LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

[zimpy27]

But he can shoot this bad during a series and kill us

Don't see a savior coming

This team is way too up and down

I guess we have to pray we can find a Russ move

Regardless, who will beat a healthy Nets team if Kyrie is playing

Just too much firepower for us

I mean Lakers need to work with him to help him pick his spots better. He seems adaptable. More than people give him credit.
But yeah, he could kill a series if he gets in his head like this. Lakers are a good matchup for Nets. More concerned about West teams.

Don't see a Westbrook trade tbh. Horford+Smart is the very best they can get and I think that's worth doing, anything less and it's probably not worth doing. I also don't think he's the main problem (my analysis suggests Lakers small size and rebounding as biggest problems).

As I said, he's had the best +/- of the starters in 3 of the last 4 games since he stopped making TOs. His effort on disrupting rebounds and defense have picked up. I think he's more valuable to Lakers than other teams. Unless you can get a good haul it's best to keep him.

? Where is this coming from? No he doesn't literally seems to be the least adaptable star of all time.

He has changed quite a bit the last few years, 4 teams, and each has asked him to play a little differently.

Even this season alone he's clearly changed a few times.

[Mos_Heat]

I thought everyone knew that you can't play offensively mediocre center with Westbrook in the line up. It's either play Dwight and your offense will be in low 20s, or play Lebron at 5 and your defense will be in low 20s

[Mos_Heat]

On a non-Westbrook front, Ariza looks baaaaaaaad

[Slava]

On a non-Westbrook front, Ariza looks baaaaaaaad

I never understood why anyone was even counting on him being a major contributor and using his presence as an argument in favor of small line ups. He's been cooked for two seasons.

[Slava]

I mean Lakers need to work with him to help him pick his spots better. He seems adaptable. More than people give him credit.
But yeah, he could kill a series if he gets in his head like this. Lakers are a good matchup for Nets. More concerned about West teams.

Don't see a Westbrook trade tbh. Horford+Smart is the very best they can get and I think that's worth doing, anything less and it's probably not worth doing. I also don't think he's the main problem (my analysis suggests Lakers small size and rebounding as biggest problems).

As I said, he's had the best +/- of the starters in 3 of the last 4 games since he stopped making TOs. His effort on disrupting rebounds and defense have picked up. I think he's more valuable to Lakers than other teams. Unless you can get a good haul it's best to keep him.

? Where is this coming from? No he doesn't literally seems to be the least adaptable star of all time.

He has changed quite a bit the last few years, 4 teams, and each has asked him to play a little differently.

Even this season alone he's clearly changed a few times.

He can try to be adaptable but not beyond a narrow scope as he isn't suddenly going to acquire skills he never had. His entire game is built on quick attacks, rebounding and running, simple pick and roll basketball with a center that can dive to the basket. When he doesn't have that, team oriented offense and attention to detail on defense are concepts that are completely alien to him. Even when Morey tried to extract water out of this rock, he based the team's identity on isolation ball with Russ & Harden taking turns.

[McBubbles]

I mean Lakers need to work with him to help him pick his spots better. He seems adaptable. More than people give him credit.
But yeah, he could kill a series if he gets in his head like this. Lakers are a good matchup for Nets. More concerned about West teams.

Don't see a Westbrook trade tbh. Horford+Smart is the very best they can get and I think that's worth doing, anything less and it's probably not worth doing. I also don't think he's the main problem (my analysis suggests Lakers small size and rebounding as biggest problems).

As I said, he's had the best +/- of the starters in 3 of the last 4 games since he stopped making TOs. His effort on disrupting rebounds and defense have picked up. I think he's more valuable to Lakers than other teams. Unless you can get a good haul it's best to keep him.

? Where is this coming from? No he doesn't literally seems to be the least adaptable star of all time.

He has changed quite a bit the last few years, 4 teams, and each has asked him to play a little differently.

Even this season alone he's clearly changed a few times.

Changing your game doesn't make you adaptable. Changing your game and being GOOD makes you adaptable lmao. So Westbrook changing his game, a tiny bit and still sucking ass doesn't mean he's adaptable.

Hell, in 2020 the team had to trade it's best defensive player an rebounder in Capella and compromise its two way configuration just to fit Westbrook in and make sure he didn't suck. Again, that's the opposite of being adaptable. That's super inflexible.

Side note, are you as glass half full in real life as you are on this board? Every single time I see you post something you're always looking on the bright side, finding the silver linings and the best case scenarios, it's very endearing

[Fadeaway_J]

? Where is this coming from? No he doesn't literally seems to be the least adaptable star of all time.

He has changed quite a bit the last few years, 4 teams, and each has asked him to play a little differently.

Even this season alone he's clearly changed a few times.

He can try to be adaptable but not beyond a narrow scope as he isn't suddenly going to acquire skills he never had. His entire game is built on quick attacks, rebounding and running, simple pick and roll basketball with a center that can dive to the basket. When he doesn't have that, team oriented offense and attention to detail on defense are concepts that are completely alien to him. Even when Morey tried to extract water out of this rock, he based the team's identity on isolation ball with Russ & Harden taking turns.

Exactly, we're not talking about some young prospect here. He's been playing this undisciplined, stats-driven style pretty much his entire career, and racked up plenty of accolades and plaudits while doing so. At this point he couldn't change his approach even if he could conceptualise the reasons he needs to do so.

[colts18]

Sidetrack from the Westbrook conversation, I saw that LeBron was credited with 0 steals last night. I saw him strip down Bagley in the 4th and save a ball from out of bounds yet he didn't get credited with a steal for either play.

[thebigbird]

This team just sucks. I wholeheartedly believe they’d be better off if they just cut Westbrook once Nunn is healthy. Westbrook just kills everything he touches.

[Greyhound]

Sidetrack from the Westbrook conversation, I saw that LeBron was credited with 0 steals last night. I saw him strip down Bagley in the 4th and save a ball from out of bounds yet he didn't get credited with a steal for either play.

I think they credited that strip on Bagley as his lone block.

[MisterHibachi]

Read on Twitter

Lakers Trade offer: Lakers receive Jerami Grant, Pistons receive Talen Horton-Tucker, Kendrick Nunn, Kent Bazemore and a 2027 first-round pick

Trail Blazers Trade offer: Portland receives Jerami Grant, Detroit receives Norman Powell and Ben McLemore

Wizards Trade offer: Washington receives Jerami Grant, Pistons receive Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Thomas Bryant, 2025 lottery-protected first-round pick (or two years after a draft-pick-owed commitment to OKC is settled, whichever occurs first)

Knicks Trade offer: New York receives Jerami Grant, Detroit receives Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel, Obi Toppin, NYK 2022 first-round pick (top-10 protected)

Lakers offer looks pretty competitive.

[GSP]

Read on Twitter

Lakers Trade offer: Lakers receive Jerami Grant, Pistons receive Talen Horton-Tucker, Kendrick Nunn, Kent Bazemore and a 2027 first-round pick

Trail Blazers Trade offer: Portland receives Jerami Grant, Detroit receives Norman Powell and Ben McLemore

Wizards Trade offer: Washington receives Jerami Grant, Pistons receive Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Thomas Bryant, 2025 lottery-protected first-round pick (or two years after a draft-pick-owed commitment to OKC is settled, whichever occurs first)

Knicks Trade offer: New York receives Jerami Grant, Detroit receives Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel, Obi Toppin, NYK 2022 first-round pick (top-10 protected)

Lakers offer looks pretty competitive.

Why would they want Tht when they have Cade tho? Even outside the skillset clash I don't think he's sought after

[trickshot]

Russ isn't the biggest problem IMO but......

Watch on YouTube

These types of momentum breaking, piss poor decision making and horrible management have defined his career specially in playoffs. It's plays stretches like these that you always remembered even if he had a good game. 2 possession game with 35 secs left in quarter and he singlehandedly causes a Kings 5-0 run to blow the lead to 11.

Defense is the biggest problem but even if it wasn't a disaster you'd still have to win games in spite of him. The possession in that clip had a lineup where the 2 way potential wasn't too bad relative to the roster but he still singlehandedly manufactured a 5 point swing the other way. That quality of game management was so bad Lakers would on paper have been better off racking 2 shotclock violations and skipping to the 4th. Think about how bad point guard play must be to be worse than consecutive shot clock violations.

These things aren't always in a player's stats. There was no reason to give the Kings 2 high quality possessions and it's an example of Lakers own high pace working against them thanks to godawful game management from yours truly.

[Baski]

But he can shoot this bad during a series and kill us

Don't see a savior coming

This team is way too up and down

I guess we have to pray we can find a Russ move

Regardless, who will beat a healthy Nets team if Kyrie is playing

Just too much firepower for us

I mean Lakers need to work with him to help him pick his spots better. He seems adaptable. More than people give him credit.
But yeah, he could kill a series if he gets in his head like this. Lakers are a good matchup for Nets. More concerned about West teams.

Don't see a Westbrook trade tbh. Horford+Smart is the very best they can get and I think that's worth doing, anything less and it's probably not worth doing. I also don't think he's the main problem (my analysis suggests Lakers small size and rebounding as biggest problems).

As I said, he's had the best +/- of the starters in 3 of the last 4 games since he stopped making TOs. His effort on disrupting rebounds and defense have picked up. I think he's more valuable to Lakers than other teams. Unless you can get a good haul it's best to keep him.

? Where is this coming from? No he doesn't literally seems to be the least adaptable star of all time.

I did a spittake after reading that. Where is this excessive leniency for Westbrook coming from? It's not like he has shown some extra gear that makes it worth doing so much just to get him above neutral impact.

[Mos_Heat]

Russ is 100% the biggest problem

[dcstanley]

Replacing Westbrook with Nunn outright could actually field a pretty decent rotation. The defense would still be a joke but Lebron and AD surrounded by any combo of Nunn, Monk, Reaves, THT, Melo has top ten offense potential. Would still get hammered by teams like GSW and PHX but I doubt they would be completely uncompetitive against every team above .500. Basically the difference between a play-in contender and a legitimate fourth or fifth seed.

[McBubbles]

Russ is 100% the biggest problem

I disagree. The biggest problem is that this roster is just ass. They're like 3 Starter caliber players on the entire team right now of which Westbrook is not one. Everyone else is a one way player with horrible defence, or a defensive player with horrible offence, and not in such a way that you can have both these players coexist together on the floor at the same time.

The 2nd biggest problem is Westbrook if you put Westbrook on the 2020 Squad they don't win the championship. He's not even "not as good as you'd hope", he's a straight negative. Besides helping boost Lebron's scoring numbers a bit, what does he actually do? It's not score impactfully, it's not rebounding impactfully, and it's DEFINITELY not defence. He's an extremely inefficient drive and kick passer, something which they already had in LeBron.

3rd biggest problem is Vogel being **** with his lineups.

[McBubbles]

I mean Lakers need to work with him to help him pick his spots better. He seems adaptable. More than people give him credit.
But yeah, he could kill a series if he gets in his head like this. Lakers are a good matchup for Nets. More concerned about West teams.

Don't see a Westbrook trade tbh. Horford+Smart is the very best they can get and I think that's worth doing, anything less and it's probably not worth doing. I also don't think he's the main problem (my analysis suggests Lakers small size and rebounding as biggest problems).

As I said, he's had the best +/- of the starters in 3 of the last 4 games since he stopped making TOs. His effort on disrupting rebounds and defense have picked up. I think he's more valuable to Lakers than other teams. Unless you can get a good haul it's best to keep him.

? Where is this coming from? No he doesn't literally seems to be the least adaptable star of all time.

I did a spittake after reading that. Where is this excessive leniency for Westbrook coming from? It's not like he has shown some extra gear that makes it worth doing so much just to get him above neutral impact.

Zimpy is a very optimistic poster in general. I don't think it's Westbrook specific.

[Mos_Heat]

Russ is 100% the biggest problem

I disagree. The biggest problem is that this roster is just ass. They're like 3 Starter caliber players on the entire team right now of which Westbrook is not one. Everyone else is a one way player with horrible defence, or a defensive player with horrible offence, and not in such a way that you can have both these players coexist together on the floor at the same time.

The 2nd biggest problem is Westbrook if you put Westbrook on the 2020 Squad they don't win the championship. He's not even "not as good as you'd hope", he's a straight negative. Besides helping boost Lebron's scoring numbers a bit, what does he actually do? It's not score impactfully, it's not rebounding impactfully, and it's DEFINITELY not defence. He's an extremely inefficient drive and kick passer, something which they already had in LeBron.

3rd biggest problem is Vogel being **** with his lineups.

You basically said that Westbrook is the biggest problem three times. He's the main reason why their roster looks the way it looks. He's also the guy who can't shoot from any distance so any lineup construction is almost an impossible task, especially with minimum guys

[LukaTheGOAT]

I'm convinced that Russ drinks some of his child's baby formula before games.

Westbrook has not changed any from the previous year, but yet he gets all the criticize not written the last year.

What people were expecting by Westbrook?

I am just having a good laugh. I would say he has performed around my expectations for him this year.