficiency.

[cool007]

Another guy i really like and who would fit in great with us is Grant Williams from Boston Celtics.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

I don’t get the Wood stuff. He’s shown to be a locker room problem.

He isn’t a good defender, isn’t good playing with another big, and isn’t good at the 4. It’s a terrible fit, and will cost more assets than other guys who will fit significantly better.

I’d much rather get a role player at the 4 or make no trades than get Wood.

[Chi town]

I hate the Grant suggestions. He's not an especially good rebounder, defender, or inside presence. He doesn't shore up any of our weaknesses or play especially bigger than DJJ. I'd rather roll the dice with Pat.

I like Grant. He's just the type I would've loved to sign low (in DET's shoes), not trade the farm for. IMO the ship sailed. Plus yes; he doesn't fit particularly well IMO. He did a lot of damage for the tank Pistons in the mid-range. That's just begging for trouble on a team led by Demar. His numbers have also plateau'd rather to average starter range, and to top it off, he tore his shooting thumb (and he was not a great shooter to begin with) and has at least a month to go. I'd move Pat and Coby for him, but I don't see why Pistons do it. I'd sooner see Warriors send Wiseman and Kuminga their way (if GS thinks Klay's injuries are 100% behind them and they want to really go for it). He'd fit their system perfectly fine. Curry makes life easy for tweener forwards.

But here, you've gotta be very careful with who you put alongside Vuc (and to a lesser extent, Demar). Small kinks in pairings can have disastrous results. I agree that in a worst outcome, Jerami doesn't address any of the issues (rebounding, interior defense) while further messing up 3P spacing and Vuc's & Demar's efficiency.

Nah. Grant goes back to what he did for the Nuggets and he can score against and 2nd units. He was mainly a corner 3 player and PnPop player.

Same stuff was said about DDR not fitting. These guys are pros. They figure it out. Great that AK knows Grant well. I trust AK to make the right moves and if none are made that was the right move.

[gobullschi]

I could see AK targeting Lu Dort & Isaiah Roby. Both players would fit in well. OKC loves draft picks

[StunnerKO]

Smith been getting playing time and was bought up months ago cuz he was on the trade block

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