Tank World Order (6.0)

[720]

sadly a lot of this has to do with bantons regression, i was excited like the rest of us for him but it was clear the man was a black hole for scotties time on the ball. and as good as he looked early it was extremely stupid to have him come in and take that role when scottie had the opportunity presented

I never understood Nurse just giving the ball to Banton and have Barnes sitting in the corner.

I mean, I love the guy and he's an interesting prospect but Barnes is much father along with his development and should have been getting those chances over Banton.

If this were a regular non covid season Banton would be in the G league for most of the year.

the thing is, its not nurse directing this. nurse lets the guys do what they do. bonton demanded the ball and scottie is scottie, he wont. which is why banton had the ball most of the time. nurse should of directed his young guys but he doesnt.

While I think you're right that Nurse's equal opportunity approach means Scottie should be more assertive on his own, I personally think Nurse or someone on the staff did tell Barnes to take a more leadership role the past few games where he has had extended time as the primary ball handler. It didn't look like he was deferring to Siakam or Gary.

[PhilBlackson]

The dream is over. Bring on the Bucks in the playoffs. We'll probably lose the series, but it'll be close.

For the 4 games that it lasts lol

#moralWsactualLs

Our defence will give Giannis/Bud fits again. I think a series would go 6 or 7 games.

All jokes aside, I honestly don't think it will.

Teams need to wall up on Giannis or he just bullies guys around the rim. Giannis is bigger than anyone on the roster. The series changed when Kawhi used his strength and defensive instincts to change how he was driving and guys like Serge and more specifically Marc who is too big to move. OG might give a decent fight but he'll likely be primarily matched up against Middleton and it doesn't matter if its Pascal, Boucher or Barnes...they are all too small that we're gonna be forced to collapse and Middleton has now adjusted to taken over games late when he wasn't back when we played him. Plus we simply don't have the depth to match them.

[720]

For the 4 games that it lasts lol

#moralWsactualLs

Our defence will give Giannis/Bud fits again. I think a series would go 6 or 7 games.

All jokes aside, I honestly don't think it will.

Teams need to wall up on Giannis or he just bullies guys around the rim. Giannis is bigger than anyone on the roster. The series changed when Kawhi used his strength and defensive instincts to change how he was driving and guys like Serge and more specifically Marc who is too big to move. OG might give a decent fight but he'll likely be primarily matched up against Middleton and it doesn't matter if its Pascal, Boucher or Barnes...they are all too small that we're gonna be forced to collapse and Middleton has now adjusted to taken over games late when he wasn't back when we played him. Plus we simply don't have the depth to match them.

Yeah, Gasol and Ibaka played a big role in our wall scheme (Kawhi obviously being the linchpin). It won't be the same. It would be a 4 maybe 5 game series. I guess it's good for "winning culture".

[pingpongrac]

5 of the 7 last teams we faced either missed major contributors to covid or other reasons (injuries or in the warriors case just rest). Of those 5 we won 4 (4 if the Spurs game ends with a win which looks likely). 4 wins can be all the difference between getting a difference maker or just a meh player in the draft. The 4 wins also aren't indicative of the team's actual place in the conference or their capabilities in the playoffs (aka Fake Wins lol). Nature of a covid season.

Last 4 wins over teams temporarily missing
SAS: Dejounte Murray
NYK: Randle, Kemba, Rose
LAC: Paul George, Zubac
GSW: Curry, Draymond, Wiggins

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

[720]

5 of the 7 last teams we faced either missed major contributors to covid or other reasons (injuries or in the warriors case just rest). Of those 5 we won 4 (4 if the Spurs game ends with a win which looks likely). 4 wins can be all the difference between getting a difference maker or just a meh player in the draft. The 4 wins also aren't indicative of the team's actual place in the conference or their capabilities in the playoffs (aka Fake Wins lol). Nature of a covid season.

Last 4 wins over teams temporarily missing
SAS: Dejounte Murray
NYK: Randle, Kemba, Rose
LAC: Paul George, Zubac
GSW: Curry, Draymond, Wiggins

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

[DelAbbot]

For the 4 games that it lasts lol

#moralWsactualLs

Our defence will give Giannis/Bud fits again. I think a series would go 6 or 7 games.

All jokes aside, I honestly don't think it will.

Raps in 4 only talks in hyperbole. He is much more tolerable when on TWO.

[DelAbbot]

Last 4 wins over teams temporarily missing
SAS: Dejounte Murray
NYK: Randle, Kemba, Rose
LAC: Paul George, Zubac
GSW: Curry, Draymond, Wiggins

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

I specifically avoid listing role players like Lonnie Walker, Robinson, Batum, etc. and he lists Yuta

[Los_29]

Last 4 wins over teams temporarily missing
SAS: Dejounte Murray
NYK: Randle, Kemba, Rose
LAC: Paul George, Zubac
GSW: Curry, Draymond, Wiggins

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

[720]

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

I specifically avoid listing role players like Lonnie Walker, Robinson, Batum, etc. and he lists Yuta

It's like when they brought up the fact that the Nets lost to the injury plagued Clippers but we didn't. Like those two facts somehow mean something greater. When in reality they have nothing to do with each other. lol are the Nets still better than us? Yes? Then okay pointless argument then.

[pingpongrac]

Last 4 wins over teams temporarily missing
SAS: Dejounte Murray
NYK: Randle, Kemba, Rose
LAC: Paul George, Zubac
GSW: Curry, Draymond, Wiggins

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

We lost to a close one to Memphis days after we had just beat them with GTJ (and Morant for them) playing. Having OG would have made a difference, especially in a game where JJJ had Achiuwa and Siakam in serious foul trouble (they both played 30 minutes and racked up 11 combined fouls). We lost OKC by 1 point at the buzzer in a game where our bench shot 4/15. We also lost a close one to the Sixers despite being down 3 starters and both of Birch and Achiuwa.

Having a healthy lineup in those 3 games especially (in addition to the Cavs game) could have easily swung our record 4 wins in the other direction. Evens things out from these fake wins lately.

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[sbsat]

Last 4 wins over teams temporarily missing
SAS: Dejounte Murray
NYK: Randle, Kemba, Rose
LAC: Paul George, Zubac
GSW: Curry, Draymond, Wiggins

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

You respond to facts with conjecture.

[NinjaBro]

im on two but i knew from early on we weren't getting a high pick unless we get lucky. we gonna hover around 500 playing for a play in. we dont have the excuse of last year. its just funny seeing some people act as if we've accomplished something with these 3 wins. i dont understand really.

the thing i hope for out of this season is scottie handling the ball

That's been the one positive out of these fake wins lately. Looks like Nurse is going to start staggering Fred and Barnes minutes even more. Barnes getting extended point guard duty has been a treat to watch.

Wow! You were able to derive some pleasure from a "fake win"? There may still be some hope for you 720. Unfortunately for DelAbott, he's too far gone to the deep end.

[Los_29]

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

You respond to facts with conjecture.

That's his MO.

[720]

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

We lost to a close one to Memphis days after we had just beat them with GTJ (and Morant for them) playing. Having OG would have made a difference, especially in a game where JJJ had Achiuwa and Siakam in serious foul trouble (they both played 30 minutes and racked up 11 combined fouls). We lost OKC by 1 point at the buzzer in a game where our bench shot 4/15. We also lost a close one to the Sixers despite being down 3 starters and both of Birch and Achiuwa.

Having a healthy lineup in those 3 games especially (in addition to the Cavs game) could have easily swung our record 4 wins in the other direction. Evens things out from these fake wins lately.

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Morant didn't play the second time and we lost. So your logic fails off that one point alone. You can't just plant a player in a hypothetical. If you think I'm doing the same thing as you I'm not. You have to take a look at both teams as a whole and then make your point.

Both teams healthy the Celtics, Jazz, Nets, Cavs, Sixers would beat us. They're better teams with more top end talent.

[DelAbbot]

im on two but i knew from early on we weren't getting a high pick unless we get lucky. we gonna hover around 500 playing for a play in. we dont have the excuse of last year. its just funny seeing some people act as if we've accomplished something with these 3 wins. i dont understand really.

the thing i hope for out of this season is scottie handling the ball

That's been the one positive out of these fake wins lately. Looks like Nurse is going to start staggering Fred and Barnes minutes even more. Barnes getting extended point guard duty has been a treat to watch.

Wow! You were able to derive some pleasure from a "fake win"? There may still be some hope for you 720. Unfortunately for DelAbott, he's too far gone to the deep end.

You little...

[720]

That's been the one positive out of these fake wins lately. Looks like Nurse is going to start staggering Fred and Barnes minutes even more. Barnes getting extended point guard duty has been a treat to watch.

Wow! You were able to derive some pleasure from a "fake win"? There may still be some hope for you 720. Unfortunately for DelAbott, he's too far gone to the deep end.

You little...

This is the most active NinjaBro has been in years. Don't disappear on us when they start losing bro!

[pingpongrac]

Let's look at who we have been missing in our most recent losses this year.

UTA: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa, Yuta)
GSW: OG (and Yuta)
IND: OG (and Birch, Yuta)
BOS: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
MEM: OG, GTJ (and Birch)
OKC: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
BKN: OG (and Birch, Achiuwa)
CLE: FVV, Siakam, OG, Scottie, GTJ (and Birch, Achiuwa)
PHI: FVV, OG, Scottie (and Birch, Achiuwa)

And of course our first 4 losses came without Siakam too. None of those were fake losses though. What team in the league can't overcome missing one of their top 3 players for a month straight and their entire C rotation for most of that time too? Don't even get me started with the Cavs and Sixers games. Our 3rd stringers and 10-day hardship signees should have easily been able to handle those teams.

The only case you have is the Cleveland game. every other game we probably lose even with OG and the role players.

I specifically avoid listing role players like Lonnie Walker, Robinson, Batum, etc. and he lists Yuta

If you notice, I put those role players in brackets so that they would be separate. The point still stands that we were without OG (one of our top players) for all of our recent losses and at least one of FVV/GTJ for 4 of those 9 losses. We were missing 3 or 4 of our top 7 players for 6 weeks and we went 7-9 in that span. Now we've reeled off 3 easy wins against undermanned teams. Things are starting to even out for us at least.

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[DelAbbot]

Wow! You were able to derive some pleasure from a "fake win"? There may still be some hope for you 720. Unfortunately for DelAbott, he's too far gone to the deep end.

You little...

This is the most active NinjaBro has been in years. Don't disappear on us when they start losing bro!

I could never hate on the NinjaBro since he shared that love story from his preschool days.

[720]

You little...

This is the most active NinjaBro has been in years. Don't disappear on us when they start losing bro!

I could never hate on the NinjaBro since he shared that love story from his preschool days.

Me too.

[Madhouse]

Wow! You were able to derive some pleasure from a "fake win"? There may still be some hope for you 720. Unfortunately for DelAbott, he's too far gone to the deep end.

You little...

This is the most active NinjaBro has been in years. Don't disappear on us when they start losing bro!

This thread is so hostile