Tank World Order (6.0)

[DelAbbot]

Especially if they think we can tank and retain Scottie. Even when winning we have struggled to retain top talent. Anyone who thinks we can tank and retain Scottie is on that dope.

Barnes aint going to leave because we didn't make the playoffs in his rookie season. We will be in playoffs next season, and each season after that. Barnes will be playing in playoffs for 6 of his min 7 years here.

Just enjoy the ride.

[DelAbbot]

Including winning a championship .
TWO keeps moving the years back. First it's only a one and done year to tank so we can fluke in and get a top end talent....done. Then it's 2 years so we get a running mate for Barnes. Next it's 3 years so we can get some nice role players. Next thing we know it's 7 years and Scottie has become a superstar and is tired of losing and demands out to go to LA.

Then we start the process all over again. It's complete insanity.

Oh look more ridiculous exaggeration!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

How is it exaggeration? It's playing out exactly as we speak.

Can't wait when you tuck your tail between your legs squirming back to TWO

[NBA Sheady]

Especially if they think we can tank and retain Scottie. Even when winning we have struggled to retain top talent. Anyone who thinks we can tank and retain Scottie is on that dope.

Barnes aint going to leave because we didn't make the playoffs in his rookie season. We will be in playoffs next season.

Just enjoy the ride.

How do you tank and then magically make the playoffs the next year?

How many tanking teams have done that in the entire history of the NBA?!?!?!?

This isn't a plan it's a child's fantasy.

[Madhouse]

Especially if they think we can tank and retain Scottie. Even when winning we have struggled to retain top talent. Anyone who thinks we can tank and retain Scottie is on that dope.

Barnes aint going to leave because we didn't make the playoffs in his rookie season. We will be in playoffs next season.

Just enjoy the ride.

he will be here for 8-9 years anyway. so worst case he pulls a KD but then again OKC should have won a title with their 2-3 year tank. And if Klay Thompson doesn't drill 50 triples in that one playoff game, he probably is still there lol.

[DelAbbot]

Especially if they think we can tank and retain Scottie. Even when winning we have struggled to retain top talent. Anyone who thinks we can tank and retain Scottie is on that dope.

Barnes aint going to leave because we didn't make the playoffs in his rookie season. We will be in playoffs next season.

Just enjoy the ride.

How do you tank and then magically make the playoffs the next year?

This isn't a plan it's a child's fantasy.

We tanked in Tampa to get Barnes - as he improves, along with OG, FVV, and PS, PA, we will become better and get into playoffs next season.

Now apply the above statement for this year - we get another lottery level talent to add to that core.

Next season, We build a better bench and having all that young talent organically improve another year. We will definitely be in the playoffs (low seeding) next season. After that, we continue to organically grow from player improvements, and move up to higher seed playoffs.

[will]

Barnes aint going to leave because we didn't make the playoffs in his rookie season. We will be in playoffs next season.

Just enjoy the ride.

How do you tank and then magically make the playoffs the next year?

This isn't a plan it's a child's fantasy.

We tanked in Tampa to get Barnes - as he improves, along with OG, FVV, and PS, PA, we will become better and get into playoffs next season.

Now apply the above statement for this year - we get another lottery level talent to add to that core.

Next season, We build a better bench and having all that young talent organically improve another year. We will definitely be in the playoffs (low seeding) next season. After that, we continue to organically grow from player improvements, and move up to higher seed playoffs.

Is it also a fantasy to think:

A) The Raptors go on this magical playoff run beyond the second round?
B) The Raptors draft a player outside of the lottery completely/low end lottery and that player becomes elite as Pascal and Senior hit their prime?

[NBA Sheady]

You have your opinion. I have my opinion.

Keep it moving, playboy.

Or set up another separate thread.

He is so desperate for anyone to agree with him, it's funny.

I am desperately just trying to help keep this tWo thread on topic.

Perhaps you can explain the parts of the plan where Barnes doesn't leave to go to a winning team?

[PhilBlackson]

Including winning a championship .
TWO keeps moving the years back. First it's only a one and done year to tank so we can fluke in and get a top end talent....done. Then it's 2 years so we get a running mate for Barnes. Next it's 3 years so we can get some nice role players. Next thing we know it's 7 years and Scottie has become a superstar and is tired of losing and demands out to go to LA.

Then we start the process all over again. It's complete insanity.

Oh look more ridiculous exaggeration!

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

How is it exaggeration? It's playing out exactly as we speak.

Yes people are saying to tAnK FoR ScOttIe'S EnTirE TiMe hEre.

Durrrppp please stop

[NBA Sheady]

Barnes aint going to leave because we didn't make the playoffs in his rookie season. We will be in playoffs next season.

Just enjoy the ride.

How do you tank and then magically make the playoffs the next year?

This isn't a plan it's a child's fantasy.

We tanked in Tampa to get Barnes - as he improves, along with OG, FVV, and PS, PA, we will become better and get into playoffs next season.

Now apply the above statement for this year - we get another lottery level talent to add to that core.

Next season, We build a better bench and having all that young talent organically improve another year. We will definitely be in the playoffs (low seeding) next season. After that, we continue to organically grow from player improvements, and move up to higher seed playoffs.

This is not a plan but I get it. Thanks. That is something that at least could potentially happen.

[DelAbbot]

How do you tank and then magically make the playoffs the next year?

This isn't a plan it's a child's fantasy.

We tanked in Tampa to get Barnes - as he improves, along with OG, FVV, and PS, PA, we will become better and get into playoffs next season.

Now apply the above statement for this year - we get another lottery level talent to add to that core.

Next season, We build a better bench and having all that young talent organically improve another year. We will definitely be in the playoffs (low seeding) next season. After that, we continue to organically grow from player improvements, and move up to higher seed playoffs.

Is it also a fantasy to think:

A) The Raptors go on this magical playoff run beyond the second round?
B) The Raptors draft a player outside of the lottery completely/low end lottery and that player becomes elite as Pascal and Senior hit their prime?

A) If IMO Raptors could go beyond the 1st round this year, I wouldn't be on TWO.
B) That could happen but I think we have better the chances of hitting an elite player higher in the lottery, in this final season which we still could tank. Next season and beyond, it will be out of the question (unless something goes wrong horribly wrt health) as our young core grows.

[DelAbbot]

How do you tank and then magically make the playoffs the next year?

This isn't a plan it's a child's fantasy.

We tanked in Tampa to get Barnes - as he improves, along with OG, FVV, and PS, PA, we will become better and get into playoffs next season.

Now apply the above statement for this year - we get another lottery level talent to add to that core.

Next season, We build a better bench and having all that young talent organically improve another year. We will definitely be in the playoffs (low seeding) next season. After that, we continue to organically grow from player improvements, and move up to higher seed playoffs.

This is not a plan but I get it. Thanks. That is something that at least could potentially happen.

What plan do you have in mind as an alternative?

[NBA Sheady]

Anyone know how to block another poster?

Or can my posts be blocked so that another poster does not see them?

We used to have a proper ignore list feature. You could block someone and they literally could not see your posts, could not quote you.

[NBA Sheady]

We tanked in Tampa to get Barnes - as he improves, along with OG, FVV, and PS, PA, we will become better and get into playoffs next season.

Now apply the above statement for this year - we get another lottery level talent to add to that core.

Next season, We build a better bench and having all that young talent organically improve another year. We will definitely be in the playoffs (low seeding) next season. After that, we continue to organically grow from player improvements, and move up to higher seed playoffs.

This is not a plan but I get it. Thanks. That is something that at least could potentially happen.

What plan do you have in mind as an alternative?

I'm not the one advocating for tanking. I'm not the one promoting an extreme approach.

People need to realize that even 4 years of making the playoffs and winning is (historically) still not enough to retain Barnes.

[will]

He is so desperate for anyone to agree with him, it's funny.

I am desperately just trying to help keep this tWo thread on topic.

Perhaps you can explain the parts of the plan where Barnes doesn't leave to go to a winning team?

Be tough to do that before he becomes a free agent

[will]

Anyone know how to block another poster?

Or can my posts be blocked so that another poster does not see them?

We used to have a proper ignore list feature. You could block someone and they literally could not see your posts, could not quote you.

I remember that feature, and was looking for it.

Got it sorted out now, thankfully. Love going back and forth, don't enjoy things when it gets personal. Geezus Christ, it's an internet message board.

[NBA Sheady]

I am desperately just trying to help keep this tWo thread on topic.

Perhaps you can explain the parts of the plan where Barnes doesn't leave to go to a winning team?

Be tough to do that before he becomes a free agent

You know exactly what I mean.

This is what I'm talking about re: TWO you guys don't have any sort of plan or logic that includes retaining the star the tankers have been screaming about here for 18 years.

[DelAbbot]

This is not a plan but I get it. Thanks. That is something that at least could potentially happen.

What plan do you have in mind as an alternative?

I'm not the one advocating for tanking. I'm not the one promoting an extreme approach.

People need to realize that even 4 years of making the playoffs and winning is (historically) still not enough to retain Barnes.

You are forgetting one big criterion in all these:

"We are here to win a championship"

Watch on YouTube

That means we need a core that offers a high enough ceiling to reach that level of competing for championships. Not just a core of "good enough to make playoffs".

Is the current core (Barnes+OG+FVV+PS+PA) enough for competing for championship? I think it's not likely, but another year of asset accumulation through the draft (hence the hope to tank for higher draft slot) will boost that chance a lot.

[NBA Sheady]

What plan do you have in mind as an alternative?

I'm not the one advocating for tanking. I'm not the one promoting an extreme approach.

People need to realize that even 4 years of making the playoffs and winning is (historically) still not enough to retain Barnes.

You are forgetting one big criterion in all these:

"We are here to win a championship"

Watch on YouTube

That means we need a core that offers a high enough ceiling to reach that level of competing for championships. Not just a core of "good enough to make playoffs".

Is the current core (Barnes+OG+FVV+PS+PA) enough for competing for championship? I think it's not likely, and another year of asset accumulation through the draft (hence the hope to tank for higher draft slot) will boost that chance a lot.

Right now my entire discussion is based on: how can you tank and retain Barnes?

So far the answers have been: "Organic Growth".

That's it. That's all. Hopium.

[will]

Perhaps you can explain the parts of the plan where Barnes doesn't leave to go to a winning team?

Be tough to do that before he becomes a free agent

You know exactly what I mean.

This is what I'm talking about re: TWO you guys don't have any sort of plan or logic that includes retaining the star the tankers have been screaming about here for 18 years.

I am making the assumption that Barnes will resign long term, and combined with the high lotto pick(s) and Senior and/or Pascal OR wheatever they potentially yield in a trade, that could be a bigger impact.

[will]

What plan do you have in mind as an alternative?

I'm not the one advocating for tanking. I'm not the one promoting an extreme approach.

People need to realize that even 4 years of making the playoffs and winning is (historically) still not enough to retain Barnes.

You are forgetting one big criterion in all these:

"We are here to win a championship"

Watch on YouTube

That means we need a core that offers a high enough ceiling to reach that level of competing for championships. Not just a core of "good enough to make playoffs".

Is the current core (Barnes+OG+FVV+PS+PA) enough for competing for championship? I think it's not likely, but another year of asset accumulation through the draft (hence the hope to tank for higher draft slot) will boost that chance a lot.

Masai talking that cloth talk