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Hawks Plan to Be Active at 2022 NBA Trade Deadline

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Which current Hawk players are likely to be moved at the trade deadline?

Poll ended at Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:30 am

Danilo Gallinari
16
48%
Cam Reddish
6
18%
Delon Wright
5
15%
De'Andre Hunter
3
9%
Bogdan Bogdanovic
2
6%
Jalen Johnson
1
3%
 
Total votes: 33

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Post#61 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:43 am

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“Everyone but Trae Young and Clint Capela are available,” one assistant general manager told Bleacher Report earlier this week before the Reddish trade. The Hawks had been looking to move Solomon Hill, out for the season with a hamstring tear, in order to open a roster spot.

There was also belief among rival front offices that the Hawks would be willing to part with De'Andre Hunter to bring a significant veteran contributor to Atlanta. The Young-Capela pick-and-roll is expected to be the foundation of the Hawks' attack for some time, so it's unlikely Hawks F John Collins will ever inherit the bigger offensive role he desires unless he gets a new home. If Atlanta can find a suitable deal, that outcome seems quite possible. “Travis is not going to be afraid to shake it up,” one general manager said.
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There was a Q&A on The Athletic were he clearly said he was not asking mainly for more shots but for a a more "defined role", which I understand. We saw the impact of the team depending on how many 3pts he takes, so that's a good point.


Problem is: what skill does he have to get a clearly defined role? He can only shoot threes if someone else creates a totally open shot for him, by pulling his defender off of him. He has zero post game. He's weak on the inside, got no handles and a very average passer.

The only thing he does at a very high level, besides hitting open threes, is jump. I think that the problem is that JC doesn't want to see his limitations and play a more defined role himself; as in an over-paid role player
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Post#62 » by Years90Suns » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:34 pm

I like our core.
I believe the reason for our poor play this year is not the roster, but the use of that roster and the lack of at least a second creator when Young is not on the court. More creators would be welcomed, as it is never too much to have two creative players together on the court.

I like Hunter and I believe we should keep him. I also like Collins and I believe he has a nice role. He can shoot from 3, he can run, attack the rim and play off Young. Also he is a good passer and provides Capela with good passes.

I do not see how we could improve the roster and I would not like to see a big change in the roster. It is impossible that what was so useful last year and got applauses from the rest of the league is so bad now.

Maybe a couple of minor moves or go full gas to get Simmons.
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Post#63 » by Spud2nique » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:45 pm

Years90Suns wrote:I like our core.
I believe the reason for our poor play this year is not the roster, but the use of that roster and the lack of at least a second creator when Young is not on the court. More creators would be welcomed, as it is never too much to have two creative players together on the court.

I like Hunter and I believe we should keep him. I also like Collins and I believe he has a nice role. He can shoot from 3, he can run, attack the rim and play off Young. Also he is a good passer and provides Capela with good passes.

I do not see how we could improve the roster and I would not like to see a big change in the roster. It is impossible that what was so useful last year and got applauses from the rest of the league is so bad now.

Maybe a couple of minor moves or go full gas to get Simmons.



First sentence and last sentence contradict. But I get it, confusing times. You want this, that and the other.
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Post#64 » by raleigh » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:27 pm

Does anyone here see Bogi as part of the "core?" I feel like he's the most obvious to move before August.
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Post#65 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:38 pm

raleigh wrote:Does anyone here see Bogi as part of the "core?" I feel like he's the most obvious to move before August.


I actually do like him as part of the main cast. He's a veteran player, he's close to Capela, he hit some big shots in post season, his size and foot speed make him a solid matchup at the 2/3 positions.

He isn't a perfect pairing in the backcourt, but I don't see him as a minus.

Last season he shot a whopping 43% from 3-pt range and was as big part of the season turnaround when Hunter and Reddish were injured.
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Post#66 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:40 pm

raleigh wrote:Does anyone here see Bogi as part of the "core?" I feel like he's the most obvious to move before August.

I don't think anybody does. When he signed that contract, I figured he'd be here 3 years max, thought we'd be trading him at the deadline next year or in the offseason when he had his 1 year player option left. My thinking was Huerter would be taking over his role. Huerter has just been so INCONSISTENT though. 1 great game, then pedestrian the next 5.
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Post#67 » by raleigh » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:46 pm

If you wait until right before his PO to trade him, you might have to pay someone to take him because you're dumping all of the uncertainty on the other team. If you're gonna trade him, you do it by this summer or not at all.

Jamaaliver, I think the concern is that the foot speed has been hampered by the injuries...permanently. Last season's 3pt% looks to be the anamoly, which is a big problem for Atlanta moving forward.

I do think there's a bit of "trade him now before it's too late" thing happening with Bogi. You can use this crapfest of a season as an excuse, too.
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Post#68 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:55 pm

raleigh wrote:If you wait until right before his PO to trade him, you might have to pay someone to take him because you're dumping all of the uncertainty on the other team. If you're gonna trade him, you do it by this summer or not at all.

Jamaaliver, I think the concern is that the foot speed has been hampered by the injuries...permanently. Last season's 3pt% looks to be the anamoly, which is a big problem for Atlanta moving forward.

I do think there's a bit of "trade him now before it's too late" thing happening with Bogi. You can use this crapfest of a season as an excuse, too.
not necessarily
It all depends on how he is playing and what we will be taking back.
His contract in that last year would be an expiring contract, so ideally you are looking for a team.thats looking to cut salary for future years that's less than Bigi's anually.
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Post#69 » by dms269 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:05 pm

I feel like poking Huerter and Bogi with a stick.
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Post#70 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:11 pm

He's had a rough season this year. Most Hawks have.

But when he's on next to Trae, we are nigh unbeatable.

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Post#71 » by raleigh » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:18 pm

jayu70 wrote:His contract in that last year would be an expiring contract


Are you referring to the last year if he opts in? If so, sure. But until he opts in, that player option is seen as a negative. (And the trade kicker doesn't help).

If he continues to decline, that player option favors him.
If he returns to last year's form, that player option favors him.
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Post#72 » by raleigh » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:23 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:But when he's on next to Trae, we are nigh unbeatable.


Were. Not are. Until Bogi proves othewise, last year was a fluke.

This season, Trae+Bogi rank behind the following Trae 2-man lineups:

Huerter
Collins
Capela
Dieng
Wright
Lou (!)
Gallo

I find it interesting that the best 5-man lineups that include Bogi have him playing the 3 next to Huerter. Kevin really is the glue.
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Post#73 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:25 pm

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jayu70 wrote:His contract in that last year would be an expiring contract


Are you referring to the last year if he opts in? If so, sure. But until he opts in, that player option is seen as a negative. (And the trade kicker doesn't help).

If he continues to decline, that player option favors him.
If he returns to last year's form, that player option favors him.

I'm always assuming an opt in. So he would still be an expiring contract for a team looking to cut future salary.
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Post#74 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:25 pm

dms269 wrote:I feel like poking Huerter and Bogi with a stick.

Just a poke? :lol:
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Post#75 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:27 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:He's had a rough season this year. Most Hawks have.

But when he's on next to Trae, we are nigh unbeatable.

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A healthy Bogi.....but he hasn't been. His decline on defense has been hard to watch, not just physically bit his awareness as well. Unfortunately his his offense has not been good enough to overcome his decline defense.
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Post#76 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:30 pm

I hear and acknowledge all of these very valid criticisms, but the narrative on the dude has changed too far in only a couple of months. Last season he was a steal, now he's a bum?

I blame health and coaching.

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Post#77 » by raleigh » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:32 pm

jayu70 wrote:I'm always assuming an opt in. So he would still be an expiring contract for a team looking to cut future salary.


Gotcha. Thanks. I agree that odds are HIGH that he will opt in.

Here's the problem: it's 1.5 years from now until he becomes that expiring contract. In the meantime, you have a mediocre team with real deficits and very little financial maneuverability.

While I do think Bogi can stay a positive player, he's noticeably older than the rest of the core. He's nearly two years older than Clint, who is nearly three years older than John.

This is why I think you move him sooner than later.
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Post#78 » by raleigh » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:33 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Last season he was a steal, now he's a bum?


That's not an accurate description of what others are saying.
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Post#79 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 16, 2022 5:55 pm

raleigh wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Last season he was a steal, now he's a bum?


That's not an accurate description of what others are saying.

Exactly. Just that his decline in shooting and especially defensively is very noticeable. And I do agree that the coaching has sucked.
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Post#80 » by Spud2nique » Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:54 am

I like brate but he’s super streaky like Gallo. Both are fire when hot and super cold when cold. It’s good and terrible.

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