Last Train to Celticsville Trade Thread

[CelticFaninLBC]

Think you roll in a trade for someone like Jerami Grant with the C's paying the price for him.

BOS: Collins
ATL: Grant, Smart, Grant Williams
DET: Gallinari, Nesmith, 1st from Boston

C's get their 3rd banana, ATL gets defense, Detroit cash in on Jerami.

Good trade for Atlanta and Boston. Can't see Detroit wanting Gallo, who is guaranteed $5m next year. Maybe something like...

BOS - Collins
ATL: Grant & Smart
DET: Jalen Johnson, Nesmith, BOS FRP, LouWill & Bruno

Collins unhappy being second banana to tre think he is going to like being 3rd banana?

Also cannot expect schroder to be the starting pg with that lineup.

Bad trade that does not help the team

He can hopefully get more than 12 fga's per game in Boston. Agree Schroder's a poor fit.

[BostonCouchGM]

Jaylen for Wiggins, Wiseman AND Kuminga? I’d do it and keep all three - Kuminga is really good, Wiseman could be, only risk with Wiggins is that he regresses outside Golden State. Udoka doesn’t seem fit for developing young players, but..

maybe GSW does it for Wiggins and ONE of those young guys but not both unless BOS throws in their 1st.

Wiggins (26 y/o)
19-4-2 41% from three on 14 FGA and above average defender with no injury concerns

Brown (25 y/o)
24-6-3 36% from three on 19 FGA seemingly always injured and no longer an above average defender

[Andrew McCeltic]

You’d have to be sold on Collins’ fit (and giving him the shots he wants), but for Smart/Nesmith/1st (protected?).. that’s good value, and if he does fit, you’re set at 4 positions..

Delon/Schroeder/Pritchard
Jaylen/Romeo
Tatum/Josh
Collins/Grant
Rob/Al/Enes

Sometimes it’s harder to get that last piece , no idea the answer at the point (any MLE level guards headed to free agency other than Schroeder?), but you have a much better “core four.”

[Bill Lumbergh]

How do you know that?

Because if they had, Schroder would be gone. Stevens nay be a coward, but he isn't stupid.

Haha, wtf are you talking about, he's a "coward"?

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[Larry_Russell]

http://www.82games.com/2122/21BOS11.HTM

Year after year data suggests that tatum is better at pf than sf.

Why do some even consider keeping him at sf?

[BK_2020]

http://www.82games.com/2122/21BOS11.HTM

Year after year data suggests that tatum is better at pf than sf.

Why do some even consider keeping him at sf?

Good news, Larry_Russell. Adam Silvers just passed a new law that allows any 5 players on a team to dribble the ball, shoot it, pass it, and go wherever they want no matter what position they officially have. Going forward, it will no longer matter whether Tatum is a SF or a PF thanks to this reform.

[Fencer reregistered]

http://www.82games.com/2122/21BOS11.HTM

Year after year data suggests that tatum is better at pf than sf.

Why do some even consider keeping him at sf?

Reasons not to play Tatum at SF:
-- Fear that he'll get worn down by bigger guys.
-- Giannis.
-- Umm, I'm running out of ideas ...

[Andrew McCeltic]

Because if they had, Schroder would be gone. Stevens nay be a coward, but he isn't stupid.

Haha, wtf are you talking about, he's a "coward"?

It's the same type of obnoxious garbage he's been posting for years; Ainge was not only stupid, but a coward if he didn't draft the guy he droned on about for months on end (and was spectacularly wrong about, Bender). Posting style is... frequently wrong, but never in doubt. This is nothing new.

I loved Bender too, apart from the risk with his frame .. I know his whole vibe I just don’t know what the ‘coward’ reasoning is - hasn’t blown up the roster yesterday?

[Fencer reregistered]

Wrong thread, but actually it also fits here:

Enes and Dennis in at the same time makes sense in Udoka's head ... why?

[Andrew McCeltic]

Jaylen for Wiggins, Wiseman AND Kuminga? I’d do it and keep all three - Kuminga is really good, Wiseman could be, only risk with Wiggins is that he regresses outside Golden State. Udoka doesn’t seem fit for developing young players, but..

maybe GSW does it for Wiggins and ONE of those young guys but not both unless BOS throws in their 1st.

Wiggins (26 y/o)
19-4-2 41% from three on 14 FGA and above average defender with no injury concerns

Brown (25 y/o)
24-6-3 36% from three on 19 FGA seemingly always injured and no longer an above average defender

Maybe. I’d only do it for Wiseman/Kuminga. Kind of a grey area for everyone’s value right now - rumors have had GS high and down on Wiseman, Kuminga is raw, Jaylen is either overrated or underrated..

Wiggins is a good useful player now, I just don’t know if he’d turn back into a pumpkin outside that org.

[Fencer reregistered]

Wrong thread.

[Fencer reregistered]

Wrong thread.

[Larry_Russell]

http://www.82games.com/2122/21BOS11.HTM

Year after year data suggests that tatum is better at pf than sf.

Why do some even consider keeping him at sf?

Good news, Larry_Russell. Adam Silvers just passed a new law that allows any 5 players on a team to dribble the ball, shoot it, pass it, and go wherever they want no matter what position they officially have. Going forward, it will no longer matter whether Tatum is a SF or a PF thanks to this reform.

The nba is not position less

[Larry_Russell]

http://www.82games.com/2122/21BOS11.HTM

Year after year data suggests that tatum is better at pf than sf.

Why do some even consider keeping him at sf?

Reasons not to play Tatum at SF:
-- Fear that he'll get worn down by bigger guys.
-- Giannis.
-- Umm, I'm running out of ideas ...

He is defended far better by smaller guys and shoots a worse percentage

He doesnt beet smaller defenders off the dribble and instead settles for taking midrange jumpers.

There really is no power forward in the nba tbag wpuld "wear" tatum down

[BK_2020]

Tatum gets defended by the opposing team's best wing defender. They are not going to mechanically match "PF" with "PF" contrary to what you apparently believe.

[Larry_Russell]

Tatum gets defended by the opposing team's best wing defender. They are not going to mechanically match "PF" with "PF" contrary to what you apparently believe.

Best wing defender is a point guard they are not defending tatum.

Contrary to the tripe you post.

[BK_2020]

Tatum gets defended by the opposing team's best wing defender. They are not going to mechanically match "PF" with "PF" contrary to what you apparently believe.

Best wing defender is a point guard they are not defending tatum.

Contrary to the tripe you post.

Here's a brilliant idea. Why not make Tatum a 5, and put Enes at 1. That way Tatum gets guarded by opposing teams' centers whom he can easily beat off the dribble for free buckets. Also Enes guarded by point guards will be able to dominate inside and get layups every time.
I think I just solved basketball.

[Jaqua92]

I can't imagine you get Collins for smart at all. I think you would probably need to add a pic and probably another player as well

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Think you roll in a trade for someone like Jerami Grant with the C's paying the price for him.

BOS: Collins
ATL: Grant, Smart, Grant Williams
DET: Gallinari, Nesmith, 1st from Boston

C's get their 3rd banana, ATL gets defense, Detroit cash in on Jerami.

Good trade for Atlanta and Boston. Can't see Detroit wanting Gallo, who is guaranteed $5m next year. Maybe something like...

BOS - Collins
ATL: Grant & Smart
DET: Jalen Johnson, Nesmith, BOS FRP, LouWill & Bruno

This is a terrible trade for Atlanta. You lose a fringe all star for Marcus freaking Smart.

Being part of a "big 3" could be more enticing than being Trae's #2.

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[Larry_Russell]

Tatum gets defended by the opposing team's best wing defender. They are not going to mechanically match "PF" with "PF" contrary to what you apparently believe.

Best wing defender is a point guard they are not defending tatum.

Contrary to the tripe you post.

Here's a brilliant idea. Why not make Tatum a 5, and put Enes at 1. That way Tatum gets guarded by opposing teams' centers whom he can easily beat off the dribble for free buckets. Also Enes guarded by point guards will be able to dominate inside and get layups every time.
I think I just solved basketball.

Well, thanks for proving you are not worth respomding too.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Think you roll in a trade for someone like Jerami Grant with the C's paying the price for him.

BOS: Collins
ATL: Grant, Smart, Grant Williams
DET: Gallinari, Nesmith, 1st from Boston

C's get their 3rd banana, ATL gets defense, Detroit cash in on Jerami.

Good trade for Atlanta and Boston. Can't see Detroit wanting Gallo, who is guaranteed $5m next year. Maybe something like...

BOS - Collins
ATL: Grant & Smart
DET: Jalen Johnson, Nesmith, BOS FRP, LouWill & Bruno

This is a terrible trade for Atlanta. You lose a fringe all star for Marcus freaking Smart.

Being part of a "big 3" could be more enticing than being Trae's #2.

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Atlanta's getting Jerami Grant.. he's arguably an upgrade over Collins, so the rest of the deal is Jalen Johnson/LouWill for Smart..